| Three-game weeks 10:59 - Jan 25 with 5425 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
One of the reasons Nourry supposedly appointed Stephan was his ability to manage the dreaded three-game weeks.
I included the Plymouth week even though it wasn't a league game and Stephan was told who to play but it's not great, is it? We average just over three points from three-game weeks.
Preston/Plymouth/Watford 1 point*
Sheffield Wed/Oxford/Bristol City 5 points
Millwall/Swansea/Derby 3 points
Ipswich/Southampton/Sheffield United 1 point
Hull/Blackburn/Norwich 6 points
WBA/Birmingham/Boro 6 points
Portsmouth/WBA/Norwich 1 point
Stoke/Oxford/Wrexham 2 points
Average: 3.125 points
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| Three-game weeks on 20:52 - Jan 26 with 1172 views | Hunterhoop |
| Three-game weeks on 18:44 - Jan 26 by kensalriser |
Is the three game week* metric for managerial appointments based on something someone from the club has stated, or has it just been inferred or imagined?
*Saturday-midweek-Saturday is actually a week plus two hours assuming same time kick-offs for the Saturday games. [Post edited 26 Jan 18:46]
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Pretty sure our CEO referenced this “3 game week criteria” regards the head coach search after we hired Stephan. |  | | |
| Three-game weeks on 21:23 - Jan 26 with 1096 views | 7374Ranger |
| Three-game weeks on 18:52 - Jan 26 by FDC |
Ben Williams is conditioning them to be at their peak for the end of the three game week - which is Friday. By Saturday they're fúcked. |
He is conditioning the squad to be fully fit for the final leg if the season i.e. After the Easter weekend. That's 4 games when they will be facing Bristol City Millwall Derby and finally Ipswich.
Here's hoping QPR do not desperately need the points from these games, because we have a deal with Bristol City, that the games should end in away wins! Usually crap at Millwall. Derby could go either way and Ipswich will probably need the points for a promotion place.
P.s. Saturday's loss has drained my confidence, a bit like Mane's stoppage time winner for Southampton in Ramsay's 1st match in charge after Redknapp resigned. | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 08:03 - Jan 27 with 928 views | mart_Goblin |
| Three-game weeks on 11:24 - Jan 25 by GaryBannister86 |
This obsession with three-game weeks is another of our negative mentality narratives that drive me bonkers. Sometimes I wonder why we bother, as a club, ever entering the league and two cups seeing that we always seem to find competitive matches a bit of a bind and a hassle.
Are they three game weeks that must be carefully managed, or are they an opportunity to win three football matches in a row and fly up the table?
Are they a fitness team that are there to protect the players from getting injured or are they a fitness team who are there to get as many players out on the park and as fit as possible for the manager?
Is the league cup our best chance to win a trophy or a chance to rest our amazingly high-achieving superstars after ooh, 1 week of the season? Same with the FA Cup, unless you've got 9,000 away fans potentially breathing down your neck.
Festive period and a load of games? A chance to move forward or to phone in away games at poor sides like WBA just so that we can play even more poorly in the next home game?
I detested Ainsworth's small-club, privilege-to-be-on-the-same-park mentality as I thought it spread a small-time belief throughout the club. I think a major part of the reason Marti was so popular was that he was generally positive, for example publicly often stating he was never happy with a draw, and usually pushed a far more positive mindset.
I don't think many fans demand that much - just some ambition, some high standards throughout the club. It can be done. Things like the injury time debacle yesterday - we've often played for an hour against 10 men without ever looking like scoring. An opposition with a strong mentality sees it as a chance to up their game, come together, thou-shalt-not pass. Do we?
I want (ho ho) the owners to grab this club by the scruff of its neck; to say look, the potential is huge. We sell out home and away despite being served up some bang average tripe on a regular basis for so many years now. We are building a stronger squad. We've worked out that gambling on Burrell-types is far better than previous transfer tactics (although I fear Saito and possibly Edwards could be regressing to the mean) - and we are not just buying these players to potentially improve our FFP, or just make a profit in a year's time. We're building a squad and a team and a club that is going to make a serious aim for promotion and returning to be a regular Premier League side, like all of our near neighbours.
Or we can just drift, tinker around, bitch and moan about the number of games and injuries, give inexperienced / chancers the keys to the controls and go round in circles. We love going round in circles. How many seasons now have we been about building a more open, possession based playing style around exciting youngsters? And how many seasons does it take only a few months to go running back to stalwarts like Steve Cook that we've arrogantly derided in press releases and then saying "oops, now we realise all teams need players like you"?
