| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... 13:58 - May 9 with 106784 views | hubble |
..posted by a good friend of mine on Facebook, thought I'd share it on here. He's a former professional footballer (briefly for Birmingham City) and a former copper, working mainly out of Camden police station. He grew up in Kilburn/Queens Park. He's now a writer (among other things).
Worth a read I think, hope you enjoy, whether you agree with him or not, even when he veers off-topic...
"Thoughts of the Week (part 1)
Let’s start with a subheading. ‘Dear, oh dear Diane Abbot!’
In the upcoming General Election campaign and apart from the ‘Leader’ (no, not Gary Glitter) no one is more important for the Labour Party campaign than the Shadow Home Secretary. Why’s this? You ask.
The reason is obvious: Theresa May —the strong woman, Ms subtle, but steely - was the former Home Secretary. A position which she used to inflict near terminal ravages of the nation’s police forces. Under her auspices we saw numbers cut, benefits cut and police stations closed willy-nilly to cash in, short-term, on the booming (especially in London) property market.
The short-sightedness of this policy is astounding. No matter the so-called austerity budget (which only seems to apply to the working classes, while the privileged elite continue to live the life of Riley) the question must be asked as to what will happen when there’s some serious social unrest — and you can feel it stirring. Remember 2011 when the riots broke out? We had anarchy and nihilism on the streets and the police force didn’t cope with it at all. Instead we had a grand mopping up campaign. Suddenly all those poor silly students who had been demonised as hard-core criminals after they smashed the windows of the Tory HQ — and received ridiculously harsh prison sentences for what were in the main first offences - were kicked out of the pokey and replaced by the new batch of rioters. The Criminal Justice system ground to a halt, the prison’s overflowed. The courts were as ram-jam packed as a back-in-the-day David Rodigan dance. In response what did the great Theresa May do? She further decimated the police force. She did the same to the prison service. The vaunted Border Force, our first defence, is comically short of manpower and morale as they attempt to hire staff on Mickey-Mouse contracts. Labour should be slaughtering Theresa May on what she’s done. Instead we got that car crash of an interview on LBC.
To be honest I resisted calls to listen to it for a time. Some of my more right-leaning pals were raving about it, but I thought they were overreacting due to a general contempt for the Hackney MP. I was wrong. When I actually got round to listening to it I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. It was stunningly incompetent, mind-blowingly nonsensical, embarrassing and shocking. Is this the Shadow Home Secretary who’s going to lead the challenge to Theresa May’s record? She should have stood down immediately and if not the great leader should have forced her hand, no matter past rendezvous in the sack. Of course it didn’t happen and Labour under Jeremy Corbyn has no hope in this election. What a shame it all is because there are loads of issues that they should be taking the government to task on. Just look at that bumbling Tommy Cooper impersonator of a Foreign Secretary, a million miles removed from a serious statesman: Mr Retraction — an embarrassment to the nation.
I’m voting Labour in the coming election, but not for Jeremy, more for the thought of the millions of people who are going to suffer under the coming five years of Tory rule: the working men and women who haven’t seen their wages rise, in real terms, for the last thirty years, while the fat cats, sharks and speculators are minted; the students starting out life saddled with debt; the millions who’ll never be able to afford a home; and in honour of the National Health Service, soon to be dismantled further, but remaining the brightest light in the nation’s modern history. What a rotten, unfair and unbalanced society we’ve become.
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:21 - Jun 7 with 1494 views | FDC |
It's surely no coincidence that May has held private meetings with Dacre, they've dropped the Leverson inquiry, and now these kinds of front pages. [Post edited 7 Jun 2017 13:23]
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:23 - Jun 7 with 1489 views | stevec |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:08 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Proudly plagiarized
Let's say a Labour Party leader had been at the heart of government for seven years and overseen massive cuts to the police force, despite countless warnings that they were neglecting their primary duty to protect public safety.
And then just days before a general election a terrorist atrocity is carried out by an Islamist fanatic who was so well know they'd even been featured in a bloody TV programme called "The Jihadis Next Door".
