| The Price of a feeble US President 13:39 - Feb 25 with 6577 views | ExBaselSaint |
Meanwhile as we continue our navel gazing by obsessing over white- privilege and pro-nouns, the price of a feeble, wokeist captive of a US President will cause us all hardship.
Just wait 'till China kick-off.
They've amassed more than 6,000 nuclear missiles for a reason you know.
Interesting that our enfeebling culture of self-hatred is ironically called 'progressive'
..And all the Lefties on here thought they would be running the Gulags, they'll just be inmates now
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:25 - Feb 26 with 1624 views | Chesham_Saint |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:05 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
Interesting. I came today to see if I could spot the sort of anti-West comments that I have been hearing about.
Sure enough, this thread.
Those right-wingers who are using the psychotic acts of a despot to criticise the ‘woke’ West are a disgrace. Trump would have sold Ukraine down the river at the drop of a hat.
And to think these same people had the gall to refer to remainders as traitors. You couldn’t f*ckin make it up.
And for what it’s worth, this may be one role that Boris Johnson is suited for. As was said above, Ukrainians seem grateful for the UK’s response to date. I may be wrong, but I do believe that Johnson is genuinely committed to liberal values in a way that the likes of Trump and all the other c*nts who would much prefer an autocracy are not. |
All very good, especially the bit about "remainders"... |  |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:27 - Feb 26 with 1613 views | DorsetIan |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:25 - Feb 26 by Chesham_Saint |
All very good, especially the bit about "remainders"... |
I meant remaindeers. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:39 - Feb 26 with 1607 views | Saintsforeverj |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:05 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
Interesting. I came today to see if I could spot the sort of anti-West comments that I have been hearing about.
Sure enough, this thread.
Those right-wingers who are using the psychotic acts of a despot to criticise the ‘woke’ West are a disgrace. Trump would have sold Ukraine down the river at the drop of a hat.
And to think these same people had the gall to refer to remainders as traitors. You couldn’t f*ckin make it up.
And for what it’s worth, this may be one role that Boris Johnson is suited for. As was said above, Ukrainians seem grateful for the UK’s response to date. I may be wrong, but I do believe that Johnson is genuinely committed to liberal values in a way that the likes of Trump and all the other c*nts who would much prefer an autocracy are not. |
I think you're right about Boris Johnson being suited to this situation but I don't think your point about right wingers is fair. Trump was a lunatic. But the fact is there weren't any wars during his time. Did he or did he not deal with N Korea well, so much so that he was standing next to King John un side by side? With Biden at the helm, would you not agree that the chaotic scenes in Afghanistan, when the Taliban took over in 2 days, were nothing short of disgraceful? Troops pulled out without any plan, comments that empowered the Taliban and woeful naivety leading to Afgan people starving to death. Now we have an evil dictator in Putin threatening to kill us all and all Biden could say in response to what Putin said was "I don't know what he means".
Would you not want to see some fighting talk, some threats back, things that I'm sure Trump would have done? After all, his response, to N Korea when they were threatening war, was much stronger than Biden's and resulted in peace. That's a fact, nothing to do with left or right really. Trump being a lunatic perhaps kept Putin at bay? [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 13:42]
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:42 - Feb 26 with 1594 views | Chesham_Saint |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:27 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
I meant remaindeers. |
 Of course. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:03 - Feb 26 with 1562 views | Sadoldgit |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:06 - Feb 26 with 1558 views | Sadoldgit |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 20:24 - Feb 25 by JaySaint |
As NATO rally together, you'd rather have Corbyn
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It really doesn’t matter what I think as we are stuck with Johnson. We will never know how Corbyn (or Starmer for that matter) would have dealt with the situation. You assume, through your prejudice, that Corbyn would have been useless. We will never know but I suspect there would be no one in his cabinet openly talking having kicked Russia’s arse before and doing it again. | | | |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:14 - Feb 26 with 1544 views | DorsetIan |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:39 - Feb 26 by Saintsforeverj |
I think you're right about Boris Johnson being suited to this situation but I don't think your point about right wingers is fair. Trump was a lunatic. But the fact is there weren't any wars during his time. Did he or did he not deal with N Korea well, so much so that he was standing next to King John un side by side? With Biden at the helm, would you not agree that the chaotic scenes in Afghanistan, when the Taliban took over in 2 days, were nothing short of disgraceful? Troops pulled out without any plan, comments that empowered the Taliban and woeful naivety leading to Afgan people starving to death. Now we have an evil dictator in Putin threatening to kill us all and all Biden could say in response to what Putin said was "I don't know what he means".