Do we have management who can look at the ever-deteriorating Loftus Road situation, with a capacity that seems to reduce every season, that sells out even when we are toilet, and say right - we sort out a temporary fix quickly, like more standing, making the whole Loft standing, properly improving facilities and catering, or do we have management that implies you can either have a Kone signing or actually be able to get served a decent pint at 2:30 on a Saturday afternoon?
Round and round and round we go. Ah - but next season, we are always about next season. I will check back in next season with our management and see just how that goes. |
Might well be a nominee for post of the season .
Just touching on 3 game weeks , of which the narrative really boils my p*ss as it’s being discussed openly by coaching staff and players like it’s something new and unheard of .
However , I was reliably informed that our fixture list is taken from a template every season . If you look there are so many repetitions and ‘coincidences’ to the previous season or seasons it makes perfect sense.
So don’t expect any change in the ‘away from home twice in a 2 game week’ scenarios anytime soon. |  | | |
| Three-game weeks on 09:24 - Jan 27 with 844 views | Northernr |
| Three-game weeks on 08:03 - Jan 27 by mart_Goblin |
Might well be a nominee for post of the season .
Just touching on 3 game weeks , of which the narrative really boils my p*ss as it’s being discussed openly by coaching staff and players like it’s something new and unheard of .
However , I was reliably informed that our fixture list is taken from a template every season . If you look there are so many repetitions and ‘coincidences’ to the previous season or seasons it makes perfect sense.
So don’t expect any change in the ‘away from home twice in a 2 game week’ scenarios anytime soon. |
We've got more double aways than most this season, and more long distance double aways as well, but it's not new. We've had Plymouth-Hull Saturday-Tuesday weeks in each of the last two seasons, now we've got Hull-Southampton.
And it's not going to change either. Nor is the Christmas period. So, what are you doing about it...?
I swear if they sit at the next fans forum and talk about "the narrative" around our fitness and injuries when "actually the data shows..." I'm going to burst into tears. |  | | |
| Three-game weeks on 09:43 - Jan 27 with 796 views | TheChef |
| Three-game weeks on 20:52 - Jan 26 by Hunterhoop |
Pretty sure our CEO referenced this “3 game week criteria” regards the head coach search after we hired Stephan. |
Hmmm OK, but I don't recall at any point Stephan being hired because of his experience handling three game weeks; not even sure if they have three game weeks in the French league?
End of the day, the competition is all about winning as many matches as possible! And you deal with the schedule in the best possible way - I assume that's what staff at the club are paid for. |  |
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| Three-game weeks on 09:46 - Jan 27 with 794 views | mart_Goblin |
| Three-game weeks on 09:43 - Jan 27 by TheChef |
Hmmm OK, but I don't recall at any point Stephan being hired because of his experience handling three game weeks; not even sure if they have three game weeks in the French league?
End of the day, the competition is all about winning as many matches as possible! And you deal with the schedule in the best possible way - I assume that's what staff at the club are paid for. |
Rennes played in Europa league | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 09:51 - Jan 27 with 774 views | TheChef |
| Three-game weeks on 09:46 - Jan 27 by mart_Goblin |
Rennes played in Europa league |
OK but that's not a season in, season out thing.
Just like Cifuentes, Stephan is learning as he goes along (not helped by the poor player conditioning). | |
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| Three-game weeks on 09:58 - Jan 27 with 757 views | terryb |
| Three-game weeks on 09:43 - Jan 27 by TheChef |
Hmmm OK, but I don't recall at any point Stephan being hired because of his experience handling three game weeks; not even sure if they have three game weeks in the French league?
End of the day, the competition is all about winning as many matches as possible! And you deal with the schedule in the best possible way - I assume that's what staff at the club are paid for. |
Nourry certainly mentioned this at the fans forum & stated that we didn't rotate the players enough, but that will be rectified this season. | | | |
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| Three-game weeks on 10:14 - Jan 27 with 727 views | TheChef |
| Three-game weeks on 09:58 - Jan 27 by terryb |
Nourry certainly mentioned this at the fans forum & stated that we didn't rotate the players enough, but that will be rectified this season. |
Hmmm OK.
