| Chair jailed for a year 13:00 - Feb 23 with 54380 views | DevonWhite |
According to The Sun. | | | |  |
| Chair jailed for a year on 15:54 - Feb 23 with 3302 views | connell10 |
But if Chair didn't do this why should he cough up? As stated we just don't know what happened. | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 15:56 - Feb 23 with 3268 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Chair's young wife has got bikini-clap.
I'm not going near him if he scores! | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 15:56 - Feb 23 with 3269 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Hodge of Colback sounds like a medieval squire. [Post edited 23 Feb 15:57]
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| Chair jailed for a year on 15:58 - Feb 23 with 3234 views | Phildo |
Another example of our decline. We used to have a fight with China. Now it’s just Belgium. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 15:59 - Feb 23 with 3173 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Bet Andorra are shitting themselves! | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 16:00 - Feb 23 with 3162 views | Northernr |
You know what I'd usually edit it, but I'll leave it, you deserve it.
Maybe an accusation like that which started the row? | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:00 - Feb 23 with 3144 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
This all sounds so weird and smells so fishy...
The Belgian press report talks about him going to court in person today 'for the verdict, with a new lawyer'.
Verdict? Verdict of what? Has there been a trial? If so, why hasn't Ilias been present? Wouldn't his lawyers have wanted to cross examine witnesses and examine Ilias himself? It doesn't sounds like there's been a trial... And if there has why would he turn up for the verdict with a brand new lawyer?
I have no idea what I'm talking about here but none of this adds up does it? How do criminal courts work in Belgium? A judge sits there, reads about the account from the tabloids and immediately dishes out a verdict?
I have a feeling somethings being lost in translation here. And as Clive says - there has only been one report - the ones from Nieuwsblad.be which has clearly been picked up by some scumbag from the Sun and then immediately re-broke via all the social news outlets. The translated original news report doesn't contain the word guilty, just that he's been 'sentenced'.
The whole clamber to decide whether we still love Ilias or hate him - and indeed any demand for QPR to speak up and divulge more is ridiculous. We know next to nothing here and what we do know has very little basis in normality.
I think we better just be patient until we know what the hell is going on. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:04 - Feb 23 with 3051 views | Northernr |
On the first point, as said above, the reports a month or so back in Belgium said there had been hearings which he'd failed to show for. Sounds like they didn't take it that seriously, then at the last hearing it got a bit serious so they've rocked up today with a new lawyer demanding the process gets repeated and the court hasn't liked it very much (which, to be fair, most courts wouldn't like that very much). | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:05 - Feb 23 with 2996 views | stantheman10 |
Am I missing something? Has Chair miraculously turned into Lionel Messi overnight?
Why wouldn't we be able to survive relegation without him? He's only one player who hasn't managed to single handedly win any games this season. He's hardly Taarabt is he! | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:08 - Feb 23 with 2905 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Difference is we'll all bogle if Ilias is acquitted. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:09 - Feb 23 with 2897 views | ted_hendrix |
I would Imagine that he had been Instructed to appear at today's proceedings, not just rock up so to speak.
These are after all bloody serious charges against him after all. | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 16:13 - Feb 23 with 2819 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
So what was his plea? Was he present to offer his plea?
Admittedly I have very little experience with criminal court proceedings but I have never heard of a trial whereby the defence doesn't pitch up to 'hearings', turns up to a verdict months later with a new lawyer, gets 'sentenced to prison' but then doesn't go to prison and nips back home in time for training as he's starting against Rotherham tomorrow.
I'm not arguing his innocence nor his guilt - It just all seems absolutely batsh*t to me.
If there had been a trial - a proper one - I'm pretty sure the British tabloids would have picked that up and reported all the gory details with no concern for the wellbeing of anyone involved. All we've had are these strange translated news articles suggesting something happened in France and now bizarrely there are criminal proceedings occurring in Belgium laced exclusively with broad accounts clearly from a prosecution point of view, almost as if the prosecutors themselves want it leaked to the press... Why could that possibly be I wonder?
