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at 16:10 28 Sep 2019

Alright so I have it working now - sort of. What I’ve discovered is that it’s not working at all on the iPhone app since last week - atleast on the 3 different iPhone X I have tried it on. Can anyone else confirm the same?

To watch the match today, I’ve managed to get it working on a chrome browser on Mac (unfortunately because it’s my work laptop, I can’t airplay to my Apple TV so not ideal)
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at 15:39 28 Sep 2019

I haven’t but maybe I’ll try that. I usually access it off my phone for convenience and airplay it to my Apple TV with no issues. I’ll report back in the second half.
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at 15:35 28 Sep 2019

I’m using the IOS app on my iPhone and it’s up to date. I’ve also used Chrome and Safari on my Mac.
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at 15:32 28 Sep 2019

Apologies if it came across that way - but that wasn’t at all my intent. You might have been a little over sensitive there. I’m not getting any legitimate technical support through the Stream AMG service - so I’m making enquires here as I have no other recourse.

Your’s was useful information and I really am happy for you. As far as I knew, it wasn’t working for any other users. Now I’m interested to know if this is a problem effecting just me, or all Canadian users.
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at 15:19 28 Sep 2019

That’s useful to know. And I’m really happy for you. And I couldn’t be more frustrated with the service because it legit. hasn’t worked for me for 2 weeks. I get the impression they are trying to block certain IP’s that they suspect are being accessed from within the UK, but I am legitimately in Canada. Are there any other Canada account holders that can confirm its working today?
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at 15:10 28 Sep 2019

Same problem here. It just says they aren’t broadcasting right now. I don’t think they’ve turned the feed in. The audio commentary is working though.
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at 14:51 28 Sep 2019

As far as I’m concerned, the service is currently not working at all. I live in Canada, and there were no regional restrictions last week or this week. I keep seeing a message that says nothing is currently being broadcast. I’ve contacted support, they apologize and say “try it now”. It still doesn’t work. They stopped responding to me at half time last week. I got another email from them mid week asking about my device etc. I know the problem is on their end as I’ve been using this service since the beginning so am familiar with all of the quirks.
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at 04:49 2 Sep 2019

Bumping this thread I started a year ago as I think it’s really important to look back and see how far things have come.

In particular, this is still proving true for me: “It pisses me off immensely that these American's didn't understand the history and culture that has been built within our club, especially during the past 15 years. They admitted as much in that BBC article the other day. It kills me that they were ignorant, bold and naive enough to that Idiot of an American Manager, Bradley, in charge of us. I'm so frustrated that we took big gambles on player signings in the last couple of years that haven't worked out. I do believe we are on the right track, they've learned from their mistakes and have placed trust in the right people to get the playing side of the club back on track. However, I'm also smart enough to know that as fans, we are having to live with their mistakes. Overall I think they are stupid idiots and pretty typical of the east coast VC's I've interacted with in the past. However, I don't think they are doing anything dishonest and I don't think they are going to continue to purposefully ruin our club. If they are smart, they'll open up a good channel of communication with the supporters trust and see them as the future, rightful owners of a majority stockholding in Swansea City Football Club, potentially helping the trust to acquire the loans it might need to reach the clubs future valuation, if we can cement ourselves once again as a top half premier league side with a good academy”

My personal preference is just to leave Birch to it and I’m hoping that there’s no further off field drama to distract from job the club have to do in the fixture list.
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at 15:39 6 Sep 2018

Thanks and remember one thing to make yourself feel a bit better about this. Our success will be their success and vice versa. If they get a good return on their investment it'll be because they elevate us to a higher standard.
I wish we had more talented owners, but I don't think we have dishonest ones. Clowns, not thieves.
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at 15:37 6 Sep 2018

Agree with this Hammy. Our real point of difference though is that we have brought in a fantastic on field manager and his team) and we've invested in great facilities that'll help us attract good players in the coming years. I don't know much about our academy but its starting to feel like it's yielding some serious talent!
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at 15:34 6 Sep 2018

You really can't boil down my original post in to a two liner like that. Not accurately anyway.
Sincerely, I'm not perfect and I don't expect I can bring about Planet Swans peace in my time. Right, Wrong or indifferent, these were just my words right now.

By the way, since you bring it up, let me clarify for anyone that didn't know that a very high volume of US businesses are registered in Delaware (as well as Nevada). I myself have worked with a founder who registered his creative services business in Delaware even though he'd never set foot in the state. I suspect Levein and Kaplan have never been to Delaware either! However, this is nothing unusual.
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at 22:44 5 Sep 2018

yes that is correct. I must say though - while this is common, I do not know if it applies in this scenario. It was more just food for thought to supplement your earlier comment about majority shareholders not having absolute dictatorship rights in this relationship (in other words)
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at 22:40 5 Sep 2018

This! It's so nice to read an objective analysis of the symptom. Whether we like it or not, it's important to understand the problem.

Leighton - I mentioned in my original post that I'd love to see the Supporters Trust eventually get to a point where they are dominant share holders of the club. I say eventually, because I wouldn't want this to happen in a 'burn the house down and start again' scenario. It would be good if they could raise the funds necessary to buy the club from the Americans in a few years once their original investment has been restored. Do you (or anyone else) have any thoughts on this?
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at 22:36 5 Sep 2018

Thumbs up! Thanks Lisa.
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at 22:29 5 Sep 2018

Technically anything can be agreed but think about how motions are brought up and passed. They are passed by the majority. The entire rule book can be re-written by the majority given enough board meetings.

Also, it's quite typical that in the event that any shareholders have injected debt (which the Americans have) that voting rights can be changed until such debt is paid back. This is fairly routine if any portion of a debt is not being recalled on-time.
I've had first had experience with minority ownership VC's who had dominant shareholder rights temporarily, until monies are re-paid.
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at 22:25 5 Sep 2018

HI Lisa,
Forgive my ignorance if what I'm about to say is stupid. But If my house is worth 500k and I have a 360k mortgage added to it's value, that would make my house worth 860k. Hence why I chose different language in my post. Please feel fee to correct me if I'm off.
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at 22:13 5 Sep 2018

yes I get your gist.
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at 22:10 5 Sep 2018

Agree with all of this. my gut is that the debt from transfers is all on the cashflow schedule for the next 3 years (thats the meaning of taking our hard medicine now)

Their stance will be to get the valuation up and the debt gone within 3 years. It's 5 years from the start of their investment which is a very common landmark for VC's to exit.
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at 22:06 5 Sep 2018

fair point. I forgot to mention the house might have a mortgage on it and that needs be be deducted from the value.
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at 22:03 5 Sep 2018

You're just a google away from figuring it out for yourself. The challenge will be interpreting it in a way that applies to SCFC's current situation so that you can objectively understand the transfer dealings. My response was to boil it down to layman's terms. I think I did a pretty good job but of course, you're entitled to your opinion.

It's difficult to reason with someone who stated the club is "worthless" less than an hour ago, on this thread.
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