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By the way, if you want a REAL example of a politician being racist, educate yourself a little about the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. The legacy of this act was that it TRIPLED the number of African American men in prison, often for ridiculous reasons.
It was a terrible law, yet it survived the Clinton, GWB, and Obama administrations with no trouble, and no questioning from any previous POTUS.
Only under the TRUMP administration has this idiotic, racist law been somewhat, due largely to the President Trump's tireless efforts (see the First Step Act).
And who wrote that 1994 law, you may ask? Some racist Republican? Right on the first part, but not the 2nd. It was a (relatively) young racist Democrat Senator named Joe Biden.
what an embarrassment to be associated with somebody like you as an american on this board. everything you post is so seething with partisanship it’s truly sickening. this is how people act in cults, unable to think freely. this is america in a nutshell. bless.
what an embarrassment to be associated with somebody like you as an american on this board. everything you post is so seething with partisanship it’s truly sickening. this is how people act in cults, unable to think freely. this is america in a nutshell. bless.
Far removed from socialism, very far removed. About as far away as centre right politics is from Nazis.
Wow!
You know nothing. Educate yourself son, you have the world's library at your fingertips. The Soviet Union was a union of Socialist states. It was the first time the intellectual ideas of Socialists were put into practice. Communism was the end goal. The idea was that 'eventually our union of Socialist states can achieve Communism together...over decades, a century, more'.
How'd that go exactly?
...but for f*ck's sake, don't take my word for this Ebo. Do some reading yourself. Just type in the question; 'What is Socialism?' ...start reading and trace the ideas back to it's source. Then read about how these ideas were spread and what the results were for the parts of the world which put these ideas into practice. You could spend a lifetime studying this, it is fascinating, and only a cretin could conclude that Socialist states were better for people, for humanity, than the core ideas at the heart of Western civilisation. Only a cretin.
You know nothing. Educate yourself son, you have the world's library at your fingertips. The Soviet Union was a union of Socialist states. It was the first time the intellectual ideas of Socialists were put into practice. Communism was the end goal. The idea was that 'eventually our union of Socialist states can achieve Communism together...over decades, a century, more'.
How'd that go exactly?
...but for f*ck's sake, don't take my word for this Ebo. Do some reading yourself. Just type in the question; 'What is Socialism?' ...start reading and trace the ideas back to it's source. Then read about how these ideas were spread and what the results were for the parts of the world which put these ideas into practice. You could spend a lifetime studying this, it is fascinating, and only a cretin could conclude that Socialist states were better for people, for humanity, than the core ideas at the heart of Western civilisation. Only a cretin.
About as socialist as when Hitler hoodwinked the nation with his 'socialist' party.
You really do talk some bollocks.
Log off for the day before you give yourself an aneurism from being terminally twp.
Recognise any of it you f*cking ignoramus. In a way, National Socialism was a reaction to the rise of 'Communism' in Germany following the Russian revolution at the end of WWI. It stole many of the Communist's clothes. Get yourself an education before you adopt political ideologies is my advice.
The S word didn't take long. There is an avalanche coming Tummer and it's going to be heavy.
Going to be?
Lol k thx.
If one thing should be clear by now, I'm not really all that bothered by insults, personal attacks, etc.
Ok I admit being called racist is the one thing that bothers me, when I've always lived life as quite the opposite of one, and continue to do so. But in this thread the rationale has been so weak, that even the multiple times I've been called that in the last five pages is no big deal.
And by the way, the only reason I even posted on this thread was because I was called one by Ace on Page 1. Sorry, but not sorry for defending myself.
It’s f*cking horrible. Davillin is probably in his eighties by now, hasn’t posted on here for quite a few years yet people still think it’s ok to call him a racist.
He’s been very kind to me. It’s a great shame he doesn’t post on here any more.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
By the way, if you want a REAL example of a politician being racist, educate yourself a little about the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. The legacy of this act was that it TRIPLED the number of African American men in prison, often for ridiculous reasons.
It was a terrible law, yet it survived the Clinton, GWB, and Obama administrations with no trouble, and no questioning from any previous POTUS.
Only under the TRUMP administration has this idiotic, racist law been somewhat, due largely to the President Trump's tireless efforts (see the First Step Act).
And who wrote that 1994 law, you may ask? Some racist Republican? Right on the first part, but not the 2nd. It was a (relatively) young racist Democrat Senator named Joe Biden.