Although for me Nourry + fans forum = Jackanory. | |
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| Three-game weeks on 10:19 - Jan 27 with 712 views | mart_Goblin |
| Three-game weeks on 09:51 - Jan 27 by TheChef |
OK but that's not a season in, season out thing.
Just like Cifuentes, Stephan is learning as he goes along (not helped by the poor player conditioning). |
Yes agreed.
Only saying what the narrative and the discussions were around the fans forum .
The fact it’s even an issue really just annoys me.
It’s part of every season. We know in August the diary.
We know they have to be fit and they are clearly not .
As a squad we embarrassingly under cooked in prolonged fitness and that played a part in the mental collapse of our most senior players, never mind the younger ones on Saturday .
The fact it’s nearly February and but for a couple of exceptions (Birmingham perhaps) , we still look not up to full fitness is incredible and nothing short of a disgrace really.
I think everyone involved in that side of things be it , Head coach , the fitness and data bods…all of them , Williams and even some of the players have to take a long hard look at themselves .
As an example , I like Kolli a lot and I know he’s been mucked around more than most this season, so getting ‘match’ fit has been a problem .
But if I have to see him stretching his calves and hamstrings out after half an hour of being on the pitch, one more time I think I might scream .
He’s another that’s injured way too often for a young player .
Strengthen these kids up and get them prepared for 46 games ffs | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 11:08 - Jan 27 with 632 views | francisbowles |
| Three-game weeks on 18:37 - Jan 26 by Beejnewark |
Said it before.. Saturday, Tuesday, Friday = 3 game week
Saturday, Tuesday
Saturday, Wednesday
2 game weeks.. |
I've said it before it's three games in a week or three games in a week + or - 2 hours.
Half time on Saturday to half time on the following Saturday is a week.
Kick off on Saturday to Full time on Saturday is a week + approximately 2 hours.
Full time on Saturday to Kick off on Saturday is a week - 2 hours.
So if you've got on match in-between it's a three game week. To argue otherwise is just quibbling over semantics.
However you address, it we have a major problem with them and we are not getting equitable treatment with the home and away split. We need to do lots to address this.
The CEO and Chairman should be haranguing the football league for fairer fixtures in the three game weeks. Longer term they should be liaising with all the clubs re the Christmas period.
The players stamina and fitness needs improving drastically. The whole training, conditioning and medical regimes need a complete overhaul. The only suggestion I can make is a longer pre season, a more gradual getting up to the levels required by the first match and hopefully less stress injuries.
The mentality needs addressing and not just for three game weeks. Sports psychology, whatever we are doing isn't working. The whole club, board, manager/coaching staff, stadium and pitch management and players need a course in positive mental attitude. They could learn lessons from the parts of the club that have improved over time and now work well e.g. the box office, possibly merchandising, the planning and implementation of the training centre.
Christian Noury has taken over a tough task and has so far tackled it with some successes and some failures, which Clive has highlighted on a number of occasions.
He now needs to step it up and show some rapid improvement in these failing areas.
We can't afford to keep doing the same thing | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 11:17 - Jan 27 with 618 views | rangersroar |
| Three-game weeks on 11:24 - Jan 25 by GaryBannister86 |
This obsession with three-game weeks is another of our negative mentality narratives that drive me bonkers. Sometimes I wonder why we bother, as a club, ever entering the league and two cups seeing that we always seem to find competitive matches a bit of a bind and a hassle.
Are they three game weeks that must be carefully managed, or are they an opportunity to win three football matches in a row and fly up the table?
Are they a fitness team that are there to protect the players from getting injured or are they a fitness team who are there to get as many players out on the park and as fit as possible for the manager?
Is the league cup our best chance to win a trophy or a chance to rest our amazingly high-achieving superstars after ooh, 1 week of the season? Same with the FA Cup, unless you've got 9,000 away fans potentially breathing down your neck.
Festive period and a load of games? A chance to move forward or to phone in away games at poor sides like WBA just so that we can play even more poorly in the next home game?
I detested Ainsworth's small-club, privilege-to-be-on-the-same-park mentality as I thought it spread a small-time belief throughout the club. I think a major part of the reason Marti was so popular was that he was generally positive, for example publicly often stating he was never happy with a draw, and usually pushed a far more positive mindset.
I don't think many fans demand that much - just some ambition, some high standards throughout the club. It can be done. Things like the injury time debacle yesterday - we've often played for an hour against 10 men without ever looking like scoring. An opposition with a strong mentality sees it as a chance to up their game, come together, thou-shalt-not pass. Do we?
