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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York 17:04 - Aug 12 with 3804 viewsTummer_from_Texas

The fatwa against this guy was issued something like 33 years ago. Hope he makes it.


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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:12 - Aug 12 with 2772 viewsonehunglow

Religion

again

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:16 - Aug 12 with 2759 viewsFlashberryjack

33 years or 33,000 years, time doesn't matter to that bunch, they'll always live in the past.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:42 - Aug 12 with 2727 viewsGwyn737

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:16 - Aug 12 by Flashberryjack

33 years or 33,000 years, time doesn't matter to that bunch, they'll always live in the past.


Even more horrendous when you think about it like that.

This will kick off more hate, no doubt.
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:44 - Aug 12 with 2724 viewsKerouac

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:42 - Aug 12 by Gwyn737

Even more horrendous when you think about it like that.

This will kick off more hate, no doubt.


Do you think Salman Rushdie brought it on himself?

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:00 - Aug 12 with 2701 viewsGwyn737

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:44 - Aug 12 by Kerouac

Do you think Salman Rushdie brought it on himself?


Certainly not.

I just think it’s sad that there doesn’t seem to be an end to it all.
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:03 - Aug 12 with 2699 viewsCountyJim

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:12 - Aug 12 by onehunglow

Religion

again


Think you'll find most killer's have no religion

But keep trying
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:25 - Aug 12 with 2679 viewsDr_Winston

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:03 - Aug 12 by CountyJim

Think you'll find most killer's have no religion

But keep trying


Atheists don't tend to want to murder people for writing fiction.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:35 - Aug 12 with 2666 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:25 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston

Atheists don't tend to want to murder people for writing fiction.


I was very tempted when I saw the remake of ghostbusters.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:44 - Aug 12 with 2658 viewsDr_Winston

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:35 - Aug 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I was very tempted when I saw the remake of ghostbusters.


I gave up after about half an hour.

Takes some doing to make a talented cast like that unwatchable.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:13 - Aug 12 with 2632 viewsBoundy

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:03 - Aug 12 by CountyJim

Think you'll find most killer's have no religion

But keep trying


You really believe that ?

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 08:11 - Aug 13 with 2507 viewsSTID2017

Just awful.
Hope he makes a full recovery

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 10:42 - Aug 13 with 2470 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Per the TV report I just saw, he's in very bad shape.

Stabbed at least 15 times, lost an eye, major liver and nerve damage and he's on a ventilator.

Meanwhile, Sky News is exploring why Rushdie "is so controversial," implying he is partly to blame. Disgusting.


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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 11:21 - Aug 13 with 2454 viewsSTID2017

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 10:42 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Per the TV report I just saw, he's in very bad shape.

Stabbed at least 15 times, lost an eye, major liver and nerve damage and he's on a ventilator.

Meanwhile, Sky News is exploring why Rushdie "is so controversial," implying he is partly to blame. Disgusting.



Shocking.
It sounds very worrying

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 11:56 - Aug 13 with 2440 viewsCountyJim

In an ideal world you should be able to say print what you want but unfortunately we don't live in that world

I hope he gets well
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:57 - Aug 13 with 2339 viewsCatullus

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:25 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston

Atheists don't tend to want to murder people for writing fiction.


Atheists don't kill in the name of religion either.

Can Jim post a link to any facts to back up his suggestion?


Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:15 - Aug 13 with 2331 viewsCountyJim

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:57 - Aug 13 by Catullus

Atheists don't kill in the name of religion either.

Can Jim post a link to any facts to back up his suggestion?



Fascism and communism - both of which were atheist ideologies - murdered more than 150 million people in the 20th Century alone.

Don't think that can be argued with can it
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:21 - Aug 13 with 2308 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 18:15 - Aug 13 by CountyJim

Fascism and communism - both of which were atheist ideologies - murdered more than 150 million people in the 20th Century alone.