Just all seems odd. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:15 - Feb 23 with 2786 views | saxbend |
If there's anything definitive the club will have to comment on it. So until they do, there's really not much point trying to guess what's going to happen. If Chair's not involved tomorrow, people might speculate, but even that could be explained by the whole affair negatively impacting his concentration and mental side of the game.
So far all we have is premature sensationalism from tabloids. There's no actual story yet, and probably won't be one for quite some time. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:17 - Feb 23 with 2749 views | traininvain |
You make it sound like we’re blessed with a squad of Messi’s! Chair’s done more than most of our squad to single-handedly win games over the past few years so yes it’s a worry if he’s not available for the rest of the season. [Post edited 23 Feb 16:19]
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| Chair jailed for a year on 16:18 - Feb 23 with 2735 views | Northernr |
"the club will have to comment on it"
Hmmmmm, new leadership seems pretty determined to test that. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:19 - Feb 23 with 2686 views | Ranger_Things |
We should stick him in the Ecuadorian embassy and sneak him out on match days until the end of the season. They can have him after. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:20 - Feb 23 with 2667 views | colinallcars |
Told the wife he'd been tried in absentia.
She said “ 'ere, I thought you said he'd been tried in Belgium .” | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:25 - Feb 23 with 2558 views | Benny_the_Ball |
The plot thickens.
This story has so many inconsistencies. A crime allegedly committed in France but tried in Belgium. The defendant is handed a prison sentence but is allowed to go free pending an appeal. Meanwhile, the club release a vague statement that the legal proceeding is yet to reach its conclusion.
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| Chair jailed for a year on 16:31 - Feb 23 with 2448 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
How do you know the alleged victim was in intensive care? | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:31 - Feb 23 with 2446 views | Juzzie |
"it doesn’t reflect well on Chair or the club if they’ve allowed it to reach this stage before taking it seriously." - genuine question but what's the club got to do with it?
If I was accused of bashing someone over the head and only took it seriously at the end I doubt my employers would be publicly involved to this extent. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:41 - Feb 23 with 2283 views | traininvain |
With all due respect I’m assuming you’re not potentially worth £4m/£5m to your employer but I might be wrong!
Chair’s a valuable asset to QPR and was the subject of a £4m/£5m bid only a few weeks ago. The club should’ve been all over this with very expensive lawyers on the case to ensure a prized asset doesn’t end up in prison so that he’s available to try and help us avoid relegation before being sold in the summer.
Perhaps the club has this well under control but the reports about Chair only turning up to court today with a newly appointed lawyer suggests otherwise. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:41 - Feb 23 with 2279 views | Stainrod |
That would have been a very reasonable point prior to his being convicted. Presumably all of these permutations would have been probed in court. No doubt Ilias's defence lawyer made the kind of argument you outline (he was provoked, or it was mistaken identity, whatever) but that was clearly rejected by the court. In the UK if someone is, for example, convicted of murder they are described as a "murderer". There is no reason as far as I'm aware to hold a Belgian court in less regard. Of course there are miscarriages of justice but until we hear a credible argument of that as part of some appeal its not unreasonable to take the court's verdict as fact. Just because the reporting of the case might be ropey on google translate it doesn't make the conviction itself unsafe. Agree there is no reason to say he should never play for the club again - after all, the supposed point of prison is to rehabilitate. But I don't think anyone can now argue its simply a matter of opinion what happened - he might be guilty, he might not - because a legal verdict has been delivered. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:44 - Feb 23 with 2239 views | Northernr |
But this is the thing, there hasn't been a trial like that, because he didn't show up to them.
That doesn't reflect well on him at all, like he just wasn't taking it seriously, but there hasn't been a trial with a prosecution and defence and testing of evidence like that. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:44 - Feb 23 with 2228 views | collegeranger |
the alleged attack took place in France but the prosecution is in Belgium! Mmmm is this a private prosecution? All seems a bit far fetched to me. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:48 - Feb 23 with 2156 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Maybe they've also added 'sentence lenghts' to the list of things they don't disclose the exact details of. | |
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