I want (ho ho) the owners to grab this club by the scruff of its neck; to say look, the potential is huge. We sell out home and away despite being served up some bang average tripe on a regular basis for so many years now. We are building a stronger squad. We've worked out that gambling on Burrell-types is far better than previous transfer tactics (although I fear Saito and possibly Edwards could be regressing to the mean) - and we are not just buying these players to potentially improve our FFP, or just make a profit in a year's time. We're building a squad and a team and a club that is going to make a serious aim for promotion and returning to be a regular Premier League side, like all of our near neighbours.
Or we can just drift, tinker around, bitch and moan about the number of games and injuries, give inexperienced / chancers the keys to the controls and go round in circles. We love going round in circles. How many seasons now have we been about building a more open, possession based playing style around exciting youngsters? And how many seasons does it take only a few months to go running back to stalwarts like Steve Cook that we've arrogantly derided in press releases and then saying "oops, now we realise all teams need players like you"?
Do we have management who can look at the ever-deteriorating Loftus Road situation, with a capacity that seems to reduce every season, that sells out even when we are toilet, and say right - we sort out a temporary fix quickly, like more standing, making the whole Loft standing, properly improving facilities and catering, or do we have management that implies you can either have a Kone signing or actually be able to get served a decent pint at 2:30 on a Saturday afternoon?
Round and round and round we go. Ah - but next season, we are always about next season. I will check back in next season with our management and see just how that goes. |
Totally agree with the 3 game week comments. There have been 3 game weeks for years and years, it never used to be a problem, now we are running scared incase someone gets injured, we are telling the players that they are not up to it, It is just so negative. This sort of thinking just gets into a players head, if you say something enough times people start to beleive it, so they under perform for fear of getting injured. I wonder if other clubs have this negative attitude ?
Remember, there was a time when you could only make one substitution ! [Post edited 27 Jan 11:43]
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| Three-game weeks on 11:25 - Jan 27 with 587 views | wombat |
| Three-game weeks on 10:14 - Jan 27 by TheChef |
Hmmm OK.
Although for me Nourry + fans forum = Jackanory. |
whys it jackanory ? it was one of the things he mentioned and was also brought up duriong the long drawn out affair of finding a reason to remove our last coach think the term he used was we didnt rotate the swuad for the 3 game weeks , at the time we had very few options to allow us to rotate the squad . |  |
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| Three-game weeks on 11:32 - Jan 27 with 570 views | TheChef |
| Three-game weeks on 11:25 - Jan 27 by wombat |
whys it jackanory ? it was one of the things he mentioned and was also brought up duriong the long drawn out affair of finding a reason to remove our last coach think the term he used was we didnt rotate the swuad for the 3 game weeks , at the time we had very few options to allow us to rotate the squad . |
Just I feel at the forums he tends to say what the fans want to hear (or disregards the more difficult topics). Just my opinion. | |
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| Three-game weeks on 16:06 - Jan 27 with 471 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
| Three-game weeks on 09:24 - Jan 27 by Northernr |
We've got more double aways than most this season, and more long distance double aways as well, but it's not new. We've had Plymouth-Hull Saturday-Tuesday weeks in each of the last two seasons, now we've got Hull-Southampton.
And it's not going to change either. Nor is the Christmas period. So, what are you doing about it...?
I swear if they sit at the next fans forum and talk about "the narrative" around our fitness and injuries when "actually the data shows..." I'm going to burst into tears. |
So what statistical evidence is there that our fitness and injury record is any worse than other Championship clubs?
I don’t mean anecdotes or feelings in the bowels. I mean hard evidence? | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 16:39 - Jan 27 with 440 views | Northernr |
| Three-game weeks on 16:06 - Jan 27 by Spaghetti_Hoops |
So what statistical evidence is there that our fitness and injury record is any worse than other Championship clubs?
I don’t mean anecdotes or feelings in the bowels. I mean hard evidence? |
It's irrelevant.
If Ipswich get nine or ten players injured they'll cope with that a lot better than Oxford will do. Likewise Southampton v Sheff Wed.
If you run your finger down the list of the division and say "well everybody is missing nine players this week" it might make you feel better, but it doesn't solve our problem.
When you're a) operating on a budget like ours and b) hanging your whole reason for being on developing players to sell, you can't afford them sitting in the stand.
