| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. 14:27 - Nov 26 with 6718 views | Davillin |
You may believe this article or not about where this is all going, but the underlying facts it uses as support for that conclusion are irrefutable. p.s., I've been expecting this for several years. p.s. It's not at all good, and it's getting worse by the day.
p.s. The links in this article didn't copy, so if you want to read the source articles, go to the article at the link below
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Ferguson Riots, Immigration Reform Framing Coming Civil War Around Race
Old-Thinker News | November 25, 2014
By Daniel Taylor
Media focus on racial division diverting anger away from tyrannical government
Chaos has engulfed Ferguson, Missouri as the mainstream media is directing national attention to divisive racial issues at a time of rising tyranny in America.
Sensational revelations about government corruption are becoming a regular occurrence under the Obama administration. Ordinary Americans are being targeted while known terrorists are escorted through security. Kidnappers, rapists, and murderers are being released from prison; an action sanctioned by the President of the United States. The BATF allows guns to find their way to Mexican drug lords, while the federal government is fighting to disarm American citizens. Mega-banks launder billions of dollars worth of drug money.
Amidst this flurry of rampant corruption, Obamacare architect Johnathan Gruber admitted on video that “lack of transparency” was crucial in passing Obamacare and fool “stupid American voters” into accepting it.
Nearly every agency of government has acquired some form of armaments in the past several years. Police departments across the country are getting mine resistant vehicles. Homeland Security is acquiring billions of rounds of ammunition. The Department of Agriculture recently requested body armor as well as sub machine guns. Many other instruments of war have been stored and deployed.
A divided country
While the wealth of America is being systematically destroyed, divisive issues of race are being inflamed. Conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly called Obama’s recent executive order on Amnesty for illegal aliens a “Fort Sumter” event, referring to the defining event at the beginning of America’s first civil war. Obama’s announcement came on November 20th, the same day that Mexico’s Revolution day was celebrated.
At the same time, riots in Ferguson Missouri have attracted the attention of national media, threatening to spark riots in cities across the country. The announcement of the grand jury’s decision to absolve officer Darren Wilson was seemingly timed perfectly to incite riots after 8pm.
National Guard stood down in Ferguson on orders of the White House?
Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder told Fox News that, “Is the reason that the National Guard was not in there because the Obama Administration and the Holder Justice Department leaned on you to keep them out? I cannot imagine any other reason why the governor who mobilized the National Guard would not have them in there to stop this.”
The establishment is well aware that the country is growing increasingly skeptical of the federal government. Confidence in all branches of government are reaching record lows. According to Gallup, Congress has about a 7% approval rating; The presidency around 29% and the Supreme Court at 30%.
The establishment is attempting to direct the spirit of the nation into a destructive revolution of bloody conflagration and hate that will only result in more power for the elite.
If the nation is allowed to unify over issues of sound economic policy, purging government corruption, and re-affirming our moral code as a nation and as individuals, the corrupt elite will be brought to justice. As long as the country is divided this cannot happen. If the nation falls into chaos, these central unifying issues need to guide a real revolution of positive change that will rise from the ashes.
This generation, just as America’s founders did, will provide the heroes and legends for the next. Your actions and choices during this time will alter the outcome of this historical time period and set the cultural agenda for the next cycle. Its up to you.
