| Security 19:03 - Feb 7 with 9711 views | Walboro |
Well I agree to having good security but these lot are p£££ing me off when entering the main stand. Week after week they have checked some thing different. 1week I have to take my hat off and the next few matches never get checked. Then today they more or less did a strip search on me they are so inconsistent that I think I will turn up naked on Wednesday and see what they do then. |  | | |  |
| Security on 19:12 - Feb 7 with 3933 views | isitme |
It was really heavy handed today. I get going over with the scanner but some of the touching was over the top in my opinion. It was almost as if they were enjoying doing it! Shame they do not do anything about people vaping all game and then others smoking in the toilet.
One turnstile open at the end of the Pearl Street and then funnelled through the exit gate. It was so slow. Today was even worse than anything under Taurus. It was not like this against Boreham Wood and hoepfully wont be on Wednesday. |  | | |
| Security on 19:22 - Feb 7 with 3868 views | 442Dale |
| Security on 19:12 - Feb 7 by isitme |
It was really heavy handed today. I get going over with the scanner but some of the touching was over the top in my opinion. It was almost as if they were enjoying doing it! Shame they do not do anything about people vaping all game and then others smoking in the toilet.
One turnstile open at the end of the Pearl Street and then funnelled through the exit gate. It was so slow. Today was even worse than anything under Taurus. It was not like this against Boreham Wood and hoepfully wont be on Wednesday. |
Whether or not the checks were increased because of the chances of Carlisle fans getting in the home end we won’t know, but it was OTT today and there needs to be some consistency.
Can’t ever agree with the decision to limit their allocation today, irrespective of whatever circumstances surrounded our allocation at Carlisle. We’re better than that and it’s cost us money and goodwill, with the added potential impact on the searches today.
Fully appreciate others may disagree.
Oh, and why can’t the situation around having two exits available in the Sandy be sorted? Especially now a lot of our support has moved ends. |  |
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| Security on 19:23 - Feb 7 with 3862 views | D_Alien |
This was all flagged up before the game, via a Dale Trust email
Whilst i don't agree with it, we need to be sure who we're dealing with. The police presence was well over the top and i suspect they're heavily involved in the decision-making
Knowing it was going to be a bit more stringent made entry into the ground a case of "it's okay, we know you're just doing your job", same with the exit issues
What i really don't get though, is how a gate of 4000 (what was it btw?) requires so much messing about when Premier League games with x10 that number, and more, don't have those problems [Post edited 7 Feb 19:26]
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| Security on 19:26 - Feb 7 with 3836 views | isitme |
| Security on 19:23 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
This was all flagged up before the game, via a Dale Trust email
Whilst i don't agree with it, we need to be sure who we're dealing with. The police presence was well over the top and i suspect they're heavily involved in the decision-making
Knowing it was going to be a bit more stringent made entry into the ground a case of "it's okay, we know you're just doing your job", same with the exit issues
What i really don't get though, is how a gate of 4000 (what was it btw?) requires so much messing about when Premier League games with x10 that number, and more, don't have those problems [Post edited 7 Feb 19:26]
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You go to test match cricket and you are greated with a smile and they will have a look in your bag, which if you go frequently you already know what to expect so have it open to aid the flow of supporters. Today was so slow. | | | |
| Security on 19:38 - Feb 7 with 3765 views | D_Alien |
| Security on 19:26 - Feb 7 by isitme |
You go to test match cricket and you are greated with a smile and they will have a look in your bag, which if you go frequently you already know what to expect so have it open to aid the flow of supporters. Today was so slow. |
Tbf, the stewards at the Pearl St entrance (main stand side) did have a good attitude. They looked relatively young and inexperienced, went through a routine and were a bit apologetic about it. It's not their fault, but we do need to get to the bottom of this whole security lark when we get a gate above 3000
The club need to be upfront about this, and tell us exactly what conditions are being applied and why. If project 5000 is going to get anywhere at all, you don't want to be applying rules on entry and exit that just aren't being applied elsewhere [Post edited 7 Feb 19:40]
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| Security on 19:38 - Feb 7 with 3770 views | TVOS1907 |
| Security on 19:23 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
This was all flagged up before the game, via a Dale Trust email
Whilst i don't agree with it, we need to be sure who we're dealing with. The police presence was well over the top and i suspect they're heavily involved in the decision-making
Knowing it was going to be a bit more stringent made entry into the ground a case of "it's okay, we know you're just doing your job", same with the exit issues
What i really don't get though, is how a gate of 4000 (what was it btw?) requires so much messing about when Premier League games with x10 that number, and more, don't have those problems [Post edited 7 Feb 19:26]
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There's a forum on Thursday night, where I expect this issue will be raised by someone.
