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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report 16:09 - Nov 5 with 5976 viewsNorthernr

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 16:57 - Nov 5 with 5690 viewsOldPedro

Good report - I live 'up north' so I've been to both the Huddersfield and Rotherham games. I was amazed at the difference between the two performances in terms of the team looking like they knew what they were trying to do as well as the style of football. I couldn't believe how much MC had managed to get over to the team in just a few days.

I feel much more optimistic after yesterday although I agree with Clive's point that we look short of goals and MC needs to find ways for different players to chip in.

Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 17:53 - Nov 5 with 5402 viewsdaveB

We had a spell just after the goal of sustained possession and creating chances that I genuinely haven't seen since Beale was here. needed to get that second goal but i left quite happy with how we played and how we finished the game strongly.

Keep playing like that and results will come
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 17:53 - Nov 5 with 5398 viewsBrianMcCarthy

I have to admit that when I read the first few paragraphs I thought that you were being slightly over-cautious, if not reserved in your praise for what I'd thought was a positive day.

But, by the end of it (and I read it again), I think you nailed a correct tone of cautious optimism.

Thanks, as ever.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:15 - Nov 5 with 5320 viewsE15Hoop

I, like quite a few of us, feel suitably chastened and humbled by our support for Senor Cifuentes' predecessor, given how much more like an actual team our lot already looked yesterday.

The thing I like most about MC is that he already speaks with a well-balanced authority which you know means that the players won't be able to slack off or not stick 100% to the gameplan if they actually want to have any kind of the future with the club. In additon, his track record in Sweden and Norway should give the players the confidence to see that he clearly knows what he's talking about.

Elijah Dixon-Bonner's performance was a substantial plus, as we haven't had a player who really dominates that central midfield position and is mobile for so long, I can't even think of who he reminds me of.

Suddenly we look something like we should look again with the talent and experience we have in this squad, but like you said, Clive, we're going to have to reap the benefits of this quickly AND hope that 3 teams implode at the same time, which looks like at least one wish too many. The more realistic hope is that Senor Cifuentes sticks around next season, as that will give us a puncher's chance of ripping through League One at the first attempt.
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:25 - Nov 5 with 5263 viewsNorthernr

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 17:53 - Nov 5 by BrianMcCarthy

I have to admit that when I read the first few paragraphs I thought that you were being slightly over-cautious, if not reserved in your praise for what I'd thought was a positive day.

But, by the end of it (and I read it again), I think you nailed a correct tone of cautious optimism.

Thanks, as ever.


His post match on the club site is spot on for tone and content IMO.
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:31 - Nov 5 with 5223 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:15 - Nov 5 by E15Hoop

I, like quite a few of us, feel suitably chastened and humbled by our support for Senor Cifuentes' predecessor, given how much more like an actual team our lot already looked yesterday.

The thing I like most about MC is that he already speaks with a well-balanced authority which you know means that the players won't be able to slack off or not stick 100% to the gameplan if they actually want to have any kind of the future with the club. In additon, his track record in Sweden and Norway should give the players the confidence to see that he clearly knows what he's talking about.

Elijah Dixon-Bonner's performance was a substantial plus, as we haven't had a player who really dominates that central midfield position and is mobile for so long, I can't even think of who he reminds me of.

Suddenly we look something like we should look again with the talent and experience we have in this squad, but like you said, Clive, we're going to have to reap the benefits of this quickly AND hope that 3 teams implode at the same time, which looks like at least one wish too many. The more realistic hope is that Senor Cifuentes sticks around next season, as that will give us a puncher's chance of ripping through League One at the first attempt.


Ripping through League One?

Bollocks to that.

It's the 5th November. Sorry, E15 I think you're a great poster, genuinely, and I admired your enthusiasm for Ainsworth and also your tactical posts about how it didn't work out.

But. We're not in League One, and shouldn't talk about it.

We have to win two games more than the fourth-worst team in this division. A very poor division. Two games. That's all.

I'm not getting carried away with the improvement in our performance because I know nothing about Cifuentes, but yesterday was a good day. Yesterday we dropped two points from a winning position, but we found a way to play that suited our squad.

