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| Brexit on 11:38 - Nov 16 with 918 views | saint22 |
this problem all stems from the muppet Cameron giving an ill informed public the vote
simple as that, hence he did a runner
and as a result of them being ill informed and a large majority of them not very clever anyway we now have this mess | | | |
| Brexit on 11:45 - Nov 16 with 909 views | jordan_sibley |
Viola, game set and match. | |
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| Brexit on 11:48 - Nov 16 with 900 views | St_Guido |
Clinging on.....
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| Brexit on 12:42 - Nov 16 with 862 views | TheMoog |
The good old ‘Leavers are thick’ argument.
My vote was based on study going beyond ‘send ‘em all back’ and I’ve previously provided you with several reasons why leaving the EU is an opportunity to be exploited.
You really are a pathetic individual. | |
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| Brexit on 12:48 - Nov 16 with 853 views | saint22 |
Thats your opinion
Against mine
which is why we are in this mess
If it was a good idea to 'leave' surely it would have been a whole lot more straightforward no? | | | |
| Brexit on 12:56 - Nov 16 with 842 views | Cloudy |
It is straightforward. But the powers that be want you to believe it is a mess in the hope they get the chance to have a 2nd referendum and reverse the decision. Open your eyes man. | | | |
| Brexit on 13:05 - Nov 16 with 832 views | TheMoog |
Change of this magnitude is never going to be straightforward- it takes a bit of effort and relative short term pain to realise the long term benefits.
You stated your alternative solution was to have had a PM who would have simply overturned the decision. Undemocratic, needy and whiney. | |
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| Brexit on 13:06 - Nov 16 with 828 views | franniesTache |
Think it'll be more than short term pain before we see any benefits, even Reece Mogg said that it'd be bad for the economy for the first 10+ years | | | |
| Brexit on 13:07 - Nov 16 with 828 views | DorsetIan |
Who are the 'powers that be' that you are referring to? The most straightforward way to now leave and avoid a 2nd referendum is to vote for this deal. Who are the main people stopping that? | |
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| Brexit on 13:15 - Nov 16 with 821 views | TheMoog |
It’s all relative and a decade is not that long economically. 10 years is short term compared to being tied to the EU forever. | |
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| Brexit on 13:27 - Nov 16 with 814 views | saint22 |
Its clearly NOT straight forward is it, otherwise it would have been done and dusted by now
this is exactly why we are in this mess because 52% of the country thought it would be 'straightforward'
ffs
Plus we have a group of total imbeciles overseeing it | | | |
| Brexit on 13:36 - Nov 16 with 802 views | TheMoog |
How do you know the entire 52% thought it would be straightforward? | |
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| Brexit on 13:39 - Nov 16 with 796 views | franniesTache |
Oh in the grand scheme of things definitely, but in the real impact to people's lives 10 years is a f*cking long time | | | |
| Brexit on 13:39 - Nov 16 with 795 views | Heisenberg |
Go on then. How is is straightforward ? | |
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| Brexit on 13:54 - Nov 16 with 785 views | saint22 |
Why else would you vote to leave? | | | |
| Brexit on 14:03 - Nov 16 with 775 views | Heisenberg |
Not one of the Brexiteer Tories or the likes of Farage have ever come forward with any detailed proposals. All they do is either resign when they don't get there own way or criticise May for trying to negotiate a deal. I want to hear Boris and his ilk come up with something concrete. They can't of course because they know it will be ridiculed. | |
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| Brexit on 14:10 - Nov 16 with 769 views | Cloudy |
If we wanted to we could just walk away. But we won't. It is my belief and opinion that the government are deliberately making this look hard and bad for us so they have an excuse to stop it, U-Turn or have another referendum. We do not have to negotiate with them and pander to them. Ergo, it could be very straightforward. | | | |
| Brexit on 14:27 - Nov 16 with 761 views | DorsetIan |
You are right, we could stick two fingers up to the EU and, particularly, the Republic of Ireland. We could tell them all to f*** right off. But we're not currently at war with them, many of their citizens live here, many of ours live there. We trade and cooperate with the other countries in the EU every hour of every day. They are our friends.
If you really think that that would be an appropriate or reasonable approach, good luck to you, but don't tell me that 52% of the population agree with you, because they don't. | |
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| Brexit on 14:41 - Nov 16 with 751 views | Heisenberg |
So just walk away from the hundreds, if not thousands, of agreements that cover trade, security, medical research programmes, health cover, environmental protection, scientific research programmes, health and safety agreements on products, working together to protect child trafficking, agreements on data protection, criminal investigation including cyber crimes, legal agreements etc etc. These are a few examples of complex agreements made over the past 40 years. Anyone who thinks it's easy and we can just walk away is seriously deluded. That's why Johnson and others can't come up with any serious proposals. | |
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| Brexit on 14:46 - Nov 16 with 747 views | TheMoog |
I’ve already told you in some detail. If you choose to cover your eyes and ignore that it’s your own blinkered fault. | |
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| Brexit on 17:22 - Nov 16 with 674 views | DorsetIan |
Detailed but apparently glossing over the problems...
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/all-simple-solutions-to-the-post-brexit-irish-border-fail-t
...but I agree at least some kind of attempt at something concrete. Isn't the problem though that this was not published until September 2018 and it did not have to be tested in a real negotiation with the other side picking holes in it.
Got to assume that David Davies tried to advocate for such a solution (and if not why not) early doors (he was banging on about technical solutions and 'away from the border checks' from the beginning) but was unsuccessful. What reason to think that anyone else putting it forward would fare any better now? | |
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| Brexit on 18:43 - Nov 16 with 634 views | TheMoog |
Of course Davis advocated solutions such as these, both as Brexit Secretary and as a member of the ERG. But that is Jordan Sibley’s point in that the quisling remainers, led by May, have done everything possible to thwart those attempts at a proper Brexit. | |
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| Brexit on 19:00 - Nov 16 with 616 views | Leslie_Hughes |
Why did you vote to leave then.... | |
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| Brexit on 19:59 - Nov 16 with 595 views | TheMoog |
Because I’m racist obvs. | |
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