We were a win or two off the play-offs this time last year after we beat Blackburn, and fell apart from there because of player availability.
Once again this year we've played our way to within three points of the play-offs, and are now risking falling away because of player availability.
Rumarn Burrell was already on ten goals, if he'd stayed fit it's reasonable to assume he'd have got to 15-16 minimum, at which point you could probably have flipped him straight away this summer for quite good money to a Middlesbrough/Birmingham type. Instead he's now injured, at the end of a period when his form had declined and he was obviously tiring.
The key to being better next year is coping better with this period of games. What shall we do differently to make sure it doesn't happen? And if it's happening to everybody, rather than use that as an excuse let's ask what do we do differently to give ourselves a competitive advantage? | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 17:11 - Jan 27 with 398 views | KensalT |
| Three-game weeks on 16:39 - Jan 27 by Northernr |
It's irrelevant.
If Ipswich get nine or ten players injured they'll cope with that a lot better than Oxford will do. Likewise Southampton v Sheff Wed.
If you run your finger down the list of the division and say "well everybody is missing nine players this week" it might make you feel better, but it doesn't solve our problem.
When you're a) operating on a budget like ours and b) hanging your whole reason for being on developing players to sell, you can't afford them sitting in the stand.
We were a win or two off the play-offs this time last year after we beat Blackburn, and fell apart from there because of player availability.
Once again this year we've played our way to within three points of the play-offs, and are now risking falling away because of player availability.
Rumarn Burrell was already on ten goals, if he'd stayed fit it's reasonable to assume he'd have got to 15-16 minimum, at which point you could probably have flipped him straight away this summer for quite good money to a Middlesbrough/Birmingham type. Instead he's now injured, at the end of a period when his form had declined and he was obviously tiring.
The key to being better next year is coping better with this period of games. What shall we do differently to make sure it doesn't happen? And if it's happening to everybody, rather than use that as an excuse let's ask what do we do differently to give ourselves a competitive advantage? |
Where is the PFA in all of this?
They're supposed to be looking after the welfare of the players and if necessary campaigning on their behalf.
Four games over the Christmas period can't be good for the players and makes a mockery of what is supposed to be competitive sport.
There's also the argument some have made that switching to five substitutes has increased the intensity of games, placed greater pressure on those outfield players who play the full ninety minutes, and in turn led to a glut of injuries.
Sports scientists have been saying for years that soft tissue injuries are wholly preventable, but the data shows that these injuries are on the increase all across the game.
So when will the PFA sit up and take notice? | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 19:41 - Jan 27 with 315 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
| Three-game weeks on 16:39 - Jan 27 by Northernr |
It's irrelevant.
If Ipswich get nine or ten players injured they'll cope with that a lot better than Oxford will do. Likewise Southampton v Sheff Wed.
If you run your finger down the list of the division and say "well everybody is missing nine players this week" it might make you feel better, but it doesn't solve our problem.
When you're a) operating on a budget like ours and b) hanging your whole reason for being on developing players to sell, you can't afford them sitting in the stand.
We were a win or two off the play-offs this time last year after we beat Blackburn, and fell apart from there because of player availability.
Once again this year we've played our way to within three points of the play-offs, and are now risking falling away because of player availability.
Rumarn Burrell was already on ten goals, if he'd stayed fit it's reasonable to assume he'd have got to 15-16 minimum, at which point you could probably have flipped him straight away this summer for quite good money to a Middlesbrough/Birmingham type. Instead he's now injured, at the end of a period when his form had declined and he was obviously tiring.
The key to being better next year is coping better with this period of games. What shall we do differently to make sure it doesn't happen? And if it's happening to everybody, rather than use that as an excuse let's ask what do we do differently to give ourselves a competitive advantage? |
Injuries come with football. With the best conditioning, physical specimens, and medical support money can buy Arsenal had already had 27 players out with injuries by around this time last season. The average for the Premier League up to 25 games through the 2024/25 season was 15. | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 19:51 - Jan 27 with 300 views | Northernr |
| Three-game weeks on 19:41 - Jan 27 by Spaghetti_Hoops |
Injuries come with football. With the best conditioning, physical specimens, and medical support money can buy Arsenal had already had 27 players out with injuries by around this time last season. The average for the Premier League up to 25 games through the 2024/25 season was 15. |
So just throw our hands up and say that this time every year we’ll be missing half our squad? | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 20:04 - Jan 27 with 260 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Three-game weeks on 16:39 - Jan 27 by Northernr |
It's irrelevant.