We're back in this.

League One?
Naaaaaah...

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:40 - Nov 5 with 5173 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:25 - Nov 5 by Northernr

His post match on the club site is spot on for tone and content IMO.


I agree.

The line you quoted from him “the other teams will not wait for us” is a great line.
It doesn't tell players they're good, that they're bad, that they're unlucky, that they deserve more, or less, or pity...it's a simple truth.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Poll: Player of the Year (so far)

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:41 - Nov 5 with 5168 viewsdaveB

some winnable ones coming up imo

Britstol City, Hull, Stoke and Plymouth at home
Norwich, Preston and Sheff Wed away

Southampton, Millwall and Ipswich over Christmas is tough but after that we have 4 home games in a row

Should be looking to pull away by the end of February before we start playing the top teams again
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 19:43 - Nov 5 with 4872 viewsTK1

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:41 - Nov 5 by daveB

some winnable ones coming up imo

Britstol City, Hull, Stoke and Plymouth at home
Norwich, Preston and Sheff Wed away

Southampton, Millwall and Ipswich over Christmas is tough but after that we have 4 home games in a row

Should be looking to pull away by the end of February before we start playing the top teams again


Agree with that. Get some home wins and a couple of draws from that next batch up to xmas and be clicking (and lucky with injuries) for that January home month which is the key to the season really.
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 19:44 - Nov 5 with 4852 viewsE15Hoop

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:31 - Nov 5 by BrianMcCarthy

Ripping through League One?

Bollocks to that.

It's the 5th November. Sorry, E15 I think you're a great poster, genuinely, and I admired your enthusiasm for Ainsworth and also your tactical posts about how it didn't work out.

But. We're not in League One, and shouldn't talk about it.

We have to win two games more than the fourth-worst team in this division. A very poor division. Two games. That's all.

I'm not getting carried away with the improvement in our performance because I know nothing about Cifuentes, but yesterday was a good day. Yesterday we dropped two points from a winning position, but we found a way to play that suited our squad.

We're back in this.

League One?
Naaaaaah...


Thanks for your kind words, Brian. Much appreciated, having taken some substantial stick for sticking up for GA at the start of the year in particular.

Nice touch to see the concern for him on one of the other threads.

Given your history of well-balanced viewpoints that speak of wisdom gained through years of measured analysis, I'm going to let myself be swept along with your energy and optimism.

I heard Jed Wallace on 5Live early last week telling Marti Cifuentes how highly he rates both Ilias Chair and Chris Willock, and its less than 3 years since we were beating Brentford with a team that had Field, Dykes, Willock and Chair in it.

I guess you're right -theoretically there's no reason why we can't get a run going. When you look at how fair we're behind Huddersfield at the moment though and th fact that our goal difference is so miserable, it just feels like we're about to start a 100m dash having given the rest of the division a 30m head start.
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 19:48 - Nov 5 with 4836 viewsMick_S

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 19:44 - Nov 5 by E15Hoop

Thanks for your kind words, Brian. Much appreciated, having taken some substantial stick for sticking up for GA at the start of the year in particular.

Nice touch to see the concern for him on one of the other threads.

Given your history of well-balanced viewpoints that speak of wisdom gained through years of measured analysis, I'm going to let myself be swept along with your energy and optimism.

I heard Jed Wallace on 5Live early last week telling Marti Cifuentes how highly he rates both Ilias Chair and Chris Willock, and its less than 3 years since we were beating Brentford with a team that had Field, Dykes, Willock and Chair in it.

I guess you're right -theoretically there's no reason why we can't get a run going. When you look at how fair we're behind Huddersfield at the moment though and th fact that our goal difference is so miserable, it just feels like we're about to start a 100m dash having given the rest of the division a 30m head start.


I think we are going to be ok. We have hope now. Two weeks ago we all knew where we were going.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 20:22 - Nov 5 with 4653 viewsdixiedean

Dave, you overlook one thing : since when have we won “ winnable games “? !
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 20:46 - Nov 5 with 4520 viewsterryb

Cheers Clive,

The result is more important than the performance this week, but hopefully an improvement in the latter will give us a win!