Would you not want to see some fighting talk, some threats back, things that I'm sure Trump would have done? After all, his response, to N Korea when they were threatening war, was much stronger than Biden's and resulted in peace. That's a fact, nothing to do with left or right really. Trump being a lunatic perhaps kept Putin at bay? [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 13:42]
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Trump did not believe in democracy. He tried to overturn a fair election in the country that defined what it is to be a modern democracy. He had no interest in people’s rights or liberties. Like any aspiring autocrat he was interested only in his own power. (And many of them use democratic processes to achieve power and then dismantled them).
Anyone who looks to Trump as some kind of beacon of hope for the security of democratic, free peoples is barking up a very very tall wrong tree.
An independent nation has been invaded by an aggressive, violent Russian autocrat. A Russian autocrat that was previously praised by Trump, Farage - all the usual f*ckers.
The Ukrainian people seem to be fighting hard. It is reminiscent of Hungary in 1956.
Anyone who is struggling to apportion blame or to pick a side at this time, is not seeing the wood for trees.
So forget your culture wars, this is what a battle for freedom looks like.
Anyone trying to bring ‘woke’ into the debate has a completely different agenda. They don’t believe in freedom or democracy. They never have. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:24 - Feb 26 with 1541 views | Saintsforeverj |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:14 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
Trump did not believe in democracy. He tried to overturn a fair election in the country that defined what it is to be a modern democracy. He had no interest in people’s rights or liberties. Like any aspiring autocrat he was interested only in his own power. (And many of them use democratic processes to achieve power and then dismantled them).
Anyone who looks to Trump as some kind of beacon of hope for the security of democratic, free peoples is barking up a very very tall wrong tree.
An independent nation has been invaded by an aggressive, violent Russian autocrat. A Russian autocrat that was previously praised by Trump, Farage - all the usual f*ckers.
The Ukrainian people seem to be fighting hard. It is reminiscent of Hungary in 1956.
Anyone who is struggling to apportion blame or to pick a side at this time, is not seeing the wood for trees.
So forget your culture wars, this is what a battle for freedom looks like.
Anyone trying to bring ‘woke’ into the debate has a completely different agenda. They don’t believe in freedom or democracy. They never have. |
You think Biden has enabled hope for the security of democratic free people's in Afghanistan? The people there are being tortured and are starving to death. Whilst I agree about many of the points made about Trump, you can't bring yourself to admit that Biden is a sleepy, far too old, out of his depth president, who is according to polls the most unpopular American president in history. He may be this and that, which I don't disagree with, but did Trump deal with N Korea well, yes or no? What about the people in Ukraine being killed and Putin threatening to nuclear bomb any country that intervenes? The response from the leader of the world was very timid and weak. America are key, whether we like it or not. Putin needs to be stopped. The world's leaders are weak, in particular the American president. That's why Putin has timed his invasion for now. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 14:46]
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:24 - Feb 26 with 1539 views | Chesham_Saint |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:06 - Feb 26 by Sadoldgit |
It really doesn’t matter what I think as we are stuck with Johnson. We will never know how Corbyn (or Starmer for that matter) would have dealt with the situation. You assume, through your prejudice, that Corbyn would have been useless. We will never know but I suspect there would be no one in his cabinet openly talking having kicked Russia’s arse before and doing it again. |
Oh for goodness sake Sogs! Its not "prejudice" to assume that Corbyn would have been useless. You only have to remember the way he couldn't bring himself to condemn the Russians for the novichok attack in Salisbury to realise the man's a political pygmy trapped in the student politics of the 60s, In short, a naive, resentful and humourless man who'd be massively out of his depth in a puddle. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:54 - Feb 26 with 1507 views | Bison |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:24 - Feb 26 by Saintsforeverj |