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Originally published at:
http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2014/11/25/ferguson-riots-immigration-reform-frami
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:30 - Nov 26 with 1031 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:05 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Because they tie same-sex marriage and abortion up in religious knots to disguise the fact that they're big steaming hypocrites who only want the government to "butt out of their lives" when it suits them. |
well yes I know you think that and I find it incredibly hypocritical as well, but it was more a question to Tummer (who described himself as a republican) and to Dav (who I assume would say the same - I apologise Dav if this is not the case, it's an assumption rather than based on what you've specifically stated). I genuinely am interested in how they explain this apparent anomaly in the beliefs of republicans. I have never been able to find out from a republican why this one area is so far removed from their other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else). |  | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:35 - Nov 26 with 1022 views | Thursday |
While the LA Riots were happening in 1992, Barack Hussein Obama was leading a voter registration program for unregistered African American voters halfway across the country. Devious fokker. | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:39 - Nov 26 with 1010 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:30 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
well yes I know you think that and I find it incredibly hypocritical as well, but it was more a question to Tummer (who described himself as a republican) and to Dav (who I assume would say the same - I apologise Dav if this is not the case, it's an assumption rather than based on what you've specifically stated). I genuinely am interested in how they explain this apparent anomaly in the beliefs of republicans. I have never been able to find out from a republican why this one area is so far removed from their other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else). |
That's the nicest way anyone's ever said "mind your own business I wasn't talking to you" to me. |  |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:40 - Nov 26 with 1009 views | Thursday |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:30 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
well yes I know you think that and I find it incredibly hypocritical as well, but it was more a question to Tummer (who described himself as a republican) and to Dav (who I assume would say the same - I apologise Dav if this is not the case, it's an assumption rather than based on what you've specifically stated). I genuinely am interested in how they explain this apparent anomaly in the beliefs of republicans. I have never been able to find out from a republican why this one area is so far removed from their other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else). |
Republicans believe in small government as it relates to the economic system and the majority of its members. There can't be universal belief in small government as they'd have to align with libertarians. | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:43 - Nov 26 with 1000 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:40 - Nov 26 by Thursday |
Republicans believe in small government as it relates to the economic system and the majority of its members. There can't be universal belief in small government as they'd have to align with libertarians. |
Roughly translated, republicans believe in small government when it suits them to believe in small government. | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:46 - Nov 26 with 986 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 17:23 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
This is a genuine question that has always bothered me.
Why is it that Republicans believe in small government and personal freedom when it comes to stuff like guns, and yet believe in absolutely the opposite when it comes to things like same sex marriage or abortion?
As an outsider, it makes no sense at all. The only part of people's lives they want government to interfere with is what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom. |
For one thing, not all Republicans think alike.
You have Tea Party Republicans, who you've just described; then you have Libertarian Republicans, like me.
Fortunately, my side is the younger faction. But there are still some times I dislike a Republican enough to vote Democrat. Texas' current Governor - Rick Perry - is the perfect example. |  |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:48 - Nov 26 with 984 views | Darran |
Vote USIP. |  |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:49 - Nov 26 with 984 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:39 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy |
That's the nicest way anyone's ever said "mind your own business I wasn't talking to you" to me. |
no, not at all :-)
The difficulty that I have with it all is that one area (I don't mean the difficulty I have with the republican party - I couldn't find one area I remotely agree with to be honest, apart from a few economic policies). I mean the difficulty with the whole reasoning behind it and I have genuinely never heard one republican who is able to give an explanation other than 'we don't like gay people'.
even the religious justification is absolute balls - there are no other areas of the bible where people hang on every word any more (creationism possibly in some of the more strange tea party types). I wondered (genuinely) whether they actually have a justification for it or whether they are actually prepared to say - it's just that we don't like gay people. | | | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:53 - Nov 26 with 977 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:46 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas |
For one thing, not all Republicans think alike.
You have Tea Party Republicans, who you've just described; then you have Libertarian Republicans, like me.
Fortunately, my side is the younger faction. But there are still some times I dislike a Republican enough to vote Democrat. Texas' current Governor - Rick Perry - is the perfect example. |
no, I understand that.
Bu there is not a chance in hell that ANY Republican could stand up and say that they support same sex marriage or a woman's right to choose and get elected is there? Or are you saying that is beginning to change? | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:03 - Nov 26 with 932 views | Pacemaker |
The treatment of minorities in the US will be something the majority of white people will soon become acutely aware of.
I certainly believe that within my lifetime the majority of citizens in the US will be non white. I would assume that decision makers will eventually reflect that of the general population and the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown I suspect.
Whether that is equal rights and opportunities or something else, I suppose we will all have to wait and see. |  |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:15 - Nov 26 with 917 views | dgt73 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:03 - Nov 26 by Pacemaker |
The treatment of minorities in the US will be something the majority of white people will soon become acutely aware of.
I certainly believe that within my lifetime the majority of citizens in the US will be non white. I would assume that decision makers will eventually reflect that of the general population and the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown I suspect.
Whether that is equal rights and opportunities or something else, I suppose we will all have to wait and see. |
White European people are the most ruthless people that have ever walked the earth and that includes war making and if it came down to a racial conflict, regardless if the the whites were in the minority there would only be one outcome. Just have a look back in history. [Post edited 26 Nov 2014 20:20]
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:23 - Nov 26 with 907 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:53 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
no, I understand that.