Do you think the S*n, Daily Mail and Express would do absolutely nothing to hold this Labour leader to account for their shockingly lax attitude towards public safety, and instead concentrate all of their efforts on smearing the Conservative opposition leader as a last ditch propaganda effort to keep the negligent Labour leader in power?
Of course they wouldn't. They'd be (rightly) calling for the negligent leader to resign on their front pages.
The fact that they're not lifting a finger to hold Theresa May to account is absolute proof that they think she is totally beyond accountability, in the same way they think they're above accountability too when they do stuff like hack into the mobile phone of a murdered teenage girl and give the parents false hope that she's still alive (Theresa May's manifesto includes a promise to throw the Leveson Report into press corruption in the bin).
It's a shame on our nation that so many people still read these despicable propaganda rag |
You'll be surprised by this but not only do I read them I move my lips at the same time. |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:27 - Jun 7 with 1466 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:16 - Jun 7 by QPR_Jim |
I agree with you about 95% of politicians, although I would say that "duplicitous, self serving, greedy dipsticks" is being too polite. I also agree that it's the same both sides, all parties etc. But I find this makes me more determined to have them held to account, to cut through their BS and try to find someone worthy of being in office.
To that end, that's why I will vote Labour, mainly because my local reasons such as the candidate and because our local Tory council has decided to cut pre-schools for 3-4 year olds to fund a festival that they hope will attract tourism and be a benefit for local businesses. Why the feck those benefiting from it aren't paying for it is beyond me but tomorrow is a chance to send them a message.
But when you look at Corbyn and how a brief period of forced impartiality from the media due to the election campaign has coincided with his surge in the polls, it shows how we are not allowed impartiality most of the time. Now they've come out to attack him again today knowing the damage will be done and votes lost for Labour tomorrow with a fine and little else action coming later. Whether you're voting Labour tomorrow or not I think you should be concerned about how much influence the likes of Murdock have still over our democracy. It relates to why Abbot is mocked while Boris is referred to warmly as bumbling, it's not about race to me more political bias. |
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:29 - Jun 7 with 1453 views | FredManRave |
I'm sure Diane Abbott will be good on I'm A Celebrity...
When she gets better of course... |  |
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:30 - Jun 7 with 1452 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:23 - Jun 7 by stevec |
You'll be surprised by this but not only do I read them I move my lips at the same time. |
No surprise at all I've seen your photo
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:30 - Jun 7 with 1451 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:21 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Yeah because you are devoid of anything to debate about
I've yet to see a post on here that gives reason to vote tory outside attacking labour in the same way the tory press is. apart from the true tory who wanted more cuts and did not give a feck about anyone else
Go back to reading the Sun [Post edited 7 Jun 2017 13:22]
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I don't read the Sun.
Why would I need to when I can read your wonderful posts. |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:32 - Jun 7 with 1445 views | BucksRanger |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:12 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
You are wasting your time arguing with him mate. |
I know I am Jack but sometimes you just have to point out the crap that is posted here.
Anyway, it's just my bigger amygdala vs. his larger anterior cingulate. The design of our brains has more to do with the way we vote than our upbringing... unless, of course, our upbringing impacted upon the design of our brains.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/dec/28/political-allegiances-brain-str |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:37 - Jun 7 with 1422 views | JamesB1979 |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:16 - Jun 7 by QPR_Jim |
I agree with you about 95% of politicians, although I would say that "duplicitous, self serving, greedy dipsticks" is being too polite. I also agree that it's the same both sides, all parties etc. But I find this makes me more determined to have them held to account, to cut through their BS and try to find someone worthy of being in office.
To that end, that's why I will vote Labour, mainly because my local reasons such as the candidate and because our local Tory council has decided to cut pre-schools for 3-4 year olds to fund a festival that they hope will attract tourism and be a benefit for local businesses. Why the feck those benefiting from it aren't paying for it is beyond me but tomorrow is a chance to send them a message.