You think Biden has enabled hope for the security of democratic free people's in Afghanistan? The people there are being tortured and are starving to death. Whilst I agree about many of the points made about Trump, you can't bring yourself to admit that Biden is a sleepy, far too old, out of his depth president, who is according to polls the most unpopular American president in history. He may be this and that, which I don't disagree with, but did Trump deal with N Korea well, yes or no? What about the people in Ukraine being killed and Putin threatening to nuclear bomb any country that intervenes? The response from the leader of the world was very timid and weak. America are key, whether we like it or not. Putin needs to be stopped. The world's leaders are weak, in particular the American president. That's why Putin has timed his invasion for now. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 14:46]
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To be fair all Biden did was follow Trumps schedule for withdrawal from Afghanistan , Trump was planning to do the same thing. But Biden is pretty crap and doesn't inspire confidence whilst Trump is basically megalomaniac , I would not of wanted him in power during this period of History. Surely there must be a 3rd option for America ? |  |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 15:09 - Feb 26 with 1501 views | Saintsforeverj |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:54 - Feb 26 by Bison |
To be fair all Biden did was follow Trumps schedule for withdrawal from Afghanistan , Trump was planning to do the same thing. But Biden is pretty crap and doesn't inspire confidence whilst Trump is basically megalomaniac , I would not of wanted him in power during this period of History. Surely there must be a 3rd option for America ? |
The point being that if Biden was the humanistic, democratic, caring person he said he was, he could have changed the plan that has left Afghan people starving to death. Trump planned it, Biden agreed with it and carried it out, so he is no better. The result is a very dangerous group in power, starving its people to death. Now I'm watching another very dangerous dictator, taking over a country, tanks driving over innocent people, Putin threatening to blow us all up, if we intervene. The response was absolutely nothing to that threat. With the Taliban in power, China and Russia reigning strong, it's very dangerous times I think. But you're right, surely there are better options out there. America a huge country! [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 15:17]
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 16:07 - Feb 26 with 1475 views | DorsetIan |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:24 - Feb 26 by Saintsforeverj |
You think Biden has enabled hope for the security of democratic free people's in Afghanistan? The people there are being tortured and are starving to death. Whilst I agree about many of the points made about Trump, you can't bring yourself to admit that Biden is a sleepy, far too old, out of his depth president, who is according to polls the most unpopular American president in history. He may be this and that, which I don't disagree with, but did Trump deal with N Korea well, yes or no? What about the people in Ukraine being killed and Putin threatening to nuclear bomb any country that intervenes? The response from the leader of the world was very timid and weak. America are key, whether we like it or not. Putin needs to be stopped. The world's leaders are weak, in particular the American president. That's why Putin has timed his invasion for now. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 14:46]
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Trump achieved nothing with North Korea. Massive publicity stunts which merely gave Kim Yong-un recognition on the world stage. (Do you remember how he was feted like a pop star when in Singapore?)
Trump abandoned the Kurds.
Trump decided to withdraw from Afghanistan, a policy which Biden cack-handedly completed.
Trump achieved nothing in relation to Iran.
Trump began the whole ‘America first’ policy which focused on US isolation and NOT getting involved in foreign wars.
Much of the problem goes back to Bush/Blair and failed foreign interventions, and yes it’s a pity that the US has a president that is so old. But he was probably the only person who could have beaten Trump and that’s enough for me. Just like Putin has destroyed any sense of democracy in Russia, Trump tried to instal himself and his family as the autocratic rulers of the US. I feel a lot safer in my bed with Biden in the White House than that scumbag. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 16:28 - Feb 26 with 1466 views | Saintsforeverj |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 16:07 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
Trump achieved nothing with North Korea. Massive publicity stunts which merely gave Kim Yong-un recognition on the world stage. (Do you remember how he was feted like a pop star when in Singapore?)
Trump abandoned the Kurds.
Trump decided to withdraw from Afghanistan, a policy which Biden cack-handedly completed.
Trump achieved nothing in relation to Iran.
Trump began the whole ‘America first’ policy which focused on US isolation and NOT getting involved in foreign wars.
