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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1248670 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:28 - Sep 25 with 826 viewsladyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:22 - Sep 25 by oh_tommy_tommy

I didn’t see that mentioned anywhere


You didn't see leave with a deal mentioned on the ballot paper did you ?

''Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union ?''

That was the choice and they voted leave.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:39 - Sep 25 with 804 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:28 - Sep 25 by monmouth

So there were no protest votes against austerity or as the only way to hit back against politicians because people have shit lives? Nor any kickback against non EU immigrants, particularly Pakistani, in places like Preston and Burnley, Rochdale etc. It was all about Europe was it? Rightio.


There was all of that and the pressure is continuing to expand exponentially, Mon.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:43 - Sep 25 with 796 viewsladyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:28 - Sep 25 by monmouth

So there were no protest votes against austerity or as the only way to hit back against politicians because people have shit lives? Nor any kickback against non EU immigrants, particularly Pakistani, in places like Preston and Burnley, Rochdale etc. It was all about Europe was it? Rightio.


The party in Government were officially 'neutral' , most of the opposition parties were for 'remain', strange protest vote that then.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:57 - Sep 25 with 781 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:39 - Sep 25 by Lohengrin

There was all of that and the pressure is continuing to expand exponentially, Mon.


I don't doubt it Loh. As I'm sure everyone except Trampie can see, the point I'm trying to make is that the vote was not such a black and white viable indicator of feeling for or against the EU as Trampie is claiming.

I very much doubt those poverty riven lives will become less troubling if we leave the EU, nor will the numbers of non-eu immigrants go down, they will likely rise. Everything about that vote was based on deceit, political opportunism and an unwiillingness to face facts (facts such as the reality of life in Burnley etc, as well as the reality of the impacts of leaving or staying in the EU). I'm not blaming one side neither, but one side clearly marketed their biggest and most potent lies more loudly and more effectively than the other.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:06 - Sep 25 with 769 viewsZaxx

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:28 - Sep 25 by ladyjack

You didn't see leave with a deal mentioned on the ballot paper did you ?

''Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union ?''

That was the choice and they voted leave.


Wasn't the choice:
Leave and we get £350M a week for the NHS
Stay, Turkey will get all of our money and we'll be invaded with immigrants?

Only parts I can remember now tbh.

2 negative campaigns, neither presenting positives apart from the usual lies and spin in my opinion.
I don't remember any deal being presented but surely one would need to be particularly stupid to imagine that a 'no deal' can actually be a realistic option?
No deal simply means years of trying to attain agreements as a non member of the club. Any divorce settlement has to be agreed on before the papers are signed and the judge grants the annulment... Afterwards, not a fcUKing chance, innit?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:36 - Sep 25 with 746 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:28 - Sep 25 by ladyjack

You didn't see leave with a deal mentioned on the ballot paper did you ?

''Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union ?''

That was the choice and they voted leave.


I didn’t see no deal mentioned?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:51 - Sep 25 with 719 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:36 - Sep 25 by oh_tommy_tommy

I didn’t see no deal mentioned?


"Leave" is pretty fvcking unambiguous, even for you...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:53 - Sep 25 with 711 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:51 - Sep 25 by bluey_the_blue

"Leave" is pretty fvcking unambiguous, even for you...


F@ck me you still about odd ball .


Maybe you could answer the question, how will wakes benefit leaving the EU.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:55 - Sep 25 with 709 viewsjohnlangy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:00 - Sep 25 by londonlisa2001

Same reason as Scotland would lose their government jobs after independence. It wouldn’t be immediate but there is no chance whatsoever of England keeping these jobs in Scotland or Wales if they choose to become independent. The public outcry in England would not allow for it.

The flip side of course is that jobs currently done in England on behalf of Wales would move to Wales. So it would even out.


Just the point I would have made Lisa. It would roughly balance out.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:56 - Sep 25 with 704 viewsjohnlangy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:18 - Sep 25 by blackswan

Googled the figure came up as 6000 full and part time jobs Westminster would undoubtedly move it back to England in the event of welsh independence. How many jobs just to cover wales approx 5 per cent of uk population it would be a hammer blow for the city of Swansea


See Lisa's answer and my response to her.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:04 - Sep 25 with 682 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:53 - Sep 25 by oh_tommy_tommy

F@ck me you still about odd ball .


Maybe you could answer the question, how will wakes benefit leaving the EU.
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Wakes aren't in the EU.

#FreeTheIslingtonOne
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:06 - Sep 25 with 678 viewsexiledclaseboy

I’m glad parliament is back. I’ve missed Johnson’s pointless empty bluster and Corbyn’s feeble responses.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Sep 25 with 652 viewsbluey_the_blue

Nice zinger by Dodds there.

