| Jim Ratcliffe 17:23 - Feb 12 with 3006 views | Heisenberg |
So one of the richest men in the UK and owner of Man Utd says the UK can’t afford its benefits bill whilst simultaneously moving his wealth to Monaco to avoid paying tax. Alongside saying immigrants have colonised Britain whilst using bogus data to back up his arguments. No wonder the only one supporting him is Farage. I wonder how the Republic of Manchester will react.
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:14 - Feb 13 with 936 views | jopreston |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:10 - Feb 13 by kernow |
Having lived and worked abroad he’s probably acquired the life skills to make his way in his homeland. Depending of course on his circumstances, ie he’s not physically or mentally handicapped.
Fortunately, there are many good and charitable people in the UK.
Things could be worse of course, he could have no country to come home to. |
He has no UK to come home to. He will be on the streets. I am just making the very valid point that we should also be helping the likes of him as much as we help and fund and look after Illegal Immigrants and that is true.
His story is quite a long one, but in among it all was the usual insurance BS that would not pay out on the stroke he had in June 2025 after losing his job and being cheated by the employer to the tune of 1 months salary and commissions. he was left broke and of course then also without a valid Visa. This is why we took on his case as he has been massively unlucky.
But to read the replies I got from CAB and DSS and others about him getting no help at all troubled me as that is not good to leave our own people homeless in a foreign land. |  | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:17 - Feb 13 with 914 views | jopreston |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:11 - Feb 13 by huelinsaint |
Can't he apply for a universal credit advance if he is totally broke,and as said before,try Citizen's Advice |
No. We have spoken to CAB and DSS direct and they say because he has been away more than 5 consecutive tax years he gets nothing on arrival and likely nothing for 6 weeks. It is a very bad system that favors illegal immigrants over our own people who have hit hard times through no fault of their own.
I have checked out his case to the nth degree even speaking to lawyers. It just amazes me that they turn their back on one of our own in this way.
On arrival he was told to go to his local benefit office asap. he then has to wait a week for an appointment to take an Habitual Residences test. If he passes he will be eligible for benefits after a 6 week suspension period. However, he can do none of that if he has no address. So he is a catch 22 and no one cares. Do illegal immigrants have to have residence tests and wait 6 weeks to be eligible? No. It is a disgrace. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:21 - Feb 13 with 900 views | solent_toffee |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:04 - Feb 13 by jopreston |
He has been told already that he will NOT be eligible for benefits of any kind for at least 6 weeks as he has been out of the country for more than 5 years. Do you think that is fair? he is also not eligible for a hotel, he will at best get a hostel for homeless junky types etc. Is that also fair?
All I am saying is that we look after illegal immigrants Better than we do our own and this guy has paid 26 years of tax and NI before. They have paid nothing. |
Is he already here now? Or is he applying/enquiring out of country? I’m not being arsey, genuinely trying to offer advice to your friend.
He needs to get an appointment as soon as possible with CAB. Housing is based on local connection and yes, he is possibly likely to get emergency accommodation, however that doesn’t necessarily mean a hostel. If you know a landlord who is willing to accept Jim without a deposit and can provide you with rent agreement etc, Housing Benefit will kick in. The council has few properties so if an individual can liaise by themselves (or with help from friends) and the rent meets the financial threshold for his circumstances, single male etc, then it’s a fairly straight forward process.
As I say though, you can’t do anything until he presents himself at their council. |  | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:25 - Feb 13 with 883 views | jopreston |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:21 - Feb 13 by solent_toffee |
Is he already here now? Or is he applying/enquiring out of country? I’m not being arsey, genuinely trying to offer advice to your friend.
He needs to get an appointment as soon as possible with CAB. Housing is based on local connection and yes, he is possibly likely to get emergency accommodation, however that doesn’t necessarily mean a hostel. If you know a landlord who is willing to accept Jim without a deposit and can provide you with rent agreement etc, Housing Benefit will kick in. The council has few properties so if an individual can liaise by themselves (or with help from friends) and the rent meets the financial threshold for his circumstances, single male etc, then it’s a fairly straight forward process.
As I say though, you can’t do anything until he presents himself at their council. |
he is still here and being housed by people here that we work with at the foundation. he cannot get back. He has overstay on his visa which will cost him THB 20,000 and needs a flight ticket. He lost everything as he had savings but then lost them all as he lost his status here.
We have spoken to CAB as I say. We have investigated his to the last detail and as I say, I was shocked that a UK citizen gets nothing! The catch 22 is that he cannot get back as they will not help, he cannot get housing, and will not thus be eligible for DSS. it is a mess of a system for returning expats, as confirmed by lawyers who said they have been petitioning governments for years, to no avail.
