| Kolli 18:14 - Nov 1 with 54656 views | connell10 |
Is the lad dead ? |  |
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| Kolli on 16:48 - Dec 8 with 1893 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 16:17 - Dec 8 by stevec |
Wearing your socks over your knees in the Championship is a red flag as far as I’m concerned. |
Always reminds me of Thierry Henry.
I would have got over it for him. |  | | |
| Kolli on 16:53 - Dec 8 with 1867 views | QPRSam |
| Kolli on 15:43 - Dec 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
On the canteen incident I guess it comes down to whether you believe otherwise reasonable posters or not. I'm not including myself of course.
At the risk of looking like back tracking, there are lots of reasons why a loan or transfer won't happen in January that wouldn't rule out the fact the club are unreasonably hostile against him, or that he was told he wasn't wanted, which is what i think is the case.
On your second thing, there is more competition with Chair and Poku back. Why not mention it or both this time round if it was good enough reason before? [Post edited 8 Dec 15:55]
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Fair enough. Regarding competition there was also Vale available at the time. When Kolli was in the squad he never replaced Frey (don't agree with this) which leaves 5 attacking midfielder / winger positions to 7 possible players using this JS formula (Chair, Saito, Dembele, Smyth, Poku, Vale, Kolli). It's stacked and incidentally haven't had a number of injuries to create opportunities until right this moment |  | | |
| Kolli on 17:00 - Dec 8 with 1818 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 16:53 - Dec 8 by QPRSam |
Fair enough. Regarding competition there was also Vale available at the time. When Kolli was in the squad he never replaced Frey (don't agree with this) which leaves 5 attacking midfielder / winger positions to 7 possible players using this JS formula (Chair, Saito, Dembele, Smyth, Poku, Vale, Kolli). It's stacked and incidentally haven't had a number of injuries to create opportunities until right this moment |
The thing is Sam, in peacetime, this is all reasonable or subject to opinion.
But as Brian said, the club under this administration has a poor form in truth telling so any consistencies will always be looked at under this microscope. | | | |
| Kolli on 17:15 - Dec 8 with 1751 views | QPRSam |
| Kolli on 17:00 - Dec 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
The thing is Sam, in peacetime, this is all reasonable or subject to opinion.
But as Brian said, the club under this administration has a poor form in truth telling so any consistencies will always be looked at under this microscope. |
Really off topic now but... you're skeptical which you're entitled to be, my question however then is... is there anything they can do to change that perception for you?
I was generally much happier with the change to a more active communication strategy, however you then had someone in a Facebook group complaining at Nourry for attending the open training session and "making it all about himself". Just seems like an impossible tight rope to cross where if you're looking for something, you're going to find it. Tough one and I'm not sure | | | |
| Kolli on 17:29 - Dec 8 with 1699 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 17:15 - Dec 8 by QPRSam |
Really off topic now but... you're skeptical which you're entitled to be, my question however then is... is there anything they can do to change that perception for you?
I was generally much happier with the change to a more active communication strategy, however you then had someone in a Facebook group complaining at Nourry for attending the open training session and "making it all about himself". Just seems like an impossible tight rope to cross where if you're looking for something, you're going to find it. Tough one and I'm not sure |
"is there anything they can do to change that perception for you?"
Well they sort of have. I think we've made some great signings which they said they'd do but I initially didn't believe they would.
They addressed the fanless pre season debacle of the summer before last which I thought they wouldn't budge on, and I also think they are getting better at chatting to people like Clive and other grassroot outlets.
However, and I appreciate this might be a niche concern to me as a Trade Union person, I really believe (and have heard first hand) that they are treating people like shit and media managing the fallout.
Some people here will be results uber alles, but sorry that isn't me. I think we can afford not to be cnts too. | | | |
| Kolli on 17:45 - Dec 8 with 1613 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Kolli on 14:19 - Dec 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, i'm saying (I think) its well managed PR to cover the exclusion and possible exit of a in form and popular player.
A player rubbing his calf doesn't mean 'he's done'. |
Lets have it right, he can't not play and also be "in form"
He's had two apps this season hasn't he? I'd pick him over Frey for most occasions, unless it was an MMA competition, but I couldn't describe two apps as any kind of form. |  | | |
| Kolli on 17:57 - Dec 8 with 1566 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 17:45 - Dec 8 by nick_hammersmith |
Lets have it right, he can't not play and also be "in form"
He's had two apps this season hasn't he? I'd pick him over Frey for most occasions, unless it was an MMA competition, but I couldn't describe two apps as any kind of form. |
He was in form up until they stopped picking him / wanted him out, which really was the end of last season. Appreciate he played at Cov. [Post edited 8 Dec 17:59]
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| Kolli on 17:57 - Dec 8 with 1571 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Kolli on 15:18 - Dec 8 by TK1 |
If JS is saying Kolli is injured, on camera, on Saturday, and he's not injured then that has to be lie that people have discussed and agreed upon. There is no spectrum between that. It's one or the other. I believe he's unfit to picked, you think they're fibbing.