Don't think that can be argued with can it


They aren’t “atheist ideologies” really though are they? Ok Stalin and Mao were atheists definitely, Hitler bounced from religion to religion depending on what suited him at the time but he was brought up as a Catholic. But both ideologies are entirely separate from any sort of deity. You might as well describe capitalism as an atheist ideology, or socialism. God plays no role in any of it.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:25 - Aug 13 with 2306 viewsBoundy

I'd say the rape of kids by priests and such like often condemns the child to a lifetime of misery , better off dead sometimes

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:30 - Aug 13 with 2300 viewsGwyn737

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:21 - Aug 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

They aren’t “atheist ideologies” really though are they? Ok Stalin and Mao were atheists definitely, Hitler bounced from religion to religion depending on what suited him at the time but he was brought up as a Catholic. But both ideologies are entirely separate from any sort of deity. You might as well describe capitalism as an atheist ideology, or socialism. God plays no role in any of it.


The Catholic Church

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 20:05 - Aug 13 with 2286 viewsDr_Winston

Nazism had strong roots in Nordic mythology, but a lot of the worst offenders were Catholics and Lutherans. It's a myth that they were Atheists. Some of them might have been, a lot of them weren't.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 09:42 - Aug 15 with 2198 viewscontroversial_jack

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 19:21 - Aug 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

They aren’t “atheist ideologies” really though are they? Ok Stalin and Mao were atheists definitely, Hitler bounced from religion to religion depending on what suited him at the time but he was brought up as a Catholic. But both ideologies are entirely separate from any sort of deity. You might as well describe capitalism as an atheist ideology, or socialism. God plays no role in any of it.


Hitler didn't bounce from religion to religion, he avoided them all. He was brought up a catholic, but moved away from it.

He once stated, " there are 200 religions in the world today, therefore 199 must be wrong!" Very apt too.
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 10:01 - Aug 15 with 2190 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The cops investigating this stabbing are yet to establish a motive apparently.

Call in Poirot lads, this case is a tricky one.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 10:05 - Aug 15 with 2184 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 09:42 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack

Hitler didn't bounce from religion to religion, he avoided them all. He was brought up a catholic, but moved away from it.

He once stated, " there are 200 religions in the world today, therefore 199 must be wrong!" Very apt too.


Of course he did. Whether he believed in any of them is a different story but he was a catholic and described himself as a German Christian. He was a huge fan of Islam and wished it had taken over Europe.

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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 13:18 - Aug 15 with 2125 viewscontroversial_jack

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 10:05 - Aug 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Of course he did. Whether he believed in any of them is a different story but he was a catholic and described himself as a German Christian. He was a huge fan of Islam and wished it had taken over Europe.


He really didn't. He was brought up a Catholic, but he would have had no choice about that

Hitler was raised a Catholic, even going to school for two years at the monastery at Lambauch, Austria. As late as 24 he still called himself a Catholic, but somewhere along the way he became an atheist.
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Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 17:45 - Aug 15 with 2063 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Salman Rushdie stabbed in New York on 13:18 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack

He really didn't. He was brought up a Catholic, but he would have had no choice about that

Hitler was raised a Catholic, even going to school for two years at the monastery at Lambauch, Austria. As late as 24 he still called himself a Catholic, but somewhere along the way he became an atheist.
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There’s little evidence for it though. There are numerous accounts of him even in later life saying he remains a catholic and always will be. The strength of his belief obviously only he would know. But he was pragmatic and opportunist when it came to religion, he nicked the swastika off the Hindus, he wished Germany could have been Muslim rather than Christian as he saw it as more warlike. He admired Martin Luther and his teachings and the pragmatism of reforming the church to suit his goals.

Ultimately nobody will ever know for sure but there’s little to no evidence to suggest he was ever a fully fledged atheist. People have suggested that he became more nihilistic after becoming enamoured with the works of Nietzsche but that’s a tenuous link at best.

As for nazi Germany being an “atheist ideology” nearly every single German solder had a belt engraved with the saying “Gott mit uns” which translates as God is with us. Many high ranking members were religious.

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