As I also said, even when he presents himself he will NOT be housed or given benefits as he has been away too long and thus gets benefit suspension. I had no idea the UK was this bad to its own people. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:29 - Feb 13 with 867 views | kernow |
If it were me I would let him sleep on my couch until he can sort himself out. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:31 - Feb 13 with 870 views | jopreston |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:29 - Feb 13 by kernow |
If it were me I would let him sleep on my couch until he can sort himself out. |
That is very decent of you sir. But it should not come to that. he should be helped by the government as if he were living there and normal. What is the difference between someone living there and losing their job after 26 years paying into the system and someone who want overseas for 6 years? It should not be like this.
But at least it gave me a chance to ruble Farage, GB News and ever dare I say it Rupert Lowe. Not a one of them cares and will help or raise it in parliament. They claim they care about the indigenous population but they are using those empty words to get power. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:35 - Feb 13 with 851 views | kernow |
Trust and reliance in politicians, government and, indeed, authority in general , went out the window a long time ago.
I wish your friend well. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 09:24 - Feb 13 with 817 views | HytheFerrytales |
My 40+ years in the oil/gas/chemical business allows me to offer the following insight into Ratcliffe/INEOS...virtually all of it I know to be fact.
In early 2000's he began buying refineries/chemical plant from the big oil companies. They were keen sellers as the system in the UK was surplus and they got their fuels from refineries in the Middle East and India.
In 2006 he got the Grangemouth refinery for free but had to commit to upgrade the safety and environmental issues to meet new legislation.( a few 10's of millions...chicken feed) The chemical complex was purchased at a small discount to real market value.
Then he hatched the brilliant plan that would make him a billionaire.
The US was rapidly expanding it's shale oil output. This oil is light, sweet and low sulphur " green " oil and absolutely no phuqing use in the US refineries as they were built solely to process black heavy high sulphur crapola from Mexico and Venezuela.
The shale oil is perfect for Grangemouth's ethylene process plant. Ratcliffe signed a bunch of low price long term contracts to bring it over from the US. the sellers were begging him to take it. he even bought a few ships (the Dragon Fleet) to shuttle it over.
So he had it all, cheap feed, cheap ships and one of the biggest Ethylene plants in Europe which was, and still is, the only one in the UK, giving him a near monopoly on the UK plastics market. At that point he had only taken small grants from Government..
Hello Mr Billionaire.
In 2013 the business ran into market headwinds and was a loss maker for him.
He went to the Government and said "you wouldn't really want me to shut this down and put 600 Jocks on the street would you?" They said "no" so he proposed the following cost cutting plan in return for £250 million in grants.
1. Scrap final salary pension scheme.
2. 3 year wage freeze
3. Cut redundancy payments to near zero
The unions tried to call his bluff but sadly for them he wasn't bluffing and they had to eat it.
Last year he blagged another £125 million in grants to upgrade the infrastructure at Grangemouth using the tried and tested threat to close up if he didn't get it.
As for Man Utd...their debt is close to £1.0 billion thanks to the Glazers. Ratcliffe did not assume any of that personally when he put in £240 million for his stake.
Anyway he continues to keep his eye firmly on the political winds of change. He supported Starmer in 2024 but seems to have decided Farage is the guy to know if he needs any more Government support in the future...the Sky interview seems to be part of that strategy.
I can't believe anyone is still reading this shit but, if you are, iI commend your stamina. | | | |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 10:19 - Feb 13 with 775 views | Heisenberg |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:10 - Feb 13 by jopreston |
Indeed, but comment like he just made are lazy. People are quick and lazy to call reform racist etc., without actually thinking first. That said, I cannot vote for Reform as I do not like or trust Farage. Zia would get my vote, but no way Farage. He is a liar and does not really care about the general UK population as he says he does. |
Perhaps people wouldn’t refer to Reform as a racist party if it didn’t have a racist leader and numerous councillors who have been outed as borderline fascists. Perhaps if it didn’t support Yaxley Lennon and others. Just a thought. | |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 11:06 - Feb 13 with 725 views | Ninja9 |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 06:09 - Feb 13 by sledger |
he just said what any sensible person in this country knows,immigration has f+cked this country,i called it invasion by stealth 20 years ago,we are having the p+ss taken out of us and im glad that i am of an age where i wont see the state of the uk in 25 years time because i think it will be a festering mess |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 11:14 - Feb 13 with 714 views | Ninja9 |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 10:19 - Feb 13 by Heisenberg |
Perhaps people wouldn’t refer to Reform as a racist party if it didn’t have a racist leader and numerous councillors who have been outed as borderline fascists. Perhaps if it didn’t support Yaxley Lennon and others. Just a thought. |
Still talking Shite i see | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 11:35 - Feb 13 with 700 views | kernow |
Nonsense.
Any “sensible person” knows that immigration has enriched the country.
Successive bad governance has ruined the country. Stupid, greedy, vain and immoral politicians with their stupid ideological dogma have ruined the country. They continue to ruin the country to the extent that the electorate have become so disillusioned and marginalised that they’re prepared to listen to anyone who says they have the solution to all the problems. They sow division, appeal to fears and prejudices, look for scapegoats and exacerbate the sense of being a victim.
