| All cooperball you know nothing. 16:46 - Aug 20 with 4162 views | Swans9 |
I always stuck up for cooper tried his best without yanks support the ones gave him stick knew nothing. Look my past posts. Cooper tried for swans glad I not friends of any Cooperball haters clueless. |  | | |  |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:24 - Aug 20 with 2777 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
'Yanks' have put £13m into the club. The 21% Welsh shareholder gave £400k to English lawyers and insurers. The 21% Welsh owner has a reported £1.3m in the bank and has avoided contributing anything to the convertible loan note.
They are saving for the long term getting no interest on their saving with 10 % inflation. This means a devaluation of £130,000 per year. 'Taffy' or 'Jack' is the one that has to put their hands in their pocket. Fans can make it happen but do not want to. |  |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:33 - Aug 20 with 2755 views | Treforys_Jack |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:24 - Aug 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
'Yanks' have put £13m into the club. The 21% Welsh shareholder gave £400k to English lawyers and insurers. The 21% Welsh owner has a reported £1.3m in the bank and has avoided contributing anything to the convertible loan note.
They are saving for the long term getting no interest on their saving with 10 % inflation. This means a devaluation of £130,000 per year. 'Taffy' or 'Jack' is the one that has to put their hands in their pocket. Fans can make it happen but do not want to. |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:38 - Aug 20 with 2754 views | Dr_Winston |
Cooper failed despite being heavily backed. Martin is failing despite being heavily backed. Fin. |  |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:45 - Aug 20 with 2723 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:38 - Aug 20 by Dr_Winston |
Cooper failed despite being heavily backed. Martin is failing despite being heavily backed. Fin. |
Cooper wasn’t heavily backed, don’t talk nonsense.
He should have been, but wasn't.
He had to play in the cheap loan market with no signing on fees, limited fee outlay and subsidised wages. |  |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:46 - Aug 20 with 2735 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:33 - Aug 20 by Treforys_Jack |
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What is the SCST strategy for protection against inflation? For the first time in their life the 'Inflation' word looms large. 10%+.
£500,000 on its way. Invest it in the club or it will melt away. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 21:58 - Aug 20 with 2710 views | jasper_T |
Fans want manager to be backed with money the club doesn't have. Just show some ambition, mun. Who cares if we go bankrupt or generate Cardiff amounts of debt we can never repay. Oh wait now why are we selling our best players when PL clubs come calling...
Cooper had a player earning £5m a year on his own. 1/3rd of the income of the whole football club even without a pandemic. Not Cooper's fault, he didn't sign him, but have a sense of perspective this isn't fantasy football where you get a fresh budget and clean slate every summer. | | | |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 22:06 - Aug 20 with 2687 views | Gwyn737 |
I didn’t enjoy the two seasons under Cooper. I was bored.
I’m not enjoying Martin’s tenure. It’s differently boring.
They’re two separate thoughts - I don’t feel the need to make comparisons. | | | |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 23:01 - Aug 20 with 2626 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 22:06 - Aug 20 by Gwyn737 |
I didn’t enjoy the two seasons under Cooper. I was bored.
I’m not enjoying Martin’s tenure. It’s differently boring.
They’re two separate thoughts - I don’t feel the need to make comparisons. |
Swansea fans have been spoilt over the years with Jenkins calling the shots. His last choice was Potter.
Cooper will never be adequately backed and he will always complain. Give him £120m and he will send it as he is now in fact. If he fails he will say it was not enough.
Martin is now in a bad spot. I am intrigued as to why Calderwood did not come after it was seen as a matter of details to resolved. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 23:11 - Aug 20 with 2601 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 22:06 - Aug 20 by Gwyn737 |
I didn’t enjoy the two seasons under Cooper. I was bored.
I’m not enjoying Martin’s tenure. It’s differently boring.
They’re two separate thoughts - I don’t feel the need to make comparisons. |
Nobody seemed to enjoy football at the time, throughout the country.
That was the downside of football continuing behind closed doors with no crowds.
You can be sure if Cooper had us in 3rd or 4th, the crowd would be a lot happier than they are with Martin in 19th/20th… regardless of what people will pretend. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:18 - Aug 21 with 2466 views | BryanSwan |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 23:11 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nobody seemed to enjoy football at the time, throughout the country.
That was the downside of football continuing behind closed doors with no crowds.
You can be sure if Cooper had us in 3rd or 4th, the crowd would be a lot happier than they are with Martin in 19th/20th… regardless of what people will pretend. |
I don't think Cooper would've seen out the 2 years if fans were allowed in, most of the games and football was abysmal.
