| Clarke Carlisle 08:57 - Feb 5 with 19278 views | dgt73 |
Very selfish of him imo to endanger and put other people's lives at risk, all because he wanted to end his own life. |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 08:45 - Jul 5 with 1795 views | Neath_Jack |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:39 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
Let's hope no one jumps in front of you or one of your loved ones - like CC did. |
Why don't we hope instead, that nobody feels so lost and helpless that they feel the need to harm themselves in anyway. |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 08:49 - Jul 5 with 1782 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:45 - Jul 5 by Neath_Jack |
Why don't we hope instead, that nobody feels so lost and helpless that they feel the need to harm themselves in anyway. |
And what was so bad in his life that made him become so lost ? | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 08:50 - Jul 5 with 1767 views | Neath_Jack |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:49 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
And what was so bad in his life that made him become so lost ? |
Is that a genuine question?
Save it, i'm out. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 08:52 - Jul 5 with 1759 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:50 - Jul 5 by Neath_Jack |
Is that a genuine question?
Save it, i'm out. |
Another one who's unable to back up what they say. Lol | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 09:28 - Jul 5 with 1706 views | waynekerr55 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:49 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
And what was so bad in his life that made him become so lost ? |
Maybe, just maybe his brain isn't 'wired' correctly... As is the case with people with depression.
Just a thought |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 09:37 - Jul 5 with 1682 views | ItchySphincter |
Some people just can't accept it's an illness. People like dgt73 think it's a choice but then again if brains were chocolate he wouldn't have enough to fill a smartie. |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 10:47 - Jul 5 with 1596 views | Highjack |
Yes it's an illness and they deserve every sympathy but people like this are a danger to themselves and the general public and should be kept away from the general public in a secure hospital until they are better. Carlisle has committed a crime by walking out in front of that lorry, he's ruined the drivers life, and now this guy who helped him is dead as a result of his actions. His kids must now grow up without a dad whilst Carlisle is still free to walk the streets, and will probably try to top himself again and god knows who's going to get hurt next time.
More should be done to help these people but the public need to be protected too from this sort of thing. |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 11:50 - Jul 5 with 1541 views | Glyn1 |
Did the driver commit suicide? |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 13:46 - Jul 5 with 1463 views | Trundle10 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 10:47 - Jul 5 by Highjack |
Yes it's an illness and they deserve every sympathy but people like this are a danger to themselves and the general public and should be kept away from the general public in a secure hospital until they are better. Carlisle has committed a crime by walking out in front of that lorry, he's ruined the drivers life, and now this guy who helped him is dead as a result of his actions. His kids must now grow up without a dad whilst Carlisle is still free to walk the streets, and will probably try to top himself again and god knows who's going to get hurt next time.
More should be done to help these people but the public need to be protected too from this sort of thing. |
The driver is dead as the result of HIS own actions. We know nothing about it. You could Now say that the unfortunate person who found him is now getting nightmares.... What if this tips that person over? It is all conjecture. Mental illness is not a choice and trying to rationalise it with a sane mind (in some cases on here) is absolutely futile. There are no winners in this and plenty of losers. But for the grace of god go I. [Post edited 5 Jul 2015 13:49]
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| Clarke Carlisle on 14:30 - Jul 5 with 1408 views | Highjack |
Either way more needs to be done. Very often with these issues the real victims are the ones left behind to pick up the pieces.
Im not suggesting we should strap them in strait jackets in a padded room for forty years with the odd lobotomy thrown in like we used to. But anyone who becomes a threat to themselves or others due to their mental state should be held and cared for properly until they are right.
Carlisle is an example of someone who should have had the help years ago, but sadly it's all led to this mess and shattered lives. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 14:32 - Jul 5 with 1406 views | sully49 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 08:52 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
Another one who's unable to back up what they say. Lol |
This is arragant beyond belief, the only people to feel this misguided are the Catholics, so that there is only black and white and no grey area's, well life is no longer that simplistic. Think stress and multiply it by millions.
What drive's people to that point can be, to some people, so unbelievable that it's futile. However, the trigger will be wildly different from person to person, that to pass judgement is ignorant.
Thank God there are professionals out there to help.
Unfourtunately the person in this downward spiral is totally unable see that for themselves and need family or freinds to see it at the time, all you can do is support as best as you can and get professional help as soon as possible. [Post edited 7 Jul 2015 0:40]
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:01 - Jul 5 with 1372 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 14:32 - Jul 5 by sully49 |
This is arragant beyond belief, the only people to feel this misguided are the Catholics, so that there is only black and white and no grey area's, well life is no longer that simplistic. Think stress and multiply it by millions.
