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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1139041 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:40 - Sep 22 with 553 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:31 - Sep 22 by Joe_bradshaw

It's a mystery.

I wouldn't call 52.5 to 47.5 overwhelming either.


Not a mystery, but a secret. If we let those sneaky foreign johnnies into the secret, they wouldn’t let us go. Or something. Ask Bluey, he receives the full download from Planet Nutter.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:52 - Sep 22 with 528 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:31 - Sep 22 by Joe_bradshaw

It's a mystery.

I wouldn't call 52.5 to 47.5 overwhelming either.


2 million people is a big majority.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:02 - Sep 22 with 522 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:10 - Sep 22 by Brynmill_Jack

The remainers' position, typically. Let the "higher classes" decide. Usually it's the Welsh exiles , i.e. the people who chose not to live here who are condemning the Welsh electorate's overwhelming vote to leave.


Overwhelming

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:03 - Sep 22 with 520 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:52 - Sep 22 by Jango

2 million people is a big majority.


There wasn’t a majority of 2m. Least of all in Wales which is what’s being referred to as “overwhelming”.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:07 - Sep 22 with 516 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:02 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

Overwhelming


Brynnies continued support of the Uber wealthy trying to avoid tax is one of the great mysteries of this brexit debate.

As is his constant criticism of anyone who’s moved to get work.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:08 - Sep 22 with 514 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:52 - Sep 22 by Jango

2 million people is a big majority.


He was talking about Wales.

Even in the UK, the result was the product of votes from 800,000 people, not 2 million.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:19 - Sep 22 with 503 viewswaynekerr55

I asked the question as there are a lot of consequences in the supply chain. For example, the bulk of the chemicals and raw materials used for UK manufactured Cellotex insulation come from Germany and Turkey. Now some may say "just get more from Turkey"; will that lead to decreases in product quality? Can the other countries meet the demands?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:25 - Sep 22 with 488 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:03 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

There wasn’t a majority of 2m. Least of all in Wales which is what’s being referred to as “overwhelming”.


Sorry it was meant be a 1 and I was referring to the overall vote, which was 1.2m, which even though a 52%-48% is still a big majority.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:25 - Sep 22 with 494 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:19 - Sep 22 by waynekerr55

I asked the question as there are a lot of consequences in the supply chain. For example, the bulk of the chemicals and raw materials used for UK manufactured Cellotex insulation come from Germany and Turkey. Now some may say "just get more from Turkey"; will that lead to decreases in product quality? Can the other countries meet the demands?


The imports from Turkey are reliant on Turkey’s customs union with the EU.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:44 - Sep 22 with 479 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Labour conference is lovingly chaotic again. They just had to abandon a vote because no one, including the chair, could adequately explain what they were voting for. Like old times.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:47 - Sep 22 with 477 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:25 - Sep 22 by Jango

Sorry it was meant be a 1 and I was referring to the overall vote, which was 1.2m, which even though a 52%-48% is still a big majority.
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It’s not though is it. It’s slightly less than 52 against slightly more than 48. It’s not a big majority in anyone’s book, especially as it facilitates such overwhelming constitutional upheaval. One of Cameron’s many mistakes was deciding a simple majority would win the day.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:53 - Sep 22 with 473 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:25 - Sep 22 by Jango

Sorry it was meant be a 1 and I was referring to the overall vote, which was 1.2m, which even though a 52%-48% is still a big majority.
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As I said, that majority is only the result of votes from 800,000 people. Actually less, as I was thinking the difference was 1.6m whereas as you point out, it’s only 1.25m.

So the votes of 600,000 odd people.

That’s not very many people.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:02 - Sep 22 with 466 viewslondonlisa2001

Why isn’t the media talking more about the Sunday Times’ article on Jennifer Arcuri today btw?

How on earth is her name not all over social media?

Russian bots quiet perhaps...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:04 - Sep 22 with 463 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:02 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

Why isn’t the media talking more about the Sunday Times’ article on Jennifer Arcuri today btw?

How on earth is her name not all over social media?

Russian bots quiet perhaps...


Nothing to do with blue passports or commemorative 50ps, obviously.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:09 - Sep 22 with 458 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:47 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

It’s not though is it. It’s slightly less than 52 against slightly more than 48. It’s not a big majority in anyone’s book, especially as it facilitates such overwhelming constitutional upheaval. One of Cameron’s many mistakes was deciding a simple majority would win the day.


Indeed.

I think every club, association or company I have ever been involved in has required a two thirds majority for constitutional change.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:13 - Sep 22 with 406 viewssherpajacob

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:47 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

It’s not though is it. It’s slightly less than 52 against slightly more than 48. It’s not a big majority in anyone’s book, especially as it facilitates such overwhelming constitutional upheaval. One of Cameron’s many mistakes was deciding a simple majority would win the day.