I'm just as unhappy with the way things are now under Martin. Although a few more bad losses and he'll probably be gone soon anyway. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:29 - Aug 21 with 2451 views | Gwyn737 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 23:11 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nobody seemed to enjoy football at the time, throughout the country.
That was the downside of football continuing behind closed doors with no crowds.
You can be sure if Cooper had us in 3rd or 4th, the crowd would be a lot happier than they are with Martin in 19th/20th… regardless of what people will pretend. |
I’m not commenting on the crowd, merely my own opinion.
If he’d have got us promoted I’d have been chuffed of course, but I still wouldn’t have enjoyed the season overall.
I wish the bloke no ill will and hope he does well with Forest, especially with the Welsh boys there. | | | |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:35 - Aug 21 with 2425 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:18 - Aug 21 by BryanSwan |
I don't think Cooper would've seen out the 2 years if fans were allowed in, most of the games and football was abysmal.
I'm just as unhappy with the way things are now under Martin. Although a few more bad losses and he'll probably be gone soon anyway. |
There is absolutely no way the majority of the crowd would have been on his back for 6th and 4th.
Simply no way. It’s just noisy people on the internet.
As I said, top 4 and 6 under Cooper would attract a far happier crowd than 15th and 19th under Martin.
Cooper and his team are now 11th in the Premier League and we pretty much gave him to them, and paid MK Dons for the privilege of the plight we find ourselves.
Embarrassing. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:36 - Aug 21 with 2421 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:29 - Aug 21 by Gwyn737 |
I’m not commenting on the crowd, merely my own opinion.
If he’d have got us promoted I’d have been chuffed of course, but I still wouldn’t have enjoyed the season overall.
I wish the bloke no ill will and hope he does well with Forest, especially with the Welsh boys there. |
Yep that’s what I mean, nobody really enjoyed football at that time. Football was played behind closed doors, no passion or excitement in the game at that time. It sucked a lot of soul out of the game globally. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:40 - Aug 21 with 2420 views | Headmaster |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:18 - Aug 21 by BryanSwan |
I don't think Cooper would've seen out the 2 years if fans were allowed in, most of the games and football was abysmal.
I'm just as unhappy with the way things are now under Martin. Although a few more bad losses and he'll probably be gone soon anyway. |
I feel the same. We were mostly awful to watch under Cooper but at least we won games. We are mostly awful to watch under Martin but we hardly win.
We need a change but it starts at the top. |  | | |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:42 - Aug 21 with 2414 views | vetchonian |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:36 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yep that’s what I mean, nobody really enjoyed football at that time. Football was played behind closed doors, no passion or excitement in the game at that time. It sucked a lot of soul out of the game globally. |
imagine watching the current fare being served to us under the circumstances we watched Cooprball...I wonder if those avid supporters of Martin would be so vocal with support of him then | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:50 - Aug 21 with 2384 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:42 - Aug 21 by vetchonian |
imagine watching the current fare being served to us under the circumstances we watched Cooprball...I wonder if those avid supporters of Martin would be so vocal with support of him then |
Probably to be fair. Martin has some kind of spell on some people, for reasons I can’t fathom.
Never in my life have I seen our fan base write off 14 months of football completely needlessly and still try and make excuses for abject failure from a manager that has never succeeded anywhere.
It’s pretty stunning. Cooper had already made the play offs and was on his way to a second successive play off finish by this time in his reign.
I really enjoyed Coopers football, made complete sense given what we had. As long as the plan makes perfect sense and we are getting the best out of the squad at our disposal then I’m happy.
As opposed to playing a rigid, senseless system without even the correct positional players to play the awful system. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:02 - Aug 21 with 2366 views | Gwyn737 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:36 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yep that’s what I mean, nobody really enjoyed football at that time. Football was played behind closed doors, no passion or excitement in the game at that time. It sucked a lot of soul out of the game globally. |
I enjoyed quite a lot for the football played by teams other than us through that period.
Also Cooper had the best part of 6 months before the shut down. I remember being at Luton away Christmas 2019. It’s what I’d call the typical Cooper performance of the time. 80 odd minutes of nothing then Ayew bundles one in.
We won but I was bored senseless. | | | |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:10 - Aug 21 with 2353 views | onehunglow |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:02 - Aug 21 by Gwyn737 |
I enjoyed quite a lot for the football played by teams other than us through that period.
Also Cooper had the best part of 6 months before the shut down. I remember being at Luton away Christmas 2019. It’s what I’d call the typical Cooper performance of the time. 80 odd minutes of nothing then Ayew bundles one in.
We won but I was bored senseless. |
I never get bored with winning and come to think of it losing.