But when you look at Corbyn and how a brief period of forced impartiality from the media due to the election campaign has coincided with his surge in the polls, it shows how we are not allowed impartiality most of the time. Now they've come out to attack him again today knowing the damage will be done and votes lost for Labour tomorrow with a fine and little else action coming later. Whether you're voting Labour tomorrow or not I think you should be concerned about how much influence the likes of Murdock have still over our democracy. It relates to why Abbot is mocked while Boris is referred to warmly as bumbling, it's not about race to me more political bias. |
Fair points made here Jim. I think the press should be allowed to express an opinion, it's just that Mail, Sun, Express outweigh the Mirror. I do think the broadsheets do tend to be more balanced.
I was originally going to vote Lib Dem but have tactically changed my mind in last 2 weeks. Main reason being the corporation tax hike combined with removal of zero hours contracts and increase in minimum wage. The latter 1 is a good aim and we should try to increase this minimum wage over time. However, to me these 3 together will hit small businesses and low paid workers the most. With increased tax and cost caused by these policies, what will small businesses (and large ones for that matter) do? Take the hit? Decrease more well paid staff? Or reduce number of lower paid staff? I think they will take option 3. That's why I've decided to vote Tory tomorrow. I don't like May, I"m pro EU, I want income tax rate increased for all (LIb Dem policy) to fund public services but in my constituency Lib Dem is a wasted vote. |  | | |
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:37 - Jun 7 with 1416 views | stowmarketrange |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:16 - Jun 7 by QPR_Jim |
I agree with you about 95% of politicians, although I would say that "duplicitous, self serving, greedy dipsticks" is being too polite. I also agree that it's the same both sides, all parties etc. But I find this makes me more determined to have them held to account, to cut through their BS and try to find someone worthy of being in office.
To that end, that's why I will vote Labour, mainly because my local reasons such as the candidate and because our local Tory council has decided to cut pre-schools for 3-4 year olds to fund a festival that they hope will attract tourism and be a benefit for local businesses. Why the feck those benefiting from it aren't paying for it is beyond me but tomorrow is a chance to send them a message.
But when you look at Corbyn and how a brief period of forced impartiality from the media due to the election campaign has coincided with his surge in the polls, it shows how we are not allowed impartiality most of the time. Now they've come out to attack him again today knowing the damage will be done and votes lost for Labour tomorrow with a fine and little else action coming later. Whether you're voting Labour tomorrow or not I think you should be concerned about how much influence the likes of Murdock have still over our democracy. It relates to why Abbot is mocked while Boris is referred to warmly as bumbling, it's not about race to me more political bias. |
What a surprise.The rich and powerful twisting the truth to ensure that nothing changes and they continue to get richer and more powerful.
The sad thing for me is that ordinary working people struggling to survive believe those lies and keep voting for more of the same. |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:42 - Jun 7 with 1399 views | paulparker |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:30 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
I don't read the Sun.
Why would I need to when I can read your wonderful posts. |
This used to be a very good MB but its turned to the drizzling sh1ts now , all you need to do is read is the drivel on this thread to confirm it , labour, labour, labour , blah , blah blah ,
may incompetent blah blah , blah , sun reading tories, blah, blah blah , people to stupid to vote if they don't vote corbyn, and on and on and on it goes
the best one ive heard is that Dianne abbot is a brilliant MP & that the racists have forced her out , priceless , only on left for words ,
it was fun once
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| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:46 - Jun 7 with 1382 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:30 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
I don't read the Sun.