Much of the problem goes back to Bush/Blair and failed foreign interventions, and yes it’s a pity that the US has a president that is so old. But he was probably the only person who could have beaten Trump and that’s enough for me. Just like Putin has destroyed any sense of democracy in Russia, Trump tried to instal himself and his family as the autocratic rulers of the US. I feel a lot safer in my bed with Biden in the White House than that scumbag. |
I'm glad you feel safe in your bed at a time when the Taliban are strong and Putin is strong invading countries, with vast weapons, threatening to nuclear bomb any country that gets involved. Many people are very worried more now than a few years ago. You have to ask yourself why Putin chose now? Are we safer now with Putin on the warpath than we were a few years ago? I'm not sure we are safer but you feel safe, you are entitled to your opinion. Most people I speak to are very worried. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 16:39]
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:18 - Feb 26 with 1429 views | Sadoldgit |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 14:24 - Feb 26 by Chesham_Saint |
Oh for goodness sake Sogs! Its not "prejudice" to assume that Corbyn would have been useless. You only have to remember the way he couldn't bring himself to condemn the Russians for the novichok attack in Salisbury to realise the man's a political pygmy trapped in the student politics of the 60s, In short, a naive, resentful and humourless man who'd be massively out of his depth in a puddle. |
Again, we have no idea how a Labour government would have dealt with this crisis. Don’t forget Starmer would have been 2nd in command and has a strong view about this. Loads of people assumed that Johnson would be ok and look at the unholy mess he has made of most of his Premiership. He has also done bugger all to prevent the invasion so you can hardly claim that anyone else could have done more. | | | |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:22 - Feb 26 with 1424 views | Sadoldgit |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:19 - Feb 26 by PaleRider |
With all due respect, that wasn't the question! |
He was the only other option so given the alternative then yes. Would I rather have someone else? Yes, but we are stuck with Biden and that is a lot better than having Trump right now. | | | |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:31 - Feb 26 with 1408 views | DorsetIan |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 16:28 - Feb 26 by Saintsforeverj |
I'm glad you feel safe in your bed at a time when the Taliban are strong and Putin is strong invading countries, with vast weapons, threatening to nuclear bomb any country that gets involved. Many people are very worried more now than a few years ago. You have to ask yourself why Putin chose now? Are we safer now with Putin on the warpath than we were a few years ago? I'm not sure we are safer but you feel safe, you are entitled to your opinion. Most people I speak to are very worried. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 16:39]
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I said ‘safer’.
I am not complacent. These are dangerous times. But I am happy about the remarkable togetherness and resolve that ‘the West‘ is now showing. We won’t send troops, but everyone is sending arms and the sanctions imposed are not trivial.
Putin has galvanised the West, and he may even have miscalculated militarially. Let’s hope so. When you see pictures of old ladies making Molotov cocktails in Ukranian parks, you can know that these people are going to fight.
Putin Is the bad guy here, not Biden, and not those of us who support liberal values.
And looking at his crashing poll numbers, it seems that many more Americans are waking up to what an unpatriotic, self-serving, anti-democratic, dictator-loving c*nt Trump is. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:35 - Feb 26 with 1407 views | Saintsforeverj |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:31 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
I said ‘safer’.
I am not complacent. These are dangerous times. But I am happy about the remarkable togetherness and resolve that ‘the West‘ is now showing. We won’t send troops, but everyone is sending arms and the sanctions imposed are not trivial.
Putin has galvanised the West, and he may even have miscalculated militarially. Let’s hope so. When you see pictures of old ladies making Molotov cocktails in Ukranian parks, you can know that these people are going to fight.
Putin Is the bad guy here, not Biden, and not those of us who support liberal values.
And looking at his crashing poll numbers, it seems that many more Americans are waking up to what an unpatriotic, self-serving, anti-democratic, dictator-loving c*nt Trump is. |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/595919-62-perce
Really?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/25/politics/biden-poll-npr- [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 17:36]
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 18:44 - Feb 26 with 1366 views | Sadoldgit |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:31 - Feb 26 by DorsetIan |
I said ‘safer’.
I am not complacent. These are dangerous times. But I am happy about the remarkable togetherness and resolve that ‘the West‘ is now showing. We won’t send troops, but everyone is sending arms and the sanctions imposed are not trivial.
Putin has galvanised the West, and he may even have miscalculated militarially. Let’s hope so. When you see pictures of old ladies making Molotov cocktails in Ukranian parks, you can know that these people are going to fight.