There ARE too many people in England and people want to come here for a better life than they had before. Why ? The reason is probably because their countries have been destroyed by wars.Whose wars?
If we want to talk about invasions can anyone count the number of countries the Brits have invaded, exploited, starved and killed or forced the deportations of people who wouldn’t submit?
I call it chickens coming home to roost.
I doubt very much that you lads will be swayed by my opinions but I’ve absolutely no doubt I won’t be swayed by your’s. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 11:57 - Feb 13 with 679 views | huelinsaint |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:08 - Feb 13 by Ron11 |
Last time I looked, Zia Yusuf was quite brown |
He's a useful idiot, he'll be on the boat out of the UK when the fascists gain power.
It will be a slow burn , they'll see what they can get away with and keep upping the ante.
Private healthcare insurance system will be implemented, not straight away but when they've destroyed the NHS.
Don't get ill, the mad thing is that older people are flocking to Reform and they'll be the ones who'll have to sell their home to finance healthcare.
Remember this message in 2032 | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 17:54 - Feb 13 with 562 views | sledger |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 11:35 - Feb 13 by kernow |
Nonsense.
Any “sensible person” knows that immigration has enriched the country.
Successive bad governance has ruined the country. Stupid, greedy, vain and immoral politicians with their stupid ideological dogma have ruined the country. They continue to ruin the country to the extent that the electorate have become so disillusioned and marginalised that they’re prepared to listen to anyone who says they have the solution to all the problems. They sow division, appeal to fears and prejudices, look for scapegoats and exacerbate the sense of being a victim.
There ARE too many people in England and people want to come here for a better life than they had before. Why ? The reason is probably because their countries have been destroyed by wars.Whose wars?
If we want to talk about invasions can anyone count the number of countries the Brits have invaded, exploited, starved and killed or forced the deportations of people who wouldn’t submit?
I call it chickens coming home to roost.
I doubt very much that you lads will be swayed by my opinions but I’ve absolutely no doubt I won’t be swayed by your’s. |
oh my god this country is even more f+cked than i thought | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 18:42 - Feb 13 with 535 views | kernow |
That’s something we probably agree on. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 18:52 - Feb 13 with 530 views | DorsetIan |
Like it or not the country relies on immigration.
The dreams of those who hope to see immigration falling and people who are already here filling the vacancies are just that.
But if Farage can sell the same pup twice then good luck him. | |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 19:50 - Feb 13 with 495 views | Bazza |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 10:19 - Feb 13 by Heisenberg |
Perhaps people wouldn’t refer to Reform as a racist party if it didn’t have a racist leader and numerous councillors who have been outed as borderline fascists. Perhaps if it didn’t support Yaxley Lennon and others. Just a thought. |
People here refer to Reform as a racist party purely because they are blinded by their left wing bias. That’s allowed but don’t tell lies re Yaxley Lennon. I suggest you focus on your own party’s criminals | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 07:50 - Feb 14 with 404 views | saintmark1976 |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 19:50 - Feb 13 by Bazza |
People here refer to Reform as a racist party purely because they are blinded by their left wing bias. That’s allowed but don’t tell lies re Yaxley Lennon. I suggest you focus on your own party’s criminals |
Is that Yaxley Tommy Robinson Lennon or is he conveniently using some other name at the moment ? | |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 08:16 - Feb 14 with 384 views | cocklebreath |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 19:50 - Feb 13 by Bazza |
People here refer to Reform as a racist party purely because they are blinded by their left wing bias. That’s allowed but don’t tell lies re Yaxley Lennon. I suggest you focus on your own party’s criminals |
Nigel’s deffo not a racist and he’s deffo not in trumps pocket |  |
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 09:54 - Feb 14 with 341 views | UTS1885 |
Radcliffe is totally right in that parts of the country have become colonised, i can think of many parts of london now, luton , leicester as well. Then you wil have countless other ghettos from these gimmigrants from the english channel.
He personally and his company will have paid many millions in tax, hes 73 and didnt leave the country until what 68 yrs old, so has long paid his tax dues.
I think he just made a mistake saying 2020 instead of 2000 which makes his data correct.
I think you will find there are millions out there agreeing with him and its going to bring down a government and countless councils very soon. [Post edited 16 Feb 13:01]
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| Jim Ratcliffe on 13:36 - Feb 14 with 291 views | kernow |
All that power, wealth and influence, no wonder he looks so effkin miserable. | | | |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 18:16 - Feb 14 with 232 views | mushinexile |
| Jim Ratcliffe on 13:36 - Feb 14 by kernow |
All that power, wealth and influence, no wonder he looks so effkin miserable. |
You would look miserable, too if you owned a big chunk of Manure. | |
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