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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 792268 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

[Post edited 29 Mar 4:37]

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The Countdown begins. on 23:32 - Aug 11 with 1944 viewsexiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/brexit-swansea-leave-voting-tur

Tough shit, Swansea. Reap what you sow.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:51 - Aug 11 with 1931 viewsDJack

The Countdown begins. on 23:32 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/brexit-swansea-leave-voting-tur

Tough shit, Swansea. Reap what you sow.


Jack_Meoff is happy then with his crop...

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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The Countdown begins. on 00:41 - Aug 12 with 1911 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 23:32 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/brexit-swansea-leave-voting-tur

Tough shit, Swansea. Reap what you sow.


They certainly have with The WAG and devolution ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Reap what you sow ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
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The Countdown begins. on 07:58 - Aug 12 with 1861 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 23:32 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/brexit-swansea-leave-voting-tur

Tough shit, Swansea. Reap what you sow.


Or ... these good people have the democratic right to change their minds.
Especially after being lied to.?

Lots of leavers have changed as the reality becomes obvious.

A peoples vote, or general election it is then.
[Post edited 12 Aug 2018 7:59]

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The Countdown begins. on 08:09 - Aug 12 with 1857 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 07:58 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

Or ... these good people have the democratic right to change their minds.
Especially after being lied to.?

Lots of leavers have changed as the reality becomes obvious.

A peoples vote, or general election it is then.
[Post edited 12 Aug 2018 7:59]


So are we going to have another referendum on Welsh devolution too ?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:45 - Aug 12 with 1843 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

you dintโ€™t know what youโ€™re doing
You donโ€™t know what youโ€™re doing

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The Countdown begins. on 11:56 - Aug 12 with 1816 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 08:09 - Aug 12 by peenemunde

So are we going to have another referendum on Welsh devolution too ?


There have already been 3.

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The Countdown begins. on 12:47 - Aug 12 with 1792 viewsjohnlangy

The Countdown begins. on 11:56 - Aug 12 by sherpajacob

There have already been 3.


And the vote was yes every time.

So definitely no going back whatever some odd people may want.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:50 - Aug 12 with 1789 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 08:09 - Aug 12 by peenemunde

So are we going to have another referendum on Welsh devolution too ?


Had 3 already.

Only the new half wit AM in charge of UKIP might call for it ..?
All the others are pro Weksh Government.

Do you think the welsh people are uniquely unable to make their own decisions ?

Shirley the decisions that effect wales, should be made in wales, and by elected welsh people.
You know just like the rest of the world.

โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 13:00 - Aug 12 with 1788 viewsLohengrin

The Countdown begins. on 12:50 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

Had 3 already.

Only the new half wit AM in charge of UKIP might call for it ..?
All the others are pro Weksh Government.

Do you think the welsh people are uniquely unable to make their own decisions ?

Shirley the decisions that effect wales, should be made in wales, and by elected welsh people.
You know just like the rest of the world.


The ONLY way subsidiarity can be ushered toward a workable transparency is on a non-party basis.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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The Countdown begins. on 13:28 - Aug 12 with 1778 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 12:50 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

Had 3 already.

Only the new half wit AM in charge of UKIP might call for it ..?
All the others are pro Weksh Government.

Do you think the welsh people are uniquely unable to make their own decisions ?

Shirley the decisions that effect wales, should be made in wales, and by elected welsh people.
You know just like the rest of the world.


I completely agree with your last paragraph. Those decisions should be made here. So why do you contradict yourself by wanting to hand power to appointed, unelected, unaccountable mates of Theresa May in Brussels?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:38 - Aug 12 with 1774 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 16:05 - Aug 12 with 1749 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 13:28 - Aug 12 by Highjack

I completely agree with your last paragraph. Those decisions should be made here. So why do you contradict yourself by wanting to hand power to appointed, unelected, unaccountable mates of Theresa May in Brussels?


You have the very same conflict of course.
You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU.
Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments.
London rule has failed Wales.
Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

Feck the Tory brexit.

โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 16:15 - Aug 12 with 1744 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 16:05 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

You have the very same conflict of course.
You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU.
Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments.
London rule has failed Wales.
Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

Feck the Tory brexit.


When did Wales vote for the EU?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:00 - Aug 12 with 1724 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 16:15 - Aug 12 by Highjack

When did Wales vote for the EU?


We have these things called general elections periodically.