Out of the two,I d rather win. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:23 - Aug 21 with 2326 views | jojaca |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 08:50 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Probably to be fair. Martin has some kind of spell on some people, for reasons I can’t fathom.
Never in my life have I seen our fan base write off 14 months of football completely needlessly and still try and make excuses for abject failure from a manager that has never succeeded anywhere.
It’s pretty stunning. Cooper had already made the play offs and was on his way to a second successive play off finish by this time in his reign.
I really enjoyed Coopers football, made complete sense given what we had. As long as the plan makes perfect sense and we are getting the best out of the squad at our disposal then I’m happy.
As opposed to playing a rigid, senseless system without even the correct positional players to play the awful system. |
Cooper done the best with available tools given, but his football was boring and the stats were pretty bad apart from the results column, he is also one of the luckiest coaches I have witnessed. Normally watching the Swans, we always feel on the wrong end of English referees, but Cooper was different we seemed to use up our luck in is reign.
When we signed Russell Martin, I could never imagine the football we have witnessed the past season and a bit. I have never seen a manager gift teams so many chances game after game in order to protect is ideology. You have to get the basics right first like Cooper did and then you build the team in your own image. I still get this niggling feeling Russell will make it eventually, but it won't be with us. I see him being like Rodgers at Reading and then some random club taking a chance on him like we did with Rodgers. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 9:24]
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:35 - Aug 21 with 2299 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:02 - Aug 21 by Gwyn737 |
I enjoyed quite a lot for the football played by teams other than us through that period.
Also Cooper had the best part of 6 months before the shut down. I remember being at Luton away Christmas 2019. It’s what I’d call the typical Cooper performance of the time. 80 odd minutes of nothing then Ayew bundles one in.
We won but I was bored senseless. |
It wasn’t “nothing” though, it was defensive football. The beautiful game comes in many forms and give me Coopers winning defensive masterclass football over this dross any day of the week.
His type of football put the likes of Guehi on the map. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:51 - Aug 21 with 2275 views | Gwyn737 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:35 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
It wasn’t “nothing” though, it was defensive football. The beautiful game comes in many forms and give me Coopers winning defensive masterclass football over this dross any day of the week.
His type of football put the likes of Guehi on the map. |
I’ll rephrase.
Nothing happened of any interest to me. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 9:52]
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:54 - Aug 21 with 2264 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:51 - Aug 21 by Gwyn737 |
I’ll rephrase.
Nothing happened of any interest to me. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 9:52]
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If you only like all out attacking football I suppose. But the game is far more nuanced than that.
There is a reason we were the 6th and 4th best team in the league, and luck it most certainly wasn’t. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 10:16 - Aug 21 with 2254 views | BryanSwan |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:54 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
If you only like all out attacking football I suppose. But the game is far more nuanced than that.
There is a reason we were the 6th and 4th best team in the league, and luck it most certainly wasn’t. |
Defensive 1 nil football is boring. Is it tactical and interesting, yes. But as a spectacle it is a terrible watch.
We were 17th for XG and 21st for shots per game.
Whats done is done though.
Martin is currently have massive issues defensively and offensively an I just cant see him fixing it. Blaming the owners for the poor squad is rather laughable when you consider the Luton squad and how they had a 37? year old Cameron Jerome playing. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 10:18 - Aug 21 with 2247 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 10:16 - Aug 21 by BryanSwan |
Defensive 1 nil football is boring. Is it tactical and interesting, yes. But as a spectacle it is a terrible watch.
We were 17th for XG and 21st for shots per game.
Whats done is done though.
Martin is currently have massive issues defensively and offensively an I just cant see him fixing it. Blaming the owners for the poor squad is rather laughable when you consider the Luton squad and how they had a 37? year old Cameron Jerome playing. |
Boring to some maybe. Chelsea won the league under Mourinho doing that, their fans regard it as one of their best eras.
xG is not something I pay any attention to. | |
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| All cooperball you know nothing. on 10:28 - Aug 21 with 2231 views | Gwyn737 |
| All cooperball you know nothing. on 09:54 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
If you only like all out attacking football I suppose. But the game is far more nuanced than that.
There is a reason we were the 6th and 4th best team in the league, and luck it most certainly wasn’t. |
Doesn’t need to be all out attacking. I’d settle for occasionally positive - a forward pass every now and then.
And yes, if Chelsea’s title winning side were playing in my garden I’d close the curtains.
I watch sport to be entertained, winning is the cherry on top. I love the anticipation, the hope, the opportunity to be surprised.
Distilling it to figures and stats (however correct they may be) sucks the joy out of it for me.
As I said before, my stance is not in support of RM. Now instead of being bored I’m borderline terrified! | | | |
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