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No VAR what a difference 07:00 - Aug 5 with 2592 viewsSaintRiyadh

Thought it was a much better game without VAR maybe because the was nothing to controversial ?

VAR has been killing games in the PREM due to over critical decisions, offsides by a nasal hair, going to enjoy the season without it.
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No VAR what a difference on 07:59 - Aug 5 with 2515 viewssaint22

Yes it may be more fun
But the new added time laws are equally stupid
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No VAR what a difference on 08:04 - Aug 5 with 2505 viewsMattFinish

Imagine VAR and the added time laws. The match will last 2hr 15m
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No VAR what a difference on 10:19 - Aug 5 with 2380 viewsdarthvader

No VAR what a difference on 08:04 - Aug 5 by MattFinish

Imagine VAR and the added time laws. The match will last 2hr 15m


If no var last year we would have stayed up and would have progressed further in the fa cup .

Var sux the devils balls

keep the faith coyr

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No VAR what a difference on 10:45 - Aug 5 with 2345 viewsTimSaint

The only thing they could have perhaps looked at, was the elbow to Tella's face in the first half.

It was a great bit of skill and nutmeg to turn the defender, but ultimately, no foul was given and the pundits didn't really make anything of it.

If Tella was caught intentionally and VAR had intervened, then a red card would have been handy, as we were already 1-0 up.

It was refreshing not to have all the breaks in play and waiting for decisions to be made, but perhaps most importantly, goals could be celebrated in 'real time'.

TimSaint

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No VAR what a difference on 11:46 - Aug 5 with 2302 viewssledger

No VAR what a difference on 07:59 - Aug 5 by saint22

Yes it may be more fun
But the new added time laws are equally stupid


and what is stupid about overpaid footballers actually having to play the actual minutes there meant to,kicking the ball away,fake head injuries,taking ages over dead ball kicks and throws not such an advantage now,football has been cheating the fans for ever,i am all for it
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No VAR what a difference on 12:22 - Aug 5 with 2261 viewskingslandstand1

No VAR what a difference on 07:59 - Aug 5 by saint22

Yes it may be more fun
But the new added time laws are equally stupid


Not stupid at all. Surely the point as proven in last Summer's WC, is to reduce time wasting or "gamesmanship " as they used to call it, unless it duits us of course!
At least with MR's style of possession play we can waste time legally
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No VAR what a difference on 17:16 - Aug 5 with 2125 viewscocklebreath

No VAR what a difference on 12:22 - Aug 5 by kingslandstand1

Not stupid at all. Surely the point as proven in last Summer's WC, is to reduce time wasting or "gamesmanship " as they used to call it, unless it duits us of course!
At least with MR's style of possession play we can waste time legally


Agreed. I still didn’t celebrate the winner properly as I’m so used to VAR fooking things up, gonna take a few games to forget that sh1te

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No VAR what a difference on 21:10 - Aug 5 with 2026 viewshedgeend61

No VAR what a difference on 07:59 - Aug 5 by saint22

Yes it may be more fun
But the new added time laws are equally stupid


Tell us why they're stupid?
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No VAR what a difference on 21:34 - Aug 5 with 1989 viewssaint22

No VAR what a difference on 21:10 - Aug 5 by hedgeend61

Tell us why they're stupid?


Well simply because it’s inaccurate
No way was there 9 mins of added time
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No VAR what a difference on 21:56 - Aug 5 with 1964 viewshedgeend61

No VAR what a difference on 21:34 - Aug 5 by saint22

Well simply because it’s inaccurate
No way was there 9 mins of added time


I've no idea what they're adding so much on (perhaps SFC Ref can tell us), probably timewasting, but watching the Sky results prog today looks like it was applied to most games, as not many games finished before 5pm, whereas couple of seasons back they had the classifieds at 5.
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No VAR what a difference on 22:29 - Aug 5 with 1930 viewsSFC_Referee

Well tbf I do think they’re goal would’ve been ruled out by VAR as one of their lads looked to be in an offside position and blocked Bazunu’s line of vision, so as much as it didn’t make a difference today, some officiating mistakes that won’t be overturned may cost us a few points this season…

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No VAR what a difference on 22:47 - Aug 5 with 1924 viewsDorsetIan

No VAR what a difference on 07:59 - Aug 5 by saint22

Yes it may be more fun
But the new added time laws are equally stupid


I completely agree.

I was so looking forward to watching games without VAR and they go and introduce another unnecessary stupid change - what, just make sure we can really appreciate that the people in charge of football are complete morons.

Don’t they not know ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it’ ?

An extra 15 mins of time. I don’t want to watch that. 1-2 mins at the end of the first half and 3-5 at full time is just fine. Some of us have got pies to buy and trains to catch.

If people are wasting time, book them.

Absolute, useless, f*cking morons.

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No VAR what a difference on 23:08 - Aug 5 with 1906 viewsSFC_Referee

No VAR what a difference on 10:19 - Aug 5 by darthvader

If no var last year we would have stayed up and would have progressed further in the fa cup .