Every one up until 2017 returned a majority of MPs and parties committed to the EU.

Parties opposed to the EU generally got no seats.

A significant number of Welsh MPs are still very much pro EU.

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The Countdown begins. on 17:36 - Aug 12 with 1710 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 17:00 - Aug 12 by sherpajacob

We have these things called general elections periodically.

Every one up until 2017 returned a majority of MPs and parties committed to the EU.

Parties opposed to the EU generally got no seats.

A significant number of Welsh MPs are still very much pro EU.


It's not that simple.

Wales also voted for parties that voted for the Iraq War and the trail of destruction and millions dead and displaced that followed but I doubt you'd find a single Welsh person who would support that.

General Elections are never fought on a single issue and a vote for that party is not a endorsement of everything they have done or will do next.

Wales voted for Labour in the 70's when they used to be fiercely eurosceptic.

Wales voted for Labour in the 90's and 2000's when they became passionate europhiles

Wales voted for Labour in 2017 when they committed to leaving the European Union in their manifesto and have a lifelong Eurosceptic leader who has campaigned and voted against every European treaty since 1983.

The findings of this study suggests Wales votes Labour regardless of their stance on Europe.

Wales has never voted for the EU.

Wales has however voted to leave the EU.

It could not be more simple.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Aug 12 with 1701 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 17:36 - Aug 12 by Highjack

It's not that simple.

Wales also voted for parties that voted for the Iraq War and the trail of destruction and millions dead and displaced that followed but I doubt you'd find a single Welsh person who would support that.

General Elections are never fought on a single issue and a vote for that party is not a endorsement of everything they have done or will do next.

Wales voted for Labour in the 70's when they used to be fiercely eurosceptic.

Wales voted for Labour in the 90's and 2000's when they became passionate europhiles

Wales voted for Labour in 2017 when they committed to leaving the European Union in their manifesto and have a lifelong Eurosceptic leader who has campaigned and voted against every European treaty since 1983.

The findings of this study suggests Wales votes Labour regardless of their stance on Europe.

Wales has never voted for the EU.

Wales has however voted to leave the EU.

It could not be more simple.


It is simple.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact
Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though.
If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

Feck the Tory Brexit.

โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 17:54 - Aug 12 with 1695 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

It is simple.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact
Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though.
If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

Feck the Tory Brexit.


There was no referendum in 1973 when the U.K. joined the EEC. There was one in 1975 about whether we should stay in or not.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:17 - Aug 12 with 1680 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

It is simple.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact
Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though.
If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

Feck the Tory Brexit.


The EU didnโ€™t exist in the seventies fact. it was just a trading community with other rules about coal and atomic cooperation. Fact.

England never joined the U.K. via a vote either.. Fact.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Poll: The official planetswans European election poll. Your vote goes to?

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The Countdown begins. on 18:45 - Aug 12 with 1675 viewsjohnlangy

The Countdown begins. on 16:05 - Aug 12 by Kilkennyjack

You have the very same conflict of course.
You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU.
Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments.
London rule has failed Wales.
Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

Feck the Tory brexit.


Mustn't forget of course the entirely unelected House of Lords.

Brexiters moan and groan about the EU not being democratic but I don't hear them calling for the abolition of that place.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:48 - Aug 12 with 1671 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:45 - Aug 12 by johnlangy

Mustn't forget of course the entirely unelected House of Lords.

Brexiters moan and groan about the EU not being democratic but I don't hear them calling for the abolition of that place.


I have lots of times.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:54 - Aug 12 with 1668 viewsjohnlangy

The Countdown begins. on 18:48 - Aug 12 by Highjack

I have lots of times.


Consider my hand smacked .
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The Countdown begins. on 20:11 - Aug 12 with 1642 viewsBatterseajack

Lord Mogg thinks a second referendum would be a good idea

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The Countdown begins. on 20:51 - Aug 12 with 1626 viewsKerouac

The Countdown begins. on 18:54 - Aug 12 by johnlangy

Consider my hand smacked .


Me too.

Have been calling for the abolition of the Lords for at least 20 years now...and Proportional Representation.
The current establishment stitch up is designed to deny change.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:39 - Aug 12 with 1598 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:51 - Aug 12 by Kerouac

Me too.

Have been calling for the abolition of the Lords for at least 20 years now...and Proportional Representation.
The current establishment stitch up is designed to deny change.


Save ยฃ198m per year if it was closed.

โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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