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The manager mentioned in a post-match interview that Whatmuff was going to play at Brackley, but reported ill on the morning of the game. If some choose not to believe that, that's on them.
It was clearly implied by McNulty, and documented in print, that he wasn't happy at having to play three games between Wednesday evening and Monday afternoon (Gateshead, Brackley and Sutton). His team selection was trying to make a point to the National League.
He also referenced last season when Dale played at York (Tuesday) and at home to Forest Green (Saturday) before having to make the long trip to Yeovil on Bank Holiday Monday, when EEL picked-up an injury early in the game.
Was that injury a result of three matches in such a short time? Only the manager and his staff know, but no doubt that formed part of his thinking this time around, especially with the Gateshead game being 24 hours later than the York game a year earlier.
In 2023/24, Dale played at York on August Bank Holiday Monday, but had moved their previous game (Bromley at home) to the Friday night in order to give more time before the Monday. There wasn't a midweek game before the Bromley match on that occasion.
I know that Dale asked the National League to move the Gateshead game back 24 hours, but they were told it wasn't possible because of the DAZN agreement.
And before anyone says it, I also know there were 23 other clubs affected by this schedule, but we should only be concerned for ourselves.
I thought it was poor of the National League to schedule that midweek of the Gateshead match how they did. They should have put a full midweek programme after the opening day (w/c 11th Aug) and moved the National League Cup games to the following midweek (w/c 18th Aug) before Bank Holiday weekend, as clubs wouldn't be fielding full strength teams in those matches.
Or, at least allowed all 24 teams to play on the same night (Tuesday), with two games in three days to follow.
Regardless of all this, the team we put out at Brackley should still have been good enough to avoid defeat, but if you mess with the Footballing Gods, you're on thin ice. However, there is no guarantee the team that beat Gateshead so convincingly would have a won at Brackley. If football was so linear, we'd all be millionaires (Rodney).
Do I agree with what McNulty did? No, not one bit, but if he's being accused of disrespect to Brackley by thinking we 'could just rock up expecting to win', then isn't it also disrespectful to Brackley assuming the Dale team which beat Gateshead would themselves 'just rock up' and win?
I am also guessing that he realises it backfired on him and he won't do anything like that ever again. His intentions were honourable, but perhaps the process was way too radical.
Despite that defeat, we have since picked up 64 points out of 75 available, which nobody would have expected. And in the bigger picture, the loss at York is arguably the most important of the season to date, given they are our nearest challengers.
[Post edited 13 Feb 21:14]
McNulty's job is to pick his strongest team to win a football match, not to try to make a point over how the fixtures are scheduled by changing his entire team. It's not about what makes McNulty happy or not, those who schedule the fixtures wont factor that into their thinking so his stance was only harming our own chances of winning the game, it was naive at best and reckless at worst. The games have to be played and looking at the fixtures over Xmas and New Year for example the scheduling was ok. He's been a pro footballer for a long time he knows these schedules crop up from time to time.
We gave ourselves the best chance at York with the team selection and didn't field a different starting eleven to the previous game, that's the crux of the discussion. I could mention team selection the previous season at York that i think cost us and has never been repeated but i wont. A strong line up at Brackley would have probably won the game, i don't think anybody could dispute that having witnessed the game, previous game and how this season has panned out. There is also a counter argument that his team selection and substitutions since that game have clawed back those dropped points and repaired the damage, i think that would be a fair assement. Another example of a young manager making mistakes on the job but getting better and better.
I think criticism of McNulty last season in certain games was warranted and also in respect of the Brackley game, it has to be balanced up though with the many things he's got right and he receives plenty of praise for that. We discuss everything on here good and bad, there's no doubt McNulty's stock is quickly rising and rightly so.
McNulty's job is to pick his strongest team to win a football match, not to try to make a point over how the fixtures are scheduled by changing his entire team. It's not about what makes McNulty happy or not, those who schedule the fixtures wont factor that into their thinking so his stance was only harming our own chances of winning the game, it was naive at best and reckless at worst. The games have to be played and looking at the fixtures over Xmas and New Year for example the scheduling was ok. He's been a pro footballer for a long time he knows these schedules crop up from time to time.
We gave ourselves the best chance at York with the team selection and didn't field a different starting eleven to the previous game, that's the crux of the discussion. I could mention team selection the previous season at York that i think cost us and has never been repeated but i wont. A strong line up at Brackley would have probably won the game, i don't think anybody could dispute that having witnessed the game, previous game and how this season has panned out. There is also a counter argument that his team selection and substitutions since that game have clawed back those dropped points and repaired the damage, i think that would be a fair assement. Another example of a young manager making mistakes on the job but getting better and better.
I think criticism of McNulty last season in certain games was warranted and also in respect of the Brackley game, it has to be balanced up though with the many things he's got right and he receives plenty of praise for that. We discuss everything on here good and bad, there's no doubt McNulty's stock is quickly rising and rightly so.
[Post edited 14 Feb 1:50]
Read my post again.
I didn’t disagree with what you were saying about the team selection; I was just giving some factual context.
The Football League hasn’t had August Bank Holiday Monday fixtures since 2005 and McNulty made his league debut 12 months later, so that sort of scheduling is something he won’t have experienced as a player.
As you say, though, Christmas and New Year was fine, with the longer gaps between games. If we get back into the EFL, that’s likely to not be the case so he will have to adjust.