Var sux the devils balls


How’d you work that one out? As yeah it did go against us at time, but it also went for us, and what controversy was there in that FA cup game last season against Grimsby, as both the ones the ref originally gave and both were correct due to pure stupidity off of our defenders.

As I get and do agree with what most fans are saying on here about VAR and why they’re happy it’s not in use, but sorry but it wasn’t the difference between us staying up or going down last season whatsoever

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No VAR what a difference on 23:16 - Aug 5 with 1901 viewsSFC_Referee

No VAR what a difference on 21:34 - Aug 5 by saint22

Well simply because it’s inaccurate
No way was there 9 mins of added time


No your right, if it was for the exact time that the ball was out of play for everything, then it would’ve probably been something like 15 or so minutes. As this added time is good, as they’re adding on all the time wasted for any incidents that don't have the ball out of play for just a few seconds (so basically everything that’s not a quick free kick, throw in, goal kick etc…) meaning that we’ll get more value for money, and like Tella said yesterday, it’ll benefit our playing style more than other teams seeing how we rely on possession and keeping the ball in play for as long as possible to play well.

As the things they’ve cleaned up on and done a for this coming season all look great, as adding that 30 seconds off the field of play for anyone who needs treatment (with the exception of when disciplinary action or subs have taken place) is going to stop players rolling around on the ground simply to waste time. All this extra injury time is gonna make players wanna time waste less as it’ll just get re-added, and if they don’t then the refs being more strict on it will lead to more cautionings for it. And then to make things even better they’re being even more strict on dissent leading to less idiots inspiring and influencing lower levels of the game abusing officials like they currently do. So outta all these new things they’re tidying up, footballs needed for a long time.

And even then all these injury time totals will only get smaller and smaller as players realise there’s no point in time wasting anymore As it’ll just get added back on, and therefore when they stop wasting as much time the injury time will be reduced back to the more typical totals we’re used to.

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No VAR what a difference on 23:20 - Aug 5 with 1898 viewsSFC_Referee

No VAR what a difference on 21:56 - Aug 5 by hedgeend61

I've no idea what they're adding so much on (perhaps SFC Ref can tell us), probably timewasting, but watching the Sky results prog today looks like it was applied to most games, as not many games finished before 5pm, whereas couple of seasons back they had the classifieds at 5.


Yeah well they’re adding on time now to the injury time total, for anything where the ball is out of play for more than a few seconds (so goal celebrations, disciplinary action, injuries, subs, any set pieces that aren’t taken basically straight away etc…) whistle previously all they added them on for were the major delays that held up the game by something like 30 seconds onwards, which weren’t exactly that often and made up very little of the time lost (hence the reduced injury times previously), whilst now they’re also adding on all the little extra ones which made up the majorly of the time lost in a game.

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No VAR what a difference on 09:37 - Aug 6 with 1778 viewsdarthvader

No VAR what a difference on 23:08 - Aug 5 by SFC_Referee

How’d you work that one out? As yeah it did go against us at time, but it also went for us, and what controversy was there in that FA cup game last season against Grimsby, as both the ones the ref originally gave and both were correct due to pure stupidity off of our defenders.

As I get and do agree with what most fans are saying on here about VAR and why they’re happy it’s not in use, but sorry but it wasn’t the difference between us staying up or going down last season whatsoever


Fa cup game it took 4and a half minutes to decide that the ball took a feint touch on lyancos arm after nobody saw it .. so would have been no pen there .. the goal by adam Armstrong again bounced off him awkwardly then shaved his arm . He didnt control it with his arm ... so it would have been a goal .

As for their other pen the bloke went down like he was shot with a 9mm he exaggerated. Then got up and celebrated like he won the cup already .he cheated..yes it was given for the retaliation slight push but you could argue if about what came before . Could have booked both players and gave us a free kick and it would have been less controversial. As it was he gave a penalty.

The other goals chalked off for offside during the season we had a number of goals ruled out for less than a piss stain off which no linesman could possibly have seen and they would have stood ... Goals breed confidence and momentum,we would have won more games so yes if no var we would have had more points . And progressed in cup

That being said im glad we are in the championship ...no bullshit var hold uos of hair breath offside nonsense

keep the faith coyr

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No VAR what a difference on 10:24 - Aug 6 with 1744 viewsButty101

No VAR what a difference on 09:37 - Aug 6 by darthvader

Fa cup game it took 4and a half minutes to decide that the ball took a feint touch on lyancos arm after nobody saw it .. so would have been no pen there .. the goal by adam Armstrong again bounced off him awkwardly then shaved his arm . He didnt control it with his arm ... so it would have been a goal .

As for their other pen the bloke went down like he was shot with a 9mm he exaggerated. Then got up and celebrated like he won the cup already .he cheated..yes it was given for the retaliation slight push but you could argue if about what came before . Could have booked both players and gave us a free kick and it would have been less controversial. As it was he gave a penalty.