The number of old men they were searching in such a heavy handed way was ridiculous (present company excepted...), as was the number of young children.
Quite what is being achieved by making people turn round so they can also frisk your back is beyond me. What exactly do they expect the majority of us to have about our person that's going to cause problems?
There's a distinct lack of common sense involved, I'm afraid, and it's not the stewards displaying it, as they are only following orders. |  |
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| Security on 19:39 - Feb 7 with 3767 views | BigKindo |
| Security on 19:23 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
This was all flagged up before the game, via a Dale Trust email
Whilst i don't agree with it, we need to be sure who we're dealing with. The police presence was well over the top and i suspect they're heavily involved in the decision-making
Knowing it was going to be a bit more stringent made entry into the ground a case of "it's okay, we know you're just doing your job", same with the exit issues
What i really don't get though, is how a gate of 4000 (what was it btw?) requires so much messing about when Premier League games with x10 that number, and more, don't have those problems [Post edited 7 Feb 19:26]
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| Security on 19:39 - Feb 7 with 3766 views | isitme |
| Security on 19:38 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
Tbf, the stewards at the Pearl St entrance (main stand side) did have a good attitude. They looked relatively young and inexperienced, went through a routine and were a bit apologetic about it. It's not their fault, but we do need to get to the bottom of this whole security lark when we get a gate above 3000
The club need to be upfront about this, and tell us exactly what conditions are being applied and why. If project 5000 is going to get anywhere at all, you don't want to be applying rules on entry and exit that just aren't being applied elsewhere [Post edited 7 Feb 19:40]
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I had the misfortune to be the other side. I will walk down there next time. | | | |
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| Security on 19:40 - Feb 7 with 3766 views | TVOS1907 |
| Security on 19:26 - Feb 7 by isitme |
You go to test match cricket and you are greated with a smile and they will have a look in your bag, which if you go frequently you already know what to expect so have it open to aid the flow of supporters. Today was so slow. |
I got into the MCG quicker on Boxing Day than I did into Spotland today. There were almost 91,000 less fans at Spotland! | |
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| Security on 19:42 - Feb 7 with 3748 views | D_Alien |
| Security on 19:38 - Feb 7 by TVOS1907 |
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There's a forum on Thursday night, where I expect this issue will be raised by someone.
The number of old men they were searching in such a heavy handed way was ridiculous (present company excepted...), as was the number of young children.
Quite what is being achieved by making people turn round so they can also frisk your back is beyond me. What exactly do they expect the majority of us to have about our person that's going to cause problems?
There's a distinct lack of common sense involved, I'm afraid, and it's not the stewards displaying it, as they are only following orders. |
Questions do need to be asked, Can't be there or i'd have taken this up | |
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| Security on 20:08 - Feb 7 with 3670 views | R17ALE |
The stewards on the Pearl Street/Willbutts corner were well out of order today. As I queued up to be searched one walked up to me demanding I unzipped my jacket. I refused and he told me with some aggression if I didn't I wouldn't be seeing the game. On another day, talking like that to a different person, he might have been deservedly thumped.
The club pay these muppets so they should call the tune. Their behaviour won't put me off going, but if I was a casual fan spending £22 to get in and be treated with such aggression and threats on entry, I wouldn't bother going again.
The club should have a strong word with their bosses. |  |
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| Security on 20:15 - Feb 7 with 3624 views | onedalefan |
Who's bright idea was it to make everyone in the Pearl St have to go out one way? Surely blocking off the 2 passageways where you could normally go out was a safety risk. |  | | |
| Security on 21:38 - Feb 7 with 3454 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Security on 20:15 - Feb 7 by onedalefan |
Who's bright idea was it to make everyone in the Pearl St have to go out one way? Surely blocking off the 2 passageways where you could normally go out was a safety risk. |
Madness…
3 exits funnelled into 1 - to still make your way to the club shop corner… these are decisions for decisions sake they make zero sense.
On arrival you would have thought it was United v City…
I agree it feels like a power trip and it’s totaly unecessary.