Anyway, I’m off to Somerset (I’ll get your pint off samueloneills); you get back to your island. There must be more pictures to be taken…
[Post edited 14 Feb 7:29]
Maestro? No.
Elite? No.
Heavyweight poster? No.
Able to be rational and not over-react to individual results? Yes.
I didn’t disagree with what you were saying about the team selection; I was just giving some factual context.
The Football League hasn’t had August Bank Holiday Monday fixtures since 2005 and McNulty made his league debut 12 months later, so that sort of scheduling is something he won’t have experienced as a player.
As you say, though, Christmas and New Year was fine, with the longer gaps between games. If we get back into the EFL, that’s likely to not be the case so he will have to adjust.
Anyway, I’m off to Somerset (I’ll get your pint off samueloneills); you get back to your island. There must be more pictures to be taken…
[Post edited 14 Feb 7:29]
I haven't taken any pictures and if you don't like the ones that you've seen then ignore them. Don't tell me what to do neither, i left school over 40 years ago. Enjoy your free pint.
I didn’t disagree with what you were saying about the team selection; I was just giving some factual context.
The Football League hasn’t had August Bank Holiday Monday fixtures since 2005 and McNulty made his league debut 12 months later, so that sort of scheduling is something he won’t have experienced as a player.
As you say, though, Christmas and New Year was fine, with the longer gaps between games. If we get back into the EFL, that’s likely to not be the case so he will have to adjust.
Anyway, I’m off to Somerset (I’ll get your pint off samueloneills); you get back to your island. There must be more pictures to be taken…
[Post edited 14 Feb 7:29]
Look me up when you get there. I`ll be the one with the big smile when the winning goal goes in.
Having looked over it if we can get 9 more wins, which would be 5 of our 6 home games & 4 away that puts in 106 points with 4 games to draw/lose & just see where that takes us.
York will be feeling unbeatable just now. But there is no way they will win every game.
We are still there with them, and we must do everything possible to hang on within striking distance right up to the last match. No talk of clinching 2nd spot or only being the 2nd year of a 3 year project.. We have a great squad and may never get a better chance than this.
York will be feeling unbeatable just now. But there is no way they will win every game.
We are still there with them, and we must do everything possible to hang on within striking distance right up to the last match. No talk of clinching 2nd spot or only being the 2nd year of a 3 year project.. We have a great squad and may never get a better chance than this.
Don`t panic Jim.
Yes - we dont need to think about next Tuesday's game or a week on Saturday. Beat Aldershot - then go from there.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
For me if we get to 5 points behind, and looking desperate for the title, i think then ill have comfy thoughts on 2nd place.
Currently i cant see past aldershot, winning it. Even though another tester and are going to come at us. I see Dale victorious and on track for the title.
If not reasses after the weekend. Its Game by game.
For what it’s worth York have apparently scored nine stoppage time goals this season to Dale’s one. That’s the highest and lowest in the NL respectively. Not sure what conclusions can be drawn from that.
For what it’s worth York have apparently scored nine stoppage time goals this season to Dale’s one. That’s the highest and lowest in the NL respectively. Not sure what conclusions can be drawn from that.
None without context.
I've already had this debate elsewhere.
For starters, you would have to look at how crucial those goals were. Both teams have won the vast majority of their games well before stoppage time, so maybe the difference in those goals isn't as important as it might seem.
From memory, York gained a point on Boxing Day in added time, and then two points v Hartlepool a few weeks ago, so that's three points without looking at their other added time goals.
Dale gained two points at Solihull. Gilmour's winning goal v Southend was in the 90th minute, so not quite in stoppage time.
Dale have also won more games than York, but drawn half as many and lost twice as many.
We have also lost only two points in added time all season (on Tuesday night). No idea what the York figure is.
As Mark Twain said about statistics....
Maestro? No.
Elite? No.
Heavyweight poster? No.
Able to be rational and not over-react to individual results? Yes.
For starters, you would have to look at how crucial those goals were. Both teams have won the vast majority of their games well before stoppage time, so maybe the difference in those goals isn't as important as it might seem.
From memory, York gained a point on Boxing Day in added time, and then two points v Hartlepool a few weeks ago, so that's three points without looking at their other added time goals.
Dale gained two points at Solihull. Gilmour's winning goal v Southend was in the 90th minute, so not quite in stoppage time.
Dale have also won more games than York, but drawn half as many and lost twice as many.
We have also lost only two points in added time all season (on Tuesday night). No idea what the York figure is.
As Mark Twain said about statistics....
Indeed. Without checking, before our recent spate of draws we have always seen out games after taking the lead. Hence little need for a late goal. Compare this to York who have needed later goals to gain points when they were drawing/losing.
What has changed as seen at Yeovil and Halifax has been the inability to retain a lead once we get in front. On both occasions the opposition responded straight after we scored (even though at the Shay it was when we went two up!). Compare this to the win at Forest Green for instance. We dropped off in the second half, looked to hit them on the break and did this very effectively. Smith missed two sitters but we still looked very solid and took the 3 points in a performance that was lauded.
At Halifax we did similar, this time Smith finishes off a chance and we take what looks like an unassailable lead. We don’t look at all solid and concede twice in five minutes. There can be all the talk in the world about tactical choices, many of them valid concerns, but football matches often come down to individuals doing their jobs when it matters. Smith didn’t, the defence did. Smith did, the defence didn’t. Anything else is just noise.
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