This bit though: "we've been told time and time again how essential to our survival youth players are."
They're essential because selling them is essential to the bottom line. So if he's being sold in January, why is that bad? |
It's not bad, when you look at it without context.
I think most will agree that to try and balance the books and turn the ocean tanker around QPR need to become a selling club. We can't hold out for an Eze every 10 years, it should be a steady stream of development, which allows the club to sell a player, with a new one coming along the conveyor belt ready to deputise.
This whole story isn't bad, its just disappointing.
Most people might have seen "something" in the way Kolli has played that suggests there might be a player in there.
Most people would love to see someone who started in the kids team make it into the first team.
But, I just don't think we've seen enough to realise if we are about to let a good one go without much benefit
OR, I could be wrong and hes the next Taylor Richards, or Sinclair Armstrong!
Just a big shame really. I don't imagine the current management would have given Adel a fair crack in the first team either.
Watching Adel play was a real bright spot for me in recentish years. | | | |
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| Kolli on 18:00 - Dec 8 with 1546 views | TK1 |
| Kolli on 17:45 - Dec 8 by nick_hammersmith |
Lets have it right, he can't not play and also be "in form"
He's had two apps this season hasn't he? I'd pick him over Frey for most occasions, unless it was an MMA competition, but I couldn't describe two apps as any kind of form. |
He's made six first team appearances, started at Coventry, started at Plymouth, couple of full halves too. I thought his cameo at Bristol was excellent and would've liked to have seen more subsequently...but he has been injured since then. Six appearances by December, having been injured too: it's not being cast into the wilderness, really. | | | |
| Kolli on 18:05 - Dec 8 with 1506 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 15:18 - Dec 8 by TK1 |
If JS is saying Kolli is injured, on camera, on Saturday, and he's not injured then that has to be lie that people have discussed and agreed upon. There is no spectrum between that. It's one or the other. I believe he's unfit to picked, you think they're fibbing.
This bit though: "we've been told time and time again how essential to our survival youth players are."
They're essential because selling them is essential to the bottom line. So if he's being sold in January, why is that bad? |
Sorry just seen this.
If for example Koll says 'I have a sore hamstring but I can play' and JS says 'i'm not picking him because he's injured' is it not the case that both of those can be true? Is not also possible that the club could market his departure the same way?
A good demonstration of a spectrum I'd say.
- If the club needs to sell Kolli for the bottom line, fine.
- If the club needs to sell Kolli for the reason that he's embarrassed a staff member or has a mouthy Dad, not fine. [Post edited 8 Dec 18:33]
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| Kolli on 18:07 - Dec 8 with 1497 views | TK1 |
| Kolli on 17:29 - Dec 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
"is there anything they can do to change that perception for you?"
Well they sort of have. I think we've made some great signings which they said they'd do but I initially didn't believe they would.
They addressed the fanless pre season debacle of the summer before last which I thought they wouldn't budge on, and I also think they are getting better at chatting to people like Clive and other grassroot outlets.
However, and I appreciate this might be a niche concern to me as a Trade Union person, I really believe (and have heard first hand) that they are treating people like shit and media managing the fallout.
Some people here will be results uber alles, but sorry that isn't me. I think we can afford not to be cnts too. |
To be honest, this is where I am with the club too. I hate the media management stuff, like the signings, like the manager, hate they got rid of Furlong and not revealed who is taking the Dev squad games, etc. Perhaps similar to you?
Which proves that most 13 page messageboard debates on any subject could be resolved in 30 seconds across a pub table with either agreement or at worst a shrug.
But I want to believe, as feel it is best for all to believe, that the manager is not lying on camera at press conferences, as he comes across as a decent man. I assume that he's telling the truth over something as mundane as Kolli and Vale (or whoever's) fitness. To be cross about a lie, I need to catch someone in it. | | | |
| Kolli on 18:10 - Dec 8 with 1470 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 18:07 - Dec 8 by TK1 |
To be honest, this is where I am with the club too. I hate the media management stuff, like the signings, like the manager, hate they got rid of Furlong and not revealed who is taking the Dev squad games, etc. Perhaps similar to you?
Which proves that most 13 page messageboard debates on any subject could be resolved in 30 seconds across a pub table with either agreement or at worst a shrug.