If Ipswich get nine or ten players injured they'll cope with that a lot better than Oxford will do. Likewise Southampton v Sheff Wed.
If you run your finger down the list of the division and say "well everybody is missing nine players this week" it might make you feel better, but it doesn't solve our problem.
When you're a) operating on a budget like ours and b) hanging your whole reason for being on developing players to sell, you can't afford them sitting in the stand.
We were a win or two off the play-offs this time last year after we beat Blackburn, and fell apart from there because of player availability.
Once again this year we've played our way to within three points of the play-offs, and are now risking falling away because of player availability.
Rumarn Burrell was already on ten goals, if he'd stayed fit it's reasonable to assume he'd have got to 15-16 minimum, at which point you could probably have flipped him straight away this summer for quite good money to a Middlesbrough/Birmingham type. Instead he's now injured, at the end of a period when his form had declined and he was obviously tiring.
The key to being better next year is coping better with this period of games. What shall we do differently to make sure it doesn't happen? And if it's happening to everybody, rather than use that as an excuse let's ask what do we do differently to give ourselves a competitive advantage? |
It's very relevant, in my opinion, and in fact your opening claim effectively does a volte-face with your final sentence.
It's speculation with hindsight that the team's hit the buffers solely, or even mostly, because we've got a handful of players out. The salient difference with QPR is that the management team leans it into as an excuse (when it isn't whining about 3 day weeks, long trips to Norwich on the bus (!), the wind, or whatever else is on the agenda this week), thereby deliberately instantiate a culture of mediocrity and tolerance of low standards via downwardly managed expectations. It's frankly embarrassing.
The shocking way we performed at Stoke in parking aforesaid bus (once the poor lambs had blearily staggered off it) has far less to do with missing a winger or two, or even our top scorer, and everything to do with a depressing, defeatist, and indeed cynical/cheating mindset. We were missing Burrell and one or two others at West Ham too, but we managed not to play like spoiling jerks there - mainly because Nourry/JS realised, I suggest, that we had 9,000 fans there, most of whom wouldn't have stood for it.
The question is, for me, whether being a supporter means you support that culture come what may, or instead demand the club throw off its 'mind-forg'd manacles' and try to become the best it can be. [Post edited 27 Jan 20:06]
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| Three-game weeks on 20:49 - Jan 27 with 235 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
As far as fitness is concerned with Sports Science and the data clubs now collect I would have thought that the coaches and performance team would know exactly what each player's capacities are. Distance covered, sprint distances and speed and all the other metrics they collect. If a player is achieving below their personal capacity or performance is dropping off quickly they will know by how much in real time and probably have the reasons for that.
From Athletics we know that when athletes try to stay at or exceed their peak they becoming more vulnerable to injury and illness. Then's the importance of recovery which is talked about a lot these days and maybe that is where A-A-H teams are really hit relative to the H-H-A teams. Dealing with all this must be a matter of judgement and compromise, along with the players abilities, tactics and all the other factors.
Tell the club that the players must be fitter if you like but I reckon you are way behind the game in terms of what they know, what they can do about it and what's possible. | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 20:57 - Jan 27 with 229 views | KensalT |
| Three-game weeks on 20:49 - Jan 27 by Spaghetti_Hoops |
As far as fitness is concerned with Sports Science and the data clubs now collect I would have thought that the coaches and performance team would know exactly what each player's capacities are. Distance covered, sprint distances and speed and all the other metrics they collect. If a player is achieving below their personal capacity or performance is dropping off quickly they will know by how much in real time and probably have the reasons for that.
From Athletics we know that when athletes try to stay at or exceed their peak they becoming more vulnerable to injury and illness. Then's the importance of recovery which is talked about a lot these days and maybe that is where A-A-H teams are really hit relative to the H-H-A teams. Dealing with all this must be a matter of judgement and compromise, along with the players abilities, tactics and all the other factors.
Tell the club that the players must be fitter if you like but I reckon you are way behind the game in terms of what they know, what they can do about it and what's possible. |
Big clubs aren't interested in judgement and compromise.
And to be fair, they are the ones collecting and looking at the data.
Their solution is bigger squads and more substitutes:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
"Europe's top clubs, including some Premier League sides, have held discussions about using six substitutes per game to ease the workload on players.