This is what fox news, linbagh, Alex Jones and breitbart has done to gullable people
So none of our resident Socialists want to talk about farming in the Soviet Union. Surprising.
To the that the person who has recently discovered he is a Commie, you must have a lot of time on your hands, how about you read up on it and share your wisdom you f*cking muppet.
So none of our resident Socialists want to talk about farming in the Soviet Union. Surprising.
To the that the person who has recently discovered he is a Commie, you must have a lot of time on your hands, how about you read up on it and share your wisdom you f*cking muppet.
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You can have whatever views you want but don’t post where people work.
As you were.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
If one thing should be clear by now, I'm not really all that bothered by insults, personal attacks, etc.
Ok I admit being called racist is the one thing that bothers me, when I've always lived life as quite the opposite of one, and continue to do so. But in this thread the rationale has been so weak, that even the multiple times I've been called that in the last five pages is no big deal.
And by the way, the only reason I even posted on this thread was because I was called one by Ace on Page 1. Sorry, but not sorry for defending myself.
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I'm happy to call you a racist again on page 5. For an anti racist you sure love retweeting lots of racists.
Racism in your country existed before Trump and it will continue on as long as people like you don't change. Morons like yourself act for specifics and dismiss them because you don't like whats being said, yet you gleefully hold up single actions like they absolve patterns of horrific behaviour because that's what simple, basic racists do. They blow their own cover.
They will never admit to it though, they will sail as close to being outright racist as they can, but very rarely stepping over the line. Modern day racists are a clever bunch, or so they think anyway.
They're normally misogynists as well, you'll find them in threads about Dianne Abbott and sexual crime threads. That is where they are at their happiest.
I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
They will never admit to it though, they will sail as close to being outright racist as they can, but very rarely stepping over the line. Modern day racists are a clever bunch, or so they think anyway.
They're normally misogynists as well, you'll find them in threads about Dianne Abbott and sexual crime threads. That is where they are at their happiest.
Personally speaking I’m at my happiest working in the garden but, hands up, any mention of Diane Abbott makes me laugh.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
I'm happy to call you a racist again on page 5. For an anti racist you sure love retweeting lots of racists.
Racism in your country existed before Trump and it will continue on as long as people like you don't change. Morons like yourself act for specifics and dismiss them because you don't like whats being said, yet you gleefully hold up single actions like they absolve patterns of horrific behaviour because that's what simple, basic racists do. They blow their own cover.
Yes Tummer, how dare you ask for specifics when somebody accuses you of being a racist...the cheek of it!
Never did get any response to the figures quoted by Mr. Elder on this (around 25mins or so into this video)…
Again Ace, I'm more than happy to listen to any evidence you want to present to counter his argument. I am open to being persuaded.
...but if you can't counter his argument it would appear, once again, that what this is really about is politics. Persuade me/us Ace, and yes I require specifics and data.
Yeah very sad but that’s the way these Liberal sorts are today. They don't class abusing people as abusing people anymore. Hideous it is.
There’s nothing liberal about them Dar. They are not at all tolerant of any views apart from their own. They like to portray themselves as the righteous good guys, yet they are completely oblivious that the rest of the world just sees them as nasty little cowards.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Yes Tummer, how dare you ask for specifics when somebody accuses you of being a racist...the cheek of it!
Never did get any response to the figures quoted by Mr. Elder on this (around 25mins or so into this video)…
Again Ace, I'm more than happy to listen to any evidence you want to present to counter his argument. I am open to being persuaded.
...but if you can't counter his argument it would appear, once again, that what this is really about is politics. Persuade me/us Ace, and yes I require specifics and data.
I've given plenty of specifics.
1) disingenuous at best to suggest that black on black violence isn't treated as a serious issue in black communities.
2) police don't have to shoot unarmed black men to kill them as we've seen with George Floyd, nor is police violence towards minorities all about deaths.
3) ludicrous red herring to frame the argument around police racism around inner city black violence.
People are protesting on the streets because of the systemic racism they face every day. The Minneapolis police have a long history of it.
That doesn't disappear because you posted a video from Dave Rubin. That's just a convenient shield for you to hold up so you can feel comfortable in your ignorance, a bit like when Tummer tweets about Trump closing down travel with China and hes doing a great job fighting coronavirus because of this one thing you can hold up and say look at this.
I've no interest debating professional goal post movers who lie about their intentions and motivations for forum clout (lib dem lol), nor am i interested in being nice to racists, or people who set their standard of civility at a level where you have to be nice to racists.
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