Fookin idiots. | | | |
| Security on 21:56 - Feb 7 with 3402 views | Dalenet |
It is sad that we need this thread on a day when we have had a good win against a promotion rival and amassed 70 points. But it is needed
We seem to have lost any sense of what it means to be fan focussed in recent months. The stewards were like this at the Truro game and it took 3 minutes for a steward to search 3 people. Today was worse. Waving a wand is fine. A pat down is just about tolerable. But being asked to take garments off and being frisked quite aggressively is not on. We had about 700 extra home fans today - will they be prepared to come back and put up with the queues and the farce? Where is the Risk Assessment that deems it is necessary. I have been a fan in the main stand for 30 years and can't remember a single incidence of anybody using weapons or pyrotechnics in that stand. Most of the fans in there are retired. They were searching 80 year old men today FFS. The pretence that we were looking for Carlisle fans is utter tosh. Strip searching without a single word being spoken, or asking to see my season ticket, will never identify me as Dale fan or an away fan. The club MUST now publish the Risk Assessment that shows that this level of security is needed for Spotland. The Risk Assessment has to be displayed somewhere in the stadium in any case. And if this fixture was deemed so high risk, why were there a reduced number of stewards in the main stand? | | | |
| Security on 22:04 - Feb 7 with 3377 views | onedalefan |
Did anyone see the assault by a steward on the fan in front of the Pearl St after the final whistle. While the fan shouldn't have been on the pitch, to run at him from about 20 yards away and smash into his legs, was totally out of order. | | | |
| Security on 00:29 - Feb 8 with 3194 views | _Windydale |
Ridiculous and over the top. Queueing up for the main stand, there was an old guy in front with a flat cap, who was told to remove it. Maybe to see if he had any pyrotechnics, planning a blue smoke Dale celebration. His wife was searched, she was taking her coat off, hand had a bag of wool for crocheting. I was having to unzip my coat and spin round for a back check. WTF. | | | |
| Security on 00:38 - Feb 8 with 3184 views | boroblue |
| Security on 21:38 - Feb 7 by Dale_4_Life |
Madness…
3 exits funnelled into 1 - to still make your way to the club shop corner… these are decisions for decisions sake they make zero sense.
On arrival you would have thought it was United v City…
I agree it feels like a power trip and it’s totaly unecessary.
Fookin idiots. |
Exactly this.
Instead of it taking 5 minutes to clear everyone from the "flashpoint" corner of Pearl Street and Willbuts lane by opening the usual gates, it took 15 minutes instead by everyone trampling all over each other to get out of the one open gate at the other end then walking back that way anyway! I'd love to know the logic behind that stupendous decision.
I'm not too ar5ed about being frisked, bit unnecessary but no big deal. I'm more annoyed about the fact I didn't get home till nearly 6.00 because of the exit fiasco and then more ba5tard roadworks (which also caused me to miss the to55ing kick off!) [Post edited 8 Feb 0:40]
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| Security on 00:43 - Feb 8 with 3167 views | boroblue |
| Security on 00:38 - Feb 8 by boroblue |
Exactly this.
Instead of it taking 5 minutes to clear everyone from the "flashpoint" corner of Pearl Street and Willbuts lane by opening the usual gates, it took 15 minutes instead by everyone trampling all over each other to get out of the one open gate at the other end then walking back that way anyway! I'd love to know the logic behind that stupendous decision.
I'm not too ar5ed about being frisked, bit unnecessary but no big deal. I'm more annoyed about the fact I didn't get home till nearly 6.00 because of the exit fiasco and then more ba5tard roadworks (which also caused me to miss the to55ing kick off!) [Post edited 8 Feb 0:40]
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And while we're at it - those stupid unnecessary bollards near the club shop are just asking for someone to sue the club. Another poor bloke with blood all over his face last week cos he fell over one. Pitch black there with hundreds of people walking by them and not a chance to avoid them unless you know they're there. | | | |
| Security on 08:58 - Feb 8 with 2940 views | D_Alien |
This issue really does need to be addressed in terms of Project 5000
This is a stated ambition by the club. The numbers yesterday showed what it might look like every game, if we were to get there, including regular large away followings
Yesterday doesn't put the club in the best light, either from the treatment of fans or restrictions on numbers, and our owners - who're doing a fantastic job - need to be aware of the pitfalls. These measures can't continue.
