| Disciplinarian Required? 13:06 - Nov 5 with 1757 views | templarinexile |
There seems t to be a groundswell for a new manager to send a few rockets up the player's appropriate body parts .
If Tondo wants to make an impression he could start by dropping AA, and any others of his shabby cohort who admit to having given less than 100%.
If that means major overhaul and a shedload of U21s coming in then bring it on.
Hansen once said "you'll win nothing with kids" - well we can't seem to win anything with "experienced" old pros. |  | | |  |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 13:56 - Nov 5 with 1670 views | DorsetIan |
Not necessarily a disciplinarian but we definitely need a manager that the players will instinctively respect as a leader, and someone who is going to be able to man manage any piss taking from individual players. |  |
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| Disciplinarian Required? on 14:34 - Nov 5 with 1626 views | dirk_doone |
Their position is undermined by having a director of football ultimately in control of key decisions. The likes of Lawrie McMenemy and Alex Ferguson were able to get rid of any senior pros who didn't show respect towards them. That's not the case for our managers now.
I'm really not sure that having a director of football is such a good thing, especially not the one we have at the moment. There have been reports of senior players going above the heads of our managers to the DOF. That's not good for team disipline. [Post edited 5 Nov 14:38]
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| Disciplinarian Required? on 16:06 - Nov 5 with 1456 views | saint22 |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 13:56 - Nov 5 by DorsetIan |
Not necessarily a disciplinarian but we definitely need a manager that the players will instinctively respect as a leader, and someone who is going to be able to man manage any piss taking from individual players. |
I think Gerrard is that man
not only will he garner respect there are a lot of our players who would be petrified of him as they aren't fit to tie his laces
he would sort the wheat from the chaff quickly | | | |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 16:29 - Nov 5 with 1429 views | Centurion |
Disciplinarian and respect...tend to go hand in hand | | | |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 17:51 - Nov 5 with 1302 views | Heisenberg |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 16:06 - Nov 5 by saint22 |
I think Gerrard is that man
not only will he garner respect there are a lot of our players who would be petrified of him as they aren't fit to tie his laces
he would sort the wheat from the chaff quickly |
Villa fans will disagree. They couldn’t wait to get rid of him. |  |
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| Disciplinarian Required? on 19:40 - Nov 5 with 1200 views | benalisbroom |
I think we tried a disciplinarian in the form of Nathan Jones: presumably Capt Jack decided that he didn’t like him and told the team to stop trying…🙄
Sorry for the sarcasm - still incensed by the AA interview. | | | |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 20:55 - Nov 5 with 1109 views | saint22 |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 17:51 - Nov 5 by Heisenberg |
Villa fans will disagree. They couldn’t wait to get rid of him. |
True enough but that was the PL I would think down here things are a tad different
But yes point taken
Although given that firs half I will pay his rent for a month | | | |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 11:04 - Nov 6 with 952 views | Ifonly |
Not sure we'll get anywhere with a disciplinarian. What's he going to do, drop players? That's exactly what WS did and look how the players reacted. The disciplinarian would drop JS and the Rusty favourites and they'd down tools again. What happens then? Manager sacked.
The problem is the toxic culture at SFC where players can get away with downing tools and it's the manager who gets sacked. There's a bunch of players there who like to have the manager treat them as their mate and it will be difficult to move on until they either lose influence or are gone. | | | |
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| Disciplinarian Required? on 11:14 - Nov 6 with 939 views | benalisbroom |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 11:04 - Nov 6 by Ifonly |
Not sure we'll get anywhere with a disciplinarian. What's he going to do, drop players? That's exactly what WS did and look how the players reacted. The disciplinarian would drop JS and the Rusty favourites and they'd down tools again. What happens then? Manager sacked.
The problem is the toxic culture at SFC where players can get away with downing tools and it's the manager who gets sacked. There's a bunch of players there who like to have the manager treat them as their mate and it will be difficult to move on until they either lose influence or are gone. |
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| Disciplinarian Required? on 11:54 - Nov 6 with 892 views | GRIM |
| Disciplinarian Required? on 11:04 - Nov 6 by Ifonly |
Not sure we'll get anywhere with a disciplinarian. What's he going to do, drop players? That's exactly what WS did and look how the players reacted. The disciplinarian would drop JS and the Rusty favourites and they'd down tools again. What happens then? Manager sacked.
The problem is the toxic culture at SFC where players can get away with downing tools and it's the manager who gets sacked. There's a bunch of players there who like to have the manager treat them as their mate and it will be difficult to move on until they either lose influence or are gone. |
Spot on.
The Great George Graham once said that the players will never respect you if you get to friendly / familiar with them.
Managers / Coaches should "Not" be treating players us best buddies.
And the even Greater Alan Ball once told me that it's virtually impossible to manage players that have a bigger salary than the manager.
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