Putin Is the bad guy here, not Biden, and not those of us who support liberal values.
And looking at his crashing poll numbers, it seems that many more Americans are waking up to what an unpatriotic, self-serving, anti-democratic, dictator-loving c*nt Trump is. |
I think this point is spot on, that Putin is the one we should be focussing on and not Biden. Putin knows that none of the Western leaders are going to put troops on the ground against him and risk WW3 so what else can any Western leader do apart from impose sanctions and provide military support? Biden isn’t weak, he just doesn’t have many cards to play with. | | | |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 21:07 - Feb 26 with 1316 views | DorsetIan |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 18:44 - Feb 26 by Sadoldgit |
I think this point is spot on, that Putin is the one we should be focussing on and not Biden. Putin knows that none of the Western leaders are going to put troops on the ground against him and risk WW3 so what else can any Western leader do apart from impose sanctions and provide military support? Biden isn’t weak, he just doesn’t have many cards to play with. |
There are always going to be people who side with the enemy and seek to cause division in the West. The good thing, I think, is that it’s becoming much clearer what their game is.
Because this isn’t a conflict where it Is difficult to pick a side. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 23:19 - Feb 26 with 1296 views | Chesham_Saint |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 17:18 - Feb 26 by Sadoldgit |
Again, we have no idea how a Labour government would have dealt with this crisis. Don’t forget Starmer would have been 2nd in command and has a strong view about this. Loads of people assumed that Johnson would be ok and look at the unholy mess he has made of most of his Premiership. He has also done bugger all to prevent the invasion so you can hardly claim that anyone else could have done more. |
Prevent the invasion? What do you think this is 1851?
What have France, Germany, Italy and the US done? | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 09:48 - Feb 27 with 1225 views | Sadoldgit |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 23:19 - Feb 26 by Chesham_Saint |
Prevent the invasion? What do you think this is 1851?
What have France, Germany, Italy and the US done? |
So why do you have a hypothetical dig at Corbyn when no one else has managed anything of consequence so far? It really doesn’t matter anyway because we are stuck with the man with a toddlers haircut dealing with the most serious crisis in decades and if it makes you feel more confident because Johnson isn’t Corbyn, so be it. | | | |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 13:34 - Feb 27 with 1167 views | Chesham_Saint |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 09:48 - Feb 27 by Sadoldgit |
So why do you have a hypothetical dig at Corbyn when no one else has managed anything of consequence so far? It really doesn’t matter anyway because we are stuck with the man with a toddlers haircut dealing with the most serious crisis in decades and if it makes you feel more confident because Johnson isn’t Corbyn, so be it. |
I’ll have a dig at any IRA supporter, as amongst their many, many atrocities I’ll never forget that poor lad in Warrington who was blown to bits whilst out shopping on a Saturday for a football kit. I despise Corbyn and his common room politics giving the likes of Gerry Adams tea and comfort. He might as well have French kissed Myra Hindley.
That said, I been careful not to decry Keir Starmer, so this isn’t an attack on your beloved Labour Party, just on one Useful Idiot. | |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 19:29 - Feb 27 with 1031 views | dwayne_dibley |
WW3 next week which will screw up PL fixtures |  |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 22:50 - Feb 27 with 938 views | 1885_SFC |
| The Price of a feeble US President on 19:29 - Feb 27 by dwayne_dibley |
WW3 next week which will screw up PL fixtures |
Poor old Geordies. Just as they become the world's richest football club - planet Earth gets obliterated. Bloody typical. |  |
| GET THE F*CK OUT OF THIS FOOTBALL CLUB SPORT REPUBLIC |
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| The Price of a feeble US President on 08:36 - Feb 28 with 898 views | saint68 |
I see North Korea are testing ballistic missiles again...sleepy Joe ain't up to the job unless it's as a dementia study patient....
Putin an embarrassment
Biden an embarrassment
Johnson an embarrassment most of the time but not in regards to the Putin situation
Macron an embarrassment
The only president or Premier showing true courage and commitment is the Ukrainian president..who for some reason the British media and Red tops like to remind us he's a comedian at every opportunity...I mean what the fuk is that all about. | |
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