I've said this before, but watching MOTD it's clear that some very large away followings are separated from home support by just a gangway with a line of stewards, without apparent incident. The club need to take advice on how to take this forward, as we progress on the pitch [Post edited 8 Feb 9:01]
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| Security on 09:32 - Feb 8 with 2875 views | Dale_4_Life |
Just apply some common sense and if there is any need … act with a severe consequence and issue bans.
Trying to big brother all 3000 fans when 99.9% have zero interest in pyro or trouble is causing a lot of supporter angst and disengagement. We are the customers FFs.
Asking an 80 year old with 60 years of Dale support under his belt to remove his flat cap quite frankly is disgusting and disrespectful.
I would urge the club to get a grip of these power trip stewards with immediate effect…. Starting on Wednesday. I mean a complete reversal and a smile and a welcome and an enjoy the game sir attitude. | | | |
| Security on 10:16 - Feb 8 with 2782 views | 49thseason |
| Security on 00:38 - Feb 8 by boroblue |
Exactly this.
Instead of it taking 5 minutes to clear everyone from the "flashpoint" corner of Pearl Street and Willbuts lane by opening the usual gates, it took 15 minutes instead by everyone trampling all over each other to get out of the one open gate at the other end then walking back that way anyway! I'd love to know the logic behind that stupendous decision.
I'm not too ar5ed about being frisked, bit unnecessary but no big deal. I'm more annoyed about the fact I didn't get home till nearly 6.00 because of the exit fiasco and then more ba5tard roadworks (which also caused me to miss the to55ing kick off!) [Post edited 8 Feb 0:40]
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The roadworks situation has become ridiculous, just about every major artery has been affected, the works on Manchester Road are taking longer than building the pyramids ... We were told they would be finished for when the kids went back to school after the summer holidays..to be fair, noone mentioned which year...the knock-on effect is that Roch Valley Way and the new lights by the Cemetery are rammed . And all for a cycle path which I have yet to see what you might describe as a commuter using... £15m quid down the drains... and many months if not years of disruption...the amounts of CO2 from 1000s of cars stuck in traffic will never be mitigated by 2 blokes cycling to Manchester on an occasional fine day assuming that was ever the plan.... BTW beware the lights at the Cem...I nearly got rammed last week when a van decided that going straight on from the left turn lane coming up from Sudden was a really good idea...
In other news getting into the Sandy Lane End was relatively uneventful... |  | | |
| Security on 10:47 - Feb 8 with 2693 views | TVOS1907 |
| Security on 10:16 - Feb 8 by 49thseason |
The roadworks situation has become ridiculous, just about every major artery has been affected, the works on Manchester Road are taking longer than building the pyramids ... We were told they would be finished for when the kids went back to school after the summer holidays..to be fair, noone mentioned which year...the knock-on effect is that Roch Valley Way and the new lights by the Cemetery are rammed . And all for a cycle path which I have yet to see what you might describe as a commuter using... £15m quid down the drains... and many months if not years of disruption...the amounts of CO2 from 1000s of cars stuck in traffic will never be mitigated by 2 blokes cycling to Manchester on an occasional fine day assuming that was ever the plan.... BTW beware the lights at the Cem...I nearly got rammed last week when a van decided that going straight on from the left turn lane coming up from Sudden was a really good idea...
In other news getting into the Sandy Lane End was relatively uneventful... |
Anyway, back on topic... as a CAB rep, I think this is an issue you could/should raise at a subsequent meeting. | |
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| Security on 11:12 - Feb 8 with 2644 views | Dale_4_Life |
The Cem Junction is an accident in waiting….
The amount of cars who ignore the left only turn lane and go straight over to Sandy lane is mind boggling…. There are near misses every day!
Some clearer left turn only signage is required possibly paint the road in a clear colour showing the left turn.. | | | |
| Security on 11:21 - Feb 8 with 2625 views | judd |
| Security on 11:12 - Feb 8 by Dale_4_Life |
The Cem Junction is an accident in waiting….
The amount of cars who ignore the left only turn lane and go straight over to Sandy lane is mind boggling…. There are near misses every day!
Some clearer left turn only signage is required possibly paint the road in a clear colour showing the left turn.. |
Supporters coach did that on the way back from a game earlier this season. Could have been horrendous. |  |
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| Security on 11:44 - Feb 8 with 2567 views | Dale_4_Life |
Let’s not derail the point of this thread with the horrendous Cem junction… (to be fair it would work if drivers followed the rules)
As many supporters (customers!!) comments on here the better for the club to have a rethink and take some action with our delightful stewards. | | | |
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