It's full on election mode, isn't it?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:48 - Sep 25 with 625 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Sep 25 by bluey_the_blue

Nice zinger by Dodds there.

It's full on election mode, isn't it?


Has been since Johnson took over and realised he didn’t really know what to do next.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:29 - Sep 25 with 581 viewsLeonWasGod

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:06 - Sep 25 by Zaxx

Wasn't the choice:
Leave and we get £350M a week for the NHS
Stay, Turkey will get all of our money and we'll be invaded with immigrants?

Only parts I can remember now tbh.

2 negative campaigns, neither presenting positives apart from the usual lies and spin in my opinion.
I don't remember any deal being presented but surely one would need to be particularly stupid to imagine that a 'no deal' can actually be a realistic option?
No deal simply means years of trying to attain agreements as a non member of the club. Any divorce settlement has to be agreed on before the papers are signed and the judge grants the annulment... Afterwards, not a fcUKing chance, innit?
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The principle of having future close ties (a deal) was certainly both mentioned and inferred by all parties.

They fecked up with the referendum question of ‘should we remain?’. It’s a bit like asking ‘should we cure cancer: yes/no’. And then complaining that docs haven’t found a way within 2 years.

The way the ref was handled is the most monumentally stupid self-hamstringing I’ve ever seen, and root of all the problems since.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:44 - Sep 25 with 553 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:54 - Sep 25 by Kerouac

Not at all, I love British sovereignty.

Once we have a General Election and your side has been destroyed, parliament will be in a position to put a few things right and will need to look at the relatively new Supreme Court's dabble in politics.

They can run but they can't hide.


The Tories are to blame for failing to deliver Brexit. On the morning after the referendum they had a majority of 12 in Parliament and the opportunity to elect a new leader who would lead them to their promised land.

They collectively held all the cards with which to deliver Brexit and they’ve failed miserably every step of the way.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:03 - Sep 25 with 530 viewsexiledclaseboy

How anyone could have watched Johnson’s lamentable, offensive and occasionally downright dangerous language in the House tonight and conclude that he’s in any way fit for the office he holds is beyond me.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:04 - Sep 25 with 522 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:03 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

How anyone could have watched Johnson’s lamentable, offensive and occasionally downright dangerous language in the House tonight and conclude that he’s in any way fit for the office he holds is beyond me.


Hearing they now think they have the votes for a second referendum clasey.

Johnson today was apparently the final straw.

No idea how accurate. I guess we'll see.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:06 - Sep 25 with 513 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:04 - Sep 25 by londonlisa2001

Hearing they now think they have the votes for a second referendum clasey.

Johnson today was apparently the final straw.

No idea how accurate. I guess we'll see.


What do they attach it to though?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:06 - Sep 25 with 513 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:03 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

How anyone could have watched Johnson’s lamentable, offensive and occasionally downright dangerous language in the House tonight and conclude that he’s in any way fit for the office he holds is beyond me.


I can't watch it anymore. The freak show that is Johnson and his clingons has long lost its entertainment value.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:12 - Sep 25 with 493 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:06 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

What do they attach it to though?


Well deal if he brings one (which is still what he hopes, it seems).

If he doesn’t, I imagine they’ve a few options. Could take charge of the house again?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:14 - Sep 25 with 485 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:06 - Sep 25 by monmouth

I can't watch it anymore. The freak show that is Johnson and his clingons has long lost its entertainment value.


Any notion of the Tories being the party of law and order has gone for a long time after today’s doubling down exercise.

They’ll come to regret this. Even the Telegraph poll shows the majority believe the Supreme Court to be right.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:15 - Sep 25 with 483 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:12 - Sep 25 by londonlisa2001

Well deal if he brings one (which is still what he hopes, it seems).

If he doesn’t, I imagine they’ve a few options. Could take charge of the house again?


Attaching a referendum clause to whatever version of the withdrawal agreement he eventually tries to claim as a triumph would seem the most sensible thing to do. They’d have to delay an election then though. Months more of this nonsense.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:17 - Sep 25 with 477 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:14 - Sep 25 by londonlisa2001

Any notion of the Tories being the party of law and order has gone for a long time after today’s doubling down exercise.

They’ll come to regret this. Even the Telegraph poll shows the majority believe the Supreme Court to be right.


A Lord who used to be on Supreme Court ( iirc ) was on R4 Today programme.

He said that ordinarily, the advice Cox gave would be the same he and others would give. Clearly, the Supreme Court decision was extraordinary, suppose the argument would be it was extraordinary circumstances.

It's not mutually exclusive to abide by the decision yet disagree with it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:29 - Sep 25 with 453 viewsexiledclaseboy

I’ve just seen Johnson’s response to Paula Sheriff.

I have no words to describe my contempt for that bloke right now. Even his own side looked embarrassed.

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