The other goals chalked off for offside during the season we had a number of goals ruled out for less than a piss stain off which no linesman could possibly have seen and they would have stood ... Goals breed confidence and momentum,we would have won more games so yes if no var we would have had more points . And progressed in cup

That being said im glad we are in the championship ...no bullshit var hold uos of hair breath offside nonsense


JWPs goal against villa that after a long VAR check got ridiculously ruled out. I think that was a turning point in the season. Dominated the game should have won and ended up losing 1-0.

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No VAR what a difference on 10:52 - Aug 6 with 1722 viewsHeisenberg

No VAR what a difference on 21:34 - Aug 5 by saint22

Well simply because it’s inaccurate
No way was there 9 mins of added time


It’s the time the ball was out of play. Goalkeepers taking a minute to take a kick or players taking an age for a throw in alongside fake injuries was driving me mad. Football watching is expensive. Fans are being cheated by time wasting antics.

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No VAR what a difference on 13:35 - Aug 6 with 1659 viewsSFC_Referee

No VAR what a difference on 09:37 - Aug 6 by darthvader

Fa cup game it took 4and a half minutes to decide that the ball took a feint touch on lyancos arm after nobody saw it .. so would have been no pen there .. the goal by adam Armstrong again bounced off him awkwardly then shaved his arm . He didnt control it with his arm ... so it would have been a goal .

As for their other pen the bloke went down like he was shot with a 9mm he exaggerated. Then got up and celebrated like he won the cup already .he cheated..yes it was given for the retaliation slight push but you could argue if about what came before . Could have booked both players and gave us a free kick and it would have been less controversial. As it was he gave a penalty.

The other goals chalked off for offside during the season we had a number of goals ruled out for less than a piss stain off which no linesman could possibly have seen and they would have stood ... Goals breed confidence and momentum,we would have won more games so yes if no var we would have had more points . And progressed in cup

That being said im glad we are in the championship ...no bullshit var hold uos of hair breath offside nonsense


I’m family certain the A.Armstrong incident was in the EFL cup, not the FA Cup, and yeah well it may have been harsh but it’s still correct under the LOTG. And with the pen, well the ref did give that one and sent CC off, as that had nothing to do with VAR other than double checking everything, as he may of gone down easily but it was still so stupid of CC to do what he did in the first place, as only 1 restart and card we’re gonna be shown after he did it.

And yeah we did have many goals we scored, chalked off by VAR… but so did every other team, as well as all of us having many goals disallowed against us and VAR red card reviews gaining in our favour throughout the season. As we went down because we were shite, nothing to do with VAR whatsoever, and would’ve been the exact same even if last season had occurred like 6 years ago before VAR was introduced

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No VAR what a difference on 13:55 - Aug 6 with 1640 viewshedgeend61

No VAR what a difference on 23:20 - Aug 5 by SFC_Referee

Yeah well they’re adding on time now to the injury time total, for anything where the ball is out of play for more than a few seconds (so goal celebrations, disciplinary action, injuries, subs, any set pieces that aren’t taken basically straight away etc…) whistle previously all they added them on for were the major delays that held up the game by something like 30 seconds onwards, which weren’t exactly that often and made up very little of the time lost (hence the reduced injury times previously), whilst now they’re also adding on all the little extra ones which made up the majorly of the time lost in a game.


Ref, here's a thought.
If the norm seems to be about 9 minutes added in the second half of most games this weekend, next week in the PL, with VAR taking forever to sort offside and penalties, we could be looking at 15 added on in some PL games. What do you think?

Also yellow cards will be an all time high this season
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No VAR what a difference on 13:58 - Aug 6 with 1639 viewsSFC_Referee

No VAR what a difference on 13:55 - Aug 6 by hedgeend61

Ref, here's a thought.
If the norm seems to be about 9 minutes added in the second half of most games this weekend, next week in the PL, with VAR taking forever to sort offside and penalties, we could be looking at 15 added on in some PL games. What do you think?

Also yellow cards will be an all time high this season


Yeah well they probably will be, but still if it means that we all get more value for money, see a lot less time wasting and issues around it all, then I don’t see what the issue is. As the idea behind it is that players will learn from this so will speed up, and therefore there’ll be less delays and the total injury times will get m9re and more reduced as time goes on

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No VAR what a difference on 14:05 - Aug 6 with 1628 viewshedgeend61

No VAR what a difference on 13:58 - Aug 6 by SFC_Referee

Yeah well they probably will be, but still if it means that we all get more value for money, see a lot less time wasting and issues around it all, then I don’t see what the issue is. As the idea behind it is that players will learn from this so will speed up, and therefore there’ll be less delays and the total injury times will get m9re and more reduced as time goes on


I agree, stop wasting time on goal kicks, free kicks, feigning injury, get back to the normal 4 or 5 min quite soon
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