Why would I need to when I can read your wonderful posts. |
Well lets face it mate, you couldn't post anything of interest to warrant reading
Look forward to you proving me wrong with you listing all the positive reasons for voting tory without tory headlines attacking Labour
Maybe start with their manifesto should not take more than 20 seconds | |
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:47 - Jun 7 with 1376 views | JamesB1979 |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:46 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well lets face it mate, you couldn't post anything of interest to warrant reading
Look forward to you proving me wrong with you listing all the positive reasons for voting tory without tory headlines attacking Labour
Maybe start with their manifesto should not take more than 20 seconds |
Care to respond to my corporation tax point? | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:48 - Jun 7 with 1366 views | Northernr |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:02 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Stupid in regards those that don't vote or can't see beyond the headlines of a tory press. [Post edited 7 Jun 2017 13:04]
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No branding somebody who simply doesn't agree with you politically illiterate and urging them not to vote. OOO. You're a bit rabid on this thread TBH and you should wind it in a bit. |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:53 - Jun 7 with 1343 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:48 - Jun 7 by Northernr |
No branding somebody who simply doesn't agree with you politically illiterate and urging them not to vote. OOO. You're a bit rabid on this thread TBH and you should wind it in a bit. |
Tory censorship!!
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:55 - Jun 7 with 1329 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:46 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well lets face it mate, you couldn't post anything of interest to warrant reading
Look forward to you proving me wrong with you listing all the positive reasons for voting tory without tory headlines attacking Labour
Maybe start with their manifesto should not take more than 20 seconds |
You know nothing about me yet I notice you get very personal and aggressive when people don't agree with you.
It's really not a nice trait you know.
You make lots of sweeping generalisations as well. | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:03 - Jun 7 with 1303 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:55 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
You know nothing about me yet I notice you get very personal and aggressive when people don't agree with you.
It's really not a nice trait you know.
You make lots of sweeping generalisations as well. |
Have you started on that post yet [Post edited 7 Jun 2017 14:03]
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| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:03 - Jun 7 with 1302 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 13:42 - Jun 7 by paulparker |
This used to be a very good MB but its turned to the drizzling sh1ts now , all you need to do is read is the drivel on this thread to confirm it , labour, labour, labour , blah , blah blah ,
may incompetent blah blah , blah , sun reading tories, blah, blah blah , people to stupid to vote if they don't vote corbyn, and on and on and on it goes
the best one ive heard is that Dianne abbot is a brilliant MP & that the racists have forced her out , priceless , only on left for words ,
it was fun once
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I still think it's a great forum (although I miss Disco!) but this thread is a bit relentless I agree. | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:07 - Jun 7 with 1285 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:03 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Have you started on that post yet [Post edited 7 Jun 2017 14:03]
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What post is that?
Were you running out of fuel and wanting to bore us all some more? | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:10 - Jun 7 with 1276 views | Phildo |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:03 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
I still think it's a great forum (although I miss Disco!) but this thread is a bit relentless I agree. |
I blame Hubble for starting it.....
If only there was one thing that united us. Something we all agreed on and could get behind. And don't say QPR because that would leave Konk out.
Anything else we all agree on? |  | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:12 - Jun 7 with 1270 views | stowmarketrange |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:10 - Jun 7 by Phildo |
I blame Hubble for starting it.....
If only there was one thing that united us. Something we all agreed on and could get behind. And don't say QPR because that would leave Konk out.
Anything else we all agree on? |
John teary is a c@nt. | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:12 - Jun 7 with 1270 views | JamesB1979 |
Hating John Terry | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:13 - Jun 7 with 1264 views | stowmarketrange |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:12 - Jun 7 by JamesB1979 |
Hating John Terry |
I bet he is a Tory though. | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:14 - Jun 7 with 1263 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:10 - Jun 7 by Phildo |
I blame Hubble for starting it.....
If only there was one thing that united us. Something we all agreed on and could get behind. And don't say QPR because that would leave Konk out.
Anything else we all agree on? |
Ironically, I know Hubble and he's a great bloke. | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:15 - Jun 7 with 1260 views | JamesB1979 |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:13 - Jun 7 by stowmarketrange |
I bet he is a Tory though. |
I bet he supports Labour | | | |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:17 - Jun 7 with 1250 views | stowmarketrange |
| On Diane Abbot, why we should vote Labour anyway, and more... on 14:15 - Jun 7 by JamesB1979 |
I bet he supports Labour |
I bet he supports himself. | | | |
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