| Migrant/Refugee crisis 11:04 - Sep 4 with 56299 views | Deano19766 |
Just a thought on this subject which is all over the news saying we are a disgrace and should do more to help -
Oxford English Dictionary definition of Refugee - "A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster". So when a person flees their country for those reasons they are a refugee (and that is of course a terrible thing to happen to anyone and is yet another sad fact about humanity as a species). However, it could (and should) then be implied that once a 'refugee' passes through a 'safe' country then (s)he is no longer a refugee but a migrant, and most likely a migrant for economic reasons. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but all this rhetoric about taking in 'refugees' is completely misguided or a (deliberate?) misinterpretation of the facts IMO. If people wish to show their support for accommodating these people then that is of course their prerogative, but they should at least be clear that that they support accommodating 'economic migrants' as opposed to 'refugees' (although that would be far less sensationalist and may not suit their agenda). |  | | |  |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 12:57 - Sep 14 with 1885 views | Doughnut |
Very well expressed. The sooner the population of this country free themselves from the fear of being branded racist the better. It is the big stick the pc brigade have used to bully and get their own way for the last 20 years. Facist laws enacted by the group formally known as the Labour party, have removed any sense of free speech in this country. And the present lot are nearly as bad. So I can understand peoples reticence to express their true views on unfettered imigration.
One merely has to luck at the present chaos in Europe to see the result of allowing the socialist madmen of the European Union, their own way. Countries who formerly signed up to Schengen are now slowly backtracking because of the panick caused by our left-wing 'friends' lunatic theories on ethnic engineering. |  | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 13:00 - Sep 14 with 1872 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 12:54 - Sep 14 by ganjR |
You like to make snidey remarks from behind a keyboard and feel good about it. I don't like that, I also don't like you trying to get involved in something that you don't seem to comprehend either.
I have said, lets leave it, but you carry on and the call me aggressive? Well I feel aggressive now, thanks, and would like to meet to discuss this as you seem to have such a low opinion of me, maybe I can change those opinions in person?
Don't get snidey online please. |
There you go again "in person" Snidey ???
Some people may take that as some kind of threat, being aggressive.
You are correct, my opinion of you lows post by post. |  |
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| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 13:01 - Sep 14 with 1869 views | jamois |
"Far from being propelled by economic migrants, this crisis is mostly about refugees. The assumption by many is that the majority of those trying to reach Europe are fleeing poverty, which is not considered by the international community as a good enough reason to move to another country. Whereas in fact, by the end of July, 62% of those who had reached Europe by boat this year were from Syria, Eritrea and Afghanistan, according to figures compiled by the UN. These are countries torn apart by war, dictatorial oppression, and religious extremism — and, in Syria’s case, all three. Their citizens almost always have the legal right to refuge in Europe. And if you add to the mix those coming from Darfur, Iraq, Somalia, and some parts of Nigeria — then the total proportion of migrants likely to qualify for asylum rises to well over 70%."
Not my words mind. |  |
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| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 13:02 - Sep 14 with 1864 views | ganjR |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 13:00 - Sep 14 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
There you go again "in person" Snidey ???
Some people may take that as some kind of threat, being aggressive.
You are correct, my opinion of you lows post by post. |
Take it how you want.
Your opinion lows with every post? Your first interaction with me was to have a dig at me, so can't see how that works.... |  | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:07 - Sep 14 with 1819 views | WilloW4 |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 13:02 - Sep 14 by ganjR |
Take it how you want.
Your opinion lows with every post? Your first interaction with me was to have a dig at me, so can't see how that works.... |
Can't you pair just PM each other. And have done with it?! |  | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:09 - Sep 14 with 1816 views | ganjR |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:07 - Sep 14 by WilloW4 |
Can't you pair just PM each other. And have done with it?! |
We had left it for over an hour. Why you bringing it back up? | | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:11 - Sep 14 with 1812 views | WilloW4 |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:09 - Sep 14 by ganjR |
We had left it for over an hour. Why you bringing it back up? |
Coz id just read it all..nice sweet cup of tea and a biscuit.. My auntie swore by it. | | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:14 - Sep 14 with 1805 views | ganjR |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:11 - Sep 14 by WilloW4 |
Coz id just read it all..nice sweet cup of tea and a biscuit.. My auntie swore by it. |
Did you stir your tea too? | | | |
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| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:15 - Sep 14 with 1804 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Do us a favour Clive and put this tired thread out of it's misery. |  | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:23 - Sep 14 with 1788 views | WilloW4 |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:14 - Sep 14 by ganjR |
Did you stir your tea too? |
Oh dear. 2 sugars well stirred. | | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:25 - Sep 14 with 1781 views | ganjR |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:15 - Sep 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Do us a favour Clive and put this tired thread out of it's misery. |
I think I'm gonna leave this site alone from now on.
Posted on here and it's previous incarnations since 2005, on and off and it just winds me up these days.
A lot of the people I know and like stopped posting ages ago and it only seems to be a minority who don't spend their time taking great pleasure in any failings that Ramsey has or spouting right wing propaganda.
All free choices, but just not what I originally signed up for.
I apologise for my part in making this thread as tedious as all the other political / religious ones that have been on here before.
Peace. | | | |
| Migrant/Refugee crisis on 14:43 - Sep 14 with 1754 views | Northernr |
Locking this now. Reasonable discussion for a the first few pages, then artificially bumped up to the top of the board over and over again by people desperate to use this message board to sound off on immigration and now, as usual, descending into personal arguments. |  | | |
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