It was decided by Parliament that a super majority was not stipulated, because the referendum vote was not binding.

All about parliamentary sovereignty.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:38 - Sep 22 with 397 viewsKilkennyjack



No doubt the experts at Oxford are wrong .... 🤷‍♂️

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:48 - Sep 22 with 383 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:38 - Sep 22 by Kilkennyjack



No doubt the experts at Oxford are wrong .... 🤷‍♂️


😂😂

Is the professor of Geography at Oxford really an expert on this? Load of crap. I don’t think many wealthy English people retired and moved to the valleys.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:04 - Sep 22 with 363 viewssherpajacob

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:38 - Sep 22 by Kilkennyjack



No doubt the experts at Oxford are wrong .... 🤷‍♂️


Many factors at play of course.

Whilst there is a separate thread on The Sun, it's been pointed out that Scotland has a,different Sun editorial team with a pro EU stance and Liverpool people don't buy the Sun, both areas voted substantially to remain.

Wales gets the English sun with all its bile, hate and lies and voted marginally to leave.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Sep 22 with 348 viewskarnataka

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:14 - Sep 22 by waynekerr55

Genuine question Brynny. How will Brexit benefit Wales?


One think I do know about Wales and the EU is that West Wales receives the 2nd most money per capita from the European Regional Development Fund in the whole of the UK @ approx 1000 Euros per person by 2020 - only Cornwall would receive more. East Wales is 4th @ 370 Euros per person by 2020.

I wonder where that money will come from in the future

All those regions voted Leave which has been called Brexiting yourself in the foot.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:23 - Sep 22 with 330 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:48 - Sep 22 by Jango

😂😂

Is the professor of Geography at Oxford really an expert on this? Load of crap. I don’t think many wealthy English people retired and moved to the valleys.


I guess he knows or he would not have published an academic paper.

You on the other hand are just guessing based on the fact you don't like what the professor - yes an actual Oxford professor - has found.

Wales was a very close vote and so relatively small numbers could have made the difference.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Sep 22 by karnataka

One think I do know about Wales and the EU is that West Wales receives the 2nd most money per capita from the European Regional Development Fund in the whole of the UK @ approx 1000 Euros per person by 2020 - only Cornwall would receive more. East Wales is 4th @ 370 Euros per person by 2020.

I wonder where that money will come from in the future

All those regions voted Leave which has been called Brexiting yourself in the foot.
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Its all the EU immigrants in those areas taking all the jobs, obviously.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:40 - Sep 22 with 302 viewsexiledclaseboy

So labour’s position is to negotiate a new deal with the E.U. within three months of forming a government, then put that deal to a referendum wth remain as the other option within another three months.

But they’re not going to tell us whether they’ll campaign for the deal or for remain until that deal is negotiated. Which remarkably, sort of makes sense.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:41 - Sep 22 with 301 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:48 - Sep 22 by Jango

😂😂

Is the professor of Geography at Oxford really an expert on this? Load of crap. I don’t think many wealthy English people retired and moved to the valleys.


He’s the Halford Mackinder Professor of Geography at Oxford University, a visiting professor in the Department of Sociology of Goldsmiths, University of London, a visiting professor in the School of Social and Community Medicine of the University of Bristol, a visiting fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research, and a member of the National Advisory Panel for the Centre for Labour and Social Studies.

He’s a specialist in social geography (which is the movement of people), a specialist in UK demographic statistics, and yet according to you, it’s a ‘load of crap’ and he’s not an expert.

It really is beyond laughable how arrogant you are. Your knowledge of geography doesn’t even extend to understanding that ‘geography’ doesn’t mean he knows the capital of France.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:58 - Sep 22 with 280 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:40 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

So labour’s position is to negotiate a new deal with the E.U. within three months of forming a government, then put that deal to a referendum wth remain as the other option within another three months.

But they’re not going to tell us whether they’ll campaign for the deal or for remain until that deal is negotiated. Which remarkably, sort of makes sense.


It needs to be made clear though. Of course you can't commit to a leave deal that you don't know is even negotiable.

But Corbyn kills votes, so without a coalition, it'll never see the light of day anyway. Minus 60 approval rating now, worst ever by a million miles and labour trailing a joke government by 15 points. Meanwhile those momentum arseholes try and make him and the Labour Party, the Labour f*cking Party, even more extreme. We have Kim F*ck-Up on one hand and Wolfie Stalin on the other.

Just. Get. F*cking. Shot.

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