Sides met at the European Football Clubs' (EFC) general assembly in Rome last week to discuss issues within the game.
It was not officially on the agenda, but clubs had informal, private discussions about utilising 28-man squads - up from the current 25 - and six substitutes.
Manchester City, Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal and Nottingham Forest were among those from the Premier League in Italy.
Football's rulemakers, the International Football Association Board (Ifab), would need to recommend any changes first, and it is unclear when, if at all, any changes would be made.
Five substitutes were introduced in the Premier League in May 2020 before football resumed during the coronavirus pandemic.
The league reverted back to three for the 2020-21 season, before five was voted in permanently from the 2022-23 season. An extra substitute is allowed to replace a player with a suspected head injury.
Three extra squad places are seen as being able to reduce the workload on players after threats of strikes." | | | |
| Three-game weeks on 20:59 - Jan 27 with 225 views | Rsole |
| Three-game weeks on 21:23 - Jan 26 by 7374Ranger |
He is conditioning the squad to be fully fit for the final leg if the season i.e. After the Easter weekend. That's 4 games when they will be facing Bristol City Millwall Derby and finally Ipswich.
Here's hoping QPR do not desperately need the points from these games, because we have a deal with Bristol City, that the games should end in away wins! Usually crap at Millwall. Derby could go either way and Ipswich will probably need the points for a promotion place.
P.s. Saturday's loss has drained my confidence, a bit like Mane's stoppage time winner for Southampton in Ramsay's 1st match in charge after Redknapp resigned. |
The new Ibiza Cup ? |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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As far as fitness is concerned with Sports Science and the data clubs now collect I would have thought that the coaches and performance team would know exactly what each player's capacities are. Distance covered, sprint distances and speed and all the other metrics they collect. If a player is achieving below their personal capacity or performance is dropping off quickly they will know by how much in real time and probably have the reasons for that.
From Athletics we know that when athletes try to stay at or exceed their peak they becoming more vulnerable to injury and illness. Then's the importance of recovery which is talked about a lot these days and maybe that is where A-A-H teams are really hit relative to the H-H-A teams. Dealing with all this must be a matter of judgement and compromise, along with the players abilities, tactics and all the other factors.
Tell the club that the players must be fitter if you like but I reckon you are way behind the game in terms of what they know, what they can do about it and what's possible. |
And yet in our least challenging, least competitive game of the season, the worst team that’s going to play in this league for years - 4 first team players off injured by half time including the top scorer and most sellable asset out until March. | | | |
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| Three-game weeks on 20:49 - Jan 27 by Spaghetti_Hoops |
As far as fitness is concerned with Sports Science and the data clubs now collect I would have thought that the coaches and performance team would know exactly what each player's capacities are. Distance covered, sprint distances and speed and all the other metrics they collect. If a player is achieving below their personal capacity or performance is dropping off quickly they will know by how much in real time and probably have the reasons for that.
From Athletics we know that when athletes try to stay at or exceed their peak they becoming more vulnerable to injury and illness. Then's the importance of recovery which is talked about a lot these days and maybe that is where A-A-H teams are really hit relative to the H-H-A teams. Dealing with all this must be a matter of judgement and compromise, along with the players abilities, tactics and all the other factors.
Tell the club that the players must be fitter if you like but I reckon you are way behind the game in terms of what they know, what they can do about it and what's possible. |
So you don’t think it’s possible to have fewer injuries at this stage of a season? You think the Performance function is doing as good a job as is possible?
That is effectively what that post is saying, isn’t it?
Fair play if you believe that. It’s quite depressing and defeatist, imo.
But also, no matter how well you do at something in a professional capacity, you should always be striving to do better, shouldn’t you? That is the job. And it is also the whole point of competitive sport. So surely the rhetoric should be about aiming to do better next season, by doing something different. Not arguing there isn’t a problem.
As an aside, I think we are one of the only clubs in the land whose performance function is led by a guy whose entire career background was in cycling, and who came in and said he was going to bring principles from that world into football as he believed it would give us an edge. Call me a lunatic, but perhaps he’s wrong and it’s disadvantaging us.
And, further to that, why not put it to the test and hire someone who’s spent their career in football to lead that aspect of the club and see if it improves it? Give them 3 seasons like Ben Williams will have had. Then we’ll know for sure. Agree? You might be proven correct! | | | |
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