My only disagreement with the report (from watching the last 60 minutes on a stream!) is that I don't think you've given the Rotherham 'keeper enough credit for the save from Dixon-Bonner.

My first reaction was the same as your's, but every time I've seen it since it get's better!
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 21:15 - Nov 5 with 4383 viewsbenhurst

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 20:46 - Nov 5 by terryb

Cheers Clive,

The result is more important than the performance this week, but hopefully an improvement in the latter will give us a win!

My only disagreement with the report (from watching the last 60 minutes on a stream!) is that I don't think you've given the Rotherham 'keeper enough credit for the save from Dixon-Bonner.

My first reaction was the same as your's, but every time I've seen it since it get's better!


On a similar note - for Kelman's chance at the end he doesn't actually touch the ball, it goes off the defender (again very good reactions from the keeper!)
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 08:30 - Nov 6 with 3521 viewsRs_Holy

the 'El Crapico'
.... love it (that brightened up my Monday morning).
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 09:36 - Nov 6 with 3304 viewsTheChef

Monday morning, the sun is shining, and QPR didn't lose.

Agreed that we're a team lacking goals, but we're also a team that coughs up soft ones. If we can tighten up at the back and maybe get a clean sheet or two, that would help. The George Graham approach and all that.

I mean right now I'd happily take ten 1-0 wins although that might not be great for everyone's stress levels.

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 10:55 - Nov 6 with 3074 viewscpgerber

Were there signs/hope of us getting back our old Willock?
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 11:35 - Nov 6 with 2949 viewsQPROslo

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 10:55 - Nov 6 by cpgerber

Were there signs/hope of us getting back our old Willock?


From the stream I thought he did ok holding the ball and linking play, but got the impression he is lacking that spring, snap, acceleration which together with his skill and strength enabled him to go past and away from defenders and put in very decent shots on goal from distance before his last hamstring injury. Don't know if he can get that back again?
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 12:01 - Nov 6 with 2863 viewsParkRoyalR

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 11:35 - Nov 6 by QPROslo

From the stream I thought he did ok holding the ball and linking play, but got the impression he is lacking that spring, snap, acceleration which together with his skill and strength enabled him to go past and away from defenders and put in very decent shots on goal from distance before his last hamstring injury. Don't know if he can get that back again?


Saw older brother Joe score a couple of decent goals in recent weeks, one thing they share is an unerring ability to shoot accurately from distant and find the corner of the net, this is what we have missed the most in his absence, athough Chair replicated this on Saturday.
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 12:20 - Nov 6 with 2775 viewsQPunkR

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 11:35 - Nov 6 by QPROslo

From the stream I thought he did ok holding the ball and linking play, but got the impression he is lacking that spring, snap, acceleration which together with his skill and strength enabled him to go past and away from defenders and put in very decent shots on goal from distance before his last hamstring injury. Don't know if he can get that back again?


I thought it was interesting how Martí seemingly played him in a deeper role. Whether that's because that's where he sees him best used or because he doesn't have that snap and acceleration until he gets match fit, it will be interesting to see.

QPR - "shit but local"

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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 18:35 - Nov 6 with 2171 viewsDeanoMD

Yeah we were definitely less shite but we couldn't score in a brothel, Dykes was awful and a waste of space, surprised he didn't get taken off earlier.

Other teams won't be as wasteful as Rotherham, we are in huge trouble still and need a few wins quickly....
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Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 05:08 - Nov 7 with 1754 viewsSydneyRs

Chair's brilliance starts Cifuentes off with a point - Report on 11:35 - Nov 6 by QPROslo

From the stream I thought he did ok holding the ball and linking play, but got the impression he is lacking that spring, snap, acceleration which together with his skill and strength enabled him to go past and away from defenders and put in very decent shots on goal from distance before his last hamstring injury. Don't know if he can get that back again?


Maybe with a few games and match fitness, we will see. He'll be playing for his future, so if he wants to attract bidders he's going to need to perform.
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