But I want to believe, as feel it is best for all to believe, that the manager is not lying on camera at press conferences, as he comes across as a decent man. I assume that he's telling the truth over something as mundane as Kolli and Vale (or whoever's) fitness. To be cross about a lie, I need to catch someone in it. |
I think a shrug is the best we can hope for here. I've heard too much from people at the club I trust. | | | |
| Kolli on 19:26 - Dec 8 with 1287 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Kolli on 18:07 - Dec 8 by TK1 |
To be honest, this is where I am with the club too. I hate the media management stuff, like the signings, like the manager, hate they got rid of Furlong and not revealed who is taking the Dev squad games, etc. Perhaps similar to you?
Which proves that most 13 page messageboard debates on any subject could be resolved in 30 seconds across a pub table with either agreement or at worst a shrug.
But I want to believe, as feel it is best for all to believe, that the manager is not lying on camera at press conferences, as he comes across as a decent man. I assume that he's telling the truth over something as mundane as Kolli and Vale (or whoever's) fitness. To be cross about a lie, I need to catch someone in it. |
Well of course Stéphan isn’t lying about Kolli being injured: if this wasn’t true then we all know Kolli’s Dad would’ve 100% called it out on social media by now. |  | | |
| Kolli on 19:27 - Dec 8 with 1282 views | flynnbo |
| Kolli on 19:26 - Dec 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Well of course Stéphan isn’t lying about Kolli being injured: if this wasn’t true then we all know Kolli’s Dad would’ve 100% called it out on social media by now. |
Ian McCullough confirmed to me that Kolli is injured. |  | | |
| Kolli on 20:33 - Dec 8 with 1165 views | connell10 |
| Kolli on 17:57 - Dec 8 by nick_hammersmith |
It's not bad, when you look at it without context.
I think most will agree that to try and balance the books and turn the ocean tanker around QPR need to become a selling club. We can't hold out for an Eze every 10 years, it should be a steady stream of development, which allows the club to sell a player, with a new one coming along the conveyor belt ready to deputise.
This whole story isn't bad, its just disappointing.
Most people might have seen "something" in the way Kolli has played that suggests there might be a player in there.
Most people would love to see someone who started in the kids team make it into the first team.
But, I just don't think we've seen enough to realise if we are about to let a good one go without much benefit
OR, I could be wrong and hes the next Taylor Richards, or Sinclair Armstrong!
Just a big shame really. I don't imagine the current management would have given Adel a fair crack in the first team either.
Watching Adel play was a real bright spot for me in recentish years. |
Or Stan Bowles! I like Kolli, he has that class look about him and Chair said he is the most skillful player in Squad . I think it would be criminal if we lose a talented young player. | |
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| Kolli on 21:23 - Dec 8 with 1039 views | wombat |
| Kolli on 20:33 - Dec 8 by connell10 |
Or Stan Bowles! I like Kolli, he has that class look about him and Chair said he is the most skillful player in Squad . I think it would be criminal if we lose a talented young player. |
Here we go again ,another 20 page thread on a player who’s barely played for us . And in all honestly wont be here much longer . If the club an engineer the very successful dev squad coach out of the door after so many years ,they won’t blink and eyelid doing the same to aplayer they would likely get a few million for in Jan who’s family allegedly rubbed the man child ceo the wrong way on a few occasions this and last season .esp when the spin will be it’s money to Edwards perm transfer.
Lbs the club will wish Kolli wellland the rumours will then start on what sell on clause we managed to get if he bangs a few goals in , |  |
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| Kolli on 14:42 - Dec 10 with 565 views | TK1 |
Did everyone notice that Kolli was on the pitch at the end of the game in club tracksuit, laughing with his team mates and applauding the fans, looking for all the world like an integral member of the squad who might be injured? | | | |
| Kolli on 07:06 - Dec 11 with 290 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Kolli on 14:42 - Dec 10 by TK1 |
Did everyone notice that Kolli was on the pitch at the end of the game in club tracksuit, laughing with his team mates and applauding the fans, looking for all the world like an integral member of the squad who might be injured? |
We’ll all interpret it the way that suites whatever side of the QPR culture war we fall on won’t we.
I still find it funny he’s considered integral but injured now it’s convenient but was unselectable when he was fit.
Anyway, time will tell I guess. If he starts getting lots of time on pitch in January I’ll happily eat my words. | | | |
| Kolli on 07:10 - Dec 11 with 273 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kolli on 21:23 - Dec 8 by wombat |
Here we go again ,another 20 page thread on a player who’s barely played for us . And in all honestly wont be here much longer . If the club an engineer the very successful dev squad coach out of the door after so many years ,they won’t blink and eyelid doing the same to aplayer they would likely get a few million for in Jan who’s family allegedly rubbed the man child ceo the wrong way on a few occasions this and last season .esp when the spin will be it’s money to Edwards perm transfer.
Lbs the club will wish Kolli wellland the rumours will then start on what sell on clause we managed to get if he bangs a few goals in , |
TBF, if that happened it would be the best outcome for everyone. | |
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