Bu there is not a chance in hell that ANY Republican could stand up and say that they support same sex marriage or a woman's right to choose and get elected is there? Or are you saying that is beginning to change? |
I don't know how much things are changing, but to some degree it's always been that way. Prominent Republicans who support gay marriage:
George Bush Sr. (of course he's retired)
Former VP Dick Cheney
Senators Rob Portman (Ohio), Mark Kirk (Ill), Susan Collins (Maine)
Former Pres. candidate John Huntsman
The list of Pro Choice Republicans is too long to list.
Conversely, plenty of Democrats don't support either. In fact there are even some Democratic strongholds where the majority are both anti-gay marriage and Pro Life. Particularly South Texas, which has a large Catholic/Hispanic population.
Overall, you are fairly correct in broad terms though, and if either issue were among the most important things on my personal agenda (moreso than the economy), then I'd probably become a Socialist...sorry I mean Democrat.
But it is very possible to be Republican and progressive on social issues. [Post edited 26 Nov 2014 20:27]
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:51 - Nov 26 with 886 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:23 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas |
I don't know how much things are changing, but to some degree it's always been that way. Prominent Republicans who support gay marriage:
George Bush Sr. (of course he's retired)
Former VP Dick Cheney
Senators Rob Portman (Ohio), Mark Kirk (Ill), Susan Collins (Maine)
Former Pres. candidate John Huntsman
The list of Pro Choice Republicans is too long to list.
Conversely, plenty of Democrats don't support either. In fact there are even some Democratic strongholds where the majority are both anti-gay marriage and Pro Life. Particularly South Texas, which has a large Catholic/Hispanic population.
Overall, you are fairly correct in broad terms though, and if either issue were among the most important things on my personal agenda (moreso than the economy), then I'd probably become a Socialist...sorry I mean Democrat.
But it is very possible to be Republican and progressive on social issues. [Post edited 26 Nov 2014 20:27]
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thanks Tummer. That's very interesting. We obviously get a distorted view here. There is not a party that would dare in the UK to be anti these things (in general). I don't know whether we are genuinely more liberal, or less bound by the traditional 'Church'.
I always find it astonishing quite how much influence the Church has in modern day America (and I say that as someone that thinks the US is a great place to visit, with many, many, interesting cities and people). | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:53 - Nov 26 with 885 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
Another thing that turned me off the Democratic party for life was a certain hypocrisy I first experienced in college in Austin (the most liberal part of Texas).
For a party that loves to proclaim itself to be all about tolerance and open mindedness, apparently that only applies if you agree with them completely. They can get pretty nasty towards people who don't agree with them. In fact VERY nasty towards minorities who dare to even whisper about supporting anything conservative or Republican.
I know, that can be applied to just about any political party on Earth, but it seems to be the rule with Democrats (and completely hypocritical, considering their self righteousness) more than Republicans.
Just one example I remember from the last election:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teacher-likens-student-romney-shirt-kkk | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:59 - Nov 26 with 878 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:51 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
thanks Tummer. That's very interesting. We obviously get a distorted view here. There is not a party that would dare in the UK to be anti these things (in general). I don't know whether we are genuinely more liberal, or less bound by the traditional 'Church'.
I always find it astonishing quite how much influence the Church has in modern day America (and I say that as someone that thinks the US is a great place to visit, with many, many, interesting cities and people). |
Distorted view - yeah, that's our media for ya!  | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:10 - Nov 26 with 817 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:59 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas |
Distorted view - yeah, that's our media for ya! |
to be fair, there's not a lot of news over here in one of your politicians saying something sensible. Far more mileage in one of them saying something extremely stupid, and it's not like there's a shortage to choose from. Following Sarah Palin around would do it. | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:33 - Nov 26 with 797 views | Davillin |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:03 - Nov 26 by Watchman |
why the need for guns! Gandhi brought down the Empire with peace!
That is what the system cannot cope with!
If you shoot me the only thing you have is my dead body not my acquiescence
Revolution is closer in the UK than the USA. USA believe in money and that alone |
I love that post!
Re: Gandhi. It is at least debatable whether he "brought down the Empire with peace," but what he did to India is right there before us.
What is "the system"? And who speaks for "the system" and can say what "the system" can or cannot "cope with"?
Have you considered that if I shoot someone, his acquiescence would be the very last thing that I would want, or even think about?
If you believe "USA believe in money and that alone," there's really no future in discussing this with you, so I'll read that as a jest or an argument starter, concede the palm, abandon the field, and leave it at that.