What drive's people to that point can be, to some people, so unbelievable that it's futile. However, the trigger will be wildly different from person to person, that to pass judgement is ignorant.
Thank God there are professionals out there to help.
Unfourtunately the person in this downward spiral is totally unable see that for themselves and need family or freinds to see it at the time, all you can do is support as best as you can and get professional help as soon as possible. [Post edited 7 Jul 2015 0:40]
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If people are Ill and are a danger to others, they need to be forced if needed to get help. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:11 - Jul 5 with 1354 views | macthejack |
Success sucks less than standard existence
But when you exceed the standard dreams, what becomes of ambitions?
The average man can dream dreams of a path he's never walked
But when that path's your day to day, your dreams become warped
People underestimate the value of dreaming
That which you aspire to provides a roof, a ceiling
In particular the dreams that there's no way of achieving
Like I wanna be Brad Pitt or something equally fleeting
I can't aspire to such things so deeper I must delve
And then the only guide I have to life becomes myself
This was always going to happen, in fact I'd be surprised if I'm the first
This kind of success and power is bound to bring out the worst |  | | |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:16 - Jul 5 with 1340 views | BlasterJack |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:01 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
If people are Ill and are a danger to others, they need to be forced if needed to get help. |
Like being sectioned under the mental health act you mean? |  |
| "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts. And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him." |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:17 - Jul 5 with 1334 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:16 - Jul 5 by BlasterJack |
Like being sectioned under the mental health act you mean? |
Yes....has Carlisle, at any point?. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:21 - Jul 5 with 1312 views | BlasterJack |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:17 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
Yes....has Carlisle, at any point?. |
Haven't a clue.
Unfortunately, by the time it becomes apparent that someone has the potential to be an immediate danger to either themselves or others, it's often too late. | |
| "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts. And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him." |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:27 - Jul 5 with 1294 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:21 - Jul 5 by BlasterJack |
Haven't a clue.
Unfortunately, by the time it becomes apparent that someone has the potential to be an immediate danger to either themselves or others, it's often too late. |
Well, we know know that he has the potential to harm others......so i hope he has had some expert help, to stop him doing it again. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:35 - Jul 5 with 1282 views | sully49 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:01 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
If people are Ill and are a danger to others, they need to be forced if needed to get help. |
OMG "forced" where does this unbelievable inane view point end? I called it a Catholic issue, to all Catholics I sincerely apologise. This originates from Mein Kampf.
What part of support, downward spiral, help didn't you get? I can do but wish that anyone who is suffering from this awful condition isn't anyone you know.
You're totally pathetic, If you don't think anxiety, depression, sadness and stress impact your physical health, think again. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:38 - Jul 5 with 1276 views | Groo |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:27 - Jul 5 by dgt73 |
Well, we know know that he has the potential to harm others......so i hope he has had some expert help, to stop him doing it again. |
So if one of you children had clinical depression, your answer would be to give them a clip around the ear and tell them there's people worse off.
Have you actually bothered to even google clinical depression and read what it is?
You'd love it in Japan, they also have no sympathy with someone with an illness, if someone jumps in front of a train there, then the family has to pay for the disruption to services. You'd fit in well. |  |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 15:43 - Jul 5 with 1261 views | dgt73 |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:38 - Jul 5 by Groo |
So if one of you children had clinical depression, your answer would be to give them a clip around the ear and tell them there's people worse off.
Have you actually bothered to even google clinical depression and read what it is?
You'd love it in Japan, they also have no sympathy with someone with an illness, if someone jumps in front of a train there, then the family has to pay for the disruption to services. You'd fit in well. |
And if one of your children suffered as the consequences of someone with mental issues......would you say it's not his fault, he has problems......let's go and give him a hug. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 16:48 - Jul 5 with 1198 views | Highjack |
| Clarke Carlisle on 15:21 - Jul 5 by BlasterJack |
Haven't a clue.
Unfortunately, by the time it becomes apparent that someone has the potential to be an immediate danger to either themselves or others, it's often too late. |
Exactly. It's always too late because 1: people aren't aware of the signs of potential illness in others
2: sufferers don't come forward because of the stigma that's attached to it, how it might affect their career prospects or because they feel they are being stupid or wimpy. Particularly men I imagine this last one would apply to.
We don't do enough as a society on both counts. It should be taught in schools that it's normal and can be fixed. People should not feel in the 21st century that they can't get help. | |
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| Clarke Carlisle on 17:59 - Jul 5 with 1141 views | DafyddHuw |
Obviously dgt73 and the Jackarmy site were meant for each other. |  | | |
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