It's really the U.K. who believe in money and that alone! That hasn't changed one dot in over five centuries. | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:34 - Nov 26 with 796 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:10 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
to be fair, there's not a lot of news over here in one of your politicians saying something sensible. Far more mileage in one of them saying something extremely stupid, and it's not like there's a shortage to choose from. Following Sarah Palin around would do it. |
LOL agreed - our VP Biden too. If he were a Republican, his exploits would be much more widely reported.
Any time I hear anything personally nasty, racist, or violent about our President (which isn't too often, but it happens), I remind the source that this guy is just a heartbeat away.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/bidenisms.htm
http://dailysurge.com/2014/08/bidens-latest-gaffe-as-stupid-as-you-might-expect/ [Post edited 26 Nov 2014 21:36]
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:37 - Nov 26 with 791 views | Davillin |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:05 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Because they tie same-sex marriage and abortion up in religious knots to disguise the fact that they're big steaming hypocrites who only want the government to "butt out of their lives" when it suits them. |
What in Heaven's name has gotten into you? For years, you have been my logical and philosophical ideal for your calm and rational attitudes and posts. But this post and others in this thread . . . . | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:43 - Nov 26 with 785 views | londonlisa2001 |
funnily enough I happen to know Michele Bachmann's brother pretty well (he's a lawyer in the US).
Talking of nut jobs :-) | | | |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:43 - Nov 26 with 785 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:37 - Nov 26 by Davillin |
What in Heaven's name has gotten into you? For years, you have been my logical and philosophical ideal for your calm and rational attitudes and posts. But this post and others in this thread . . . . |
I suppose I've been slightly flippant and maybe more forthright than you may be used to. That said, I haven't said anything on here that I don't believe to be true. | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:02 - Nov 26 with 758 views | acejack3065 |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:43 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy |
I suppose I've been slightly flippant and maybe more forthright than you may be used to. That said, I haven't said anything on here that I don't believe to be true. |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:03 - Nov 26 with 755 views | Davillin |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 18:30 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
well yes I know you think that and I find it incredibly hypocritical as well, but it was more a question to Tummer (who described himself as a republican) and to Dav (who I assume would say the same - I apologise Dav if this is not the case, it's an assumption rather than based on what you've specifically stated). I genuinely am interested in how they explain this apparent anomaly in the beliefs of republicans. I have never been able to find out from a republican why this one area is so far removed from their other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else). |
I'm a [small "c"] conservatives, and registered as a [lower case"i"] independent. For the first third of my voting and politically [very] active life, I was a registered Democrat. For my second third, I switched my registration to Republican when the Democrats took such a hard-left turn that I choked whenever I thought of it. This final third, I have no use for either party because as parties, they no longer exist in order to make the United States a better place, but to get re-elected and control the government. [That revulsion applies only to the parties, and not to the majority of rank and file members, who are still operating on a somewhat loftier plane.]
I reply to your post above because of my respect for you. There is no "apparent anomaly in the beliefs of [capital "R"] Republicans." None.
One can be either a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, or any other political party, and have some of -- or even many of -- the same beliefs as some -- many -- in every other party. That is a basic fact about U.S. political parties.
If you were over here, you'd hear endless statements like this one with any variety and mixture of terms: "I'm a fiscal conservative, a social progressive, and a political Libertarian, and a [pick one: "Democrat," "Republican," "Independent," etc.].
I truly hope that you will accept that as truth.
To your specific question, there are people in every U.S. political party, without exception, who are pro-ife, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-gay marriage, and on and on.
The reasons for being anti-same sex marriage or anti-abortion, are not derived from being a member of the Republican Party. They derive from religious sentiments, or social concerns, or inherent moral beliefs, which are, and have been for a long time, apolitical over here.
Regarding "other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else," you'll find that that is a tenet of the Democratic party, if anyone. | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:06 - Nov 26 with 752 views | Davillin |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:43 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001 |
funnily enough I happen to know Michele Bachmann's brother pretty well (he's a lawyer in the US).
Talking of nut jobs :-) |
Unkind and untypically not your most kind comment, whether you're referring to one Bachmann or the other. | |
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| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:20 - Nov 26 with 736 views | Davillin |
| The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 21:43 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy |
I suppose I've been slightly flippant and maybe more forthright than you may be used to. That said, I haven't said anything on here that I don't believe to be true. |
You have been slightly flippant and more forthright than I have been used to. I could add several other, and more generous, attributes that you used to exhibit.
I have no doubt that you "believe them to be true," but sadly, far too often, one’s predilections create one’s perceptions. | |
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