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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
[Post edited 1 Jan 2021 14:13]
OUT AFLI SUCK IT UP REMOANER LOSERS
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Apr 6 by exiledclaseboy
I’m still trying to come to terms with the view that Corbyn has somehow played a blinder through all this. What has he achieved? No one who’s read this forum will accuse me of being either a Tory or a Blairite but by god I struggle to comprehend the cult of Corbyn.
But this nonsense is a distraction from the fact that that we’ve been led to this precipice by Tories. All tories. This current position is all down to tories. And that is quite simply a fact.
Indeed.
Have spent this morning watching a couple of political shows and the fact that tory politicians such as Leadsom can quite openly say that the decision to proceed with Brexit is purely down to political and Tory considerations rather than what is good for the country or, God forbid, try and seek to unite a horribly divided country is just outrageous. Leadson actually said the offer to work with other parties was a policy of last resort and made through gritted teeth. Ridiculous.
The fault lines were always there, but this Brexit vote has broken this country apart. Racism is now acceptable again, as we've seen in a sporting context in several places this weekend. Calling someone a traitor because they have a different view to them on the manner of leaving the EU is now acceptable. The Tories were, quite accurately, demonised as the nasty party. We're now a nasty country in many ways.
Corbyn has been a massive disappointment too, although his track record should have given a clue on that. Plenty to agree with, but some less than savoury views elsewhere. Leaving aside the glee that anti semitism is piled upon in various right wing circles, the Tory parties own issues in that regard and the lack of similar focus on their issue with Islamaphobia (another thing that is bordering on being viewed as acceptable) despite the views of a former Tory chair saying it's far more prevalent there in comparison, it's pretty clear the Labour Party, Corbyn in particular and the far left in general have singularly failed to get a grip of this disease and resolve it. In that regard they're similarly culpable for the divides in society that have arisen in recent years.
Christ knows how we sort this mess out. A second ref, with an honest and factual debate about the merits and demerits of being part of the EU (if only the positive case had been made over the last decade or two, instead of presenting it as the all seeing bogeyman) would make the most sense to me. Nobody can legitimately argue that 2016 ref was in any way legitimate given what has come out since. That wouldn't solve the divides though. We're almost in the territory of needing truth and reconciliation committees to be formed to seek to unite the country. At the very least, the citizens assembly idea looks a good start. Failure to do that and this'll look like a halcyon time.
I'll just end that rant with this. Imagine if Ed Milliband could eat a bacon sandwich. We'd probably not be in this mess. Small margins eh.
Yes sorry was confusing it with the date of the initial referendum.
Thanks for that confirmation, was pretty certain it existed, seemed absolutely genuine from a number of sources but did not want to be accused of spreading misinformation if it were a complex hoax
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:17 - Apr 7 with 1761 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:18 - Apr 7 by Gowerjack
As is Tonia in fairness to her.
Yes, I don’t want a delegate I want someone with their own mind
In life to we like people who are inoffensive, brown nosing, careerists? No but for some reason having your own mind in politics and daring to disagree is now becoming an issue
That is what politics should be about
I’m not a Nationalist, I however will probably vote Plaid in WAG elections because I’m impressed by the quality of the people in charge. Do I agree with everything? No
I despise this Tory Gov but I’d happily vote for Dominic Grieve as my MP for example because he’s first class and that’s not just because he’s a remainer. He is the sort of person I’d want to represent me. Well read, intelligent, eye for detail, commands respect, has his own mind, willing to compromise etc
If you want a yes man go ahead, I’d want someone to challenge me but have my back when the chips are down
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:33 - Apr 7 with 1534 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:32 - Apr 7 by rockinjk
Yes, I don’t want a delegate I want someone with their own mind
In life to we like people who are inoffensive, brown nosing, careerists? No but for some reason having your own mind in politics and daring to disagree is now becoming an issue
That is what politics should be about
I’m not a Nationalist, I however will probably vote Plaid in WAG elections because I’m impressed by the quality of the people in charge. Do I agree with everything? No
I despise this Tory Gov but I’d happily vote for Dominic Grieve as my MP for example because he’s first class and that’s not just because he’s a remainer. He is the sort of person I’d want to represent me. Well read, intelligent, eye for detail, commands respect, has his own mind, willing to compromise etc
If you want a yes man go ahead, I’d want someone to challenge me but have my back when the chips are down
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:18 - Apr 7 by Gowerjack
As is Tonia in fairness to her.
A delegate she is not. She's been going big on medicinal cannabis on twitter again this weekend after the government confiscated a kids THC oil, even though they legalised it in November. This current government is a shower of sh*t.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:50 - Apr 7 with 1497 views
Anyone want to speculate what happens this week? Will there be wome sort of ugly compromise between Labour and the Tories? The odds are against it seeing that such an outcome will rip both parties apart and if the Tories agree anything to soft the government is likely to collapse.
So then we’re back to Indicative Votes 3 - this time the government promises to adhere to the outcome. Which is a false promise anyway because this government won’t be around to implement the outcome and whichever Brexit loon takes over the Tory party will just rip whatever is decided up and go his or her own way. Ditto any agreement with Labour.
So the EU will grant an extension but how long for? 30 June seems pointless and anything longer will have Tories howling into their Earl Gray. And probably cause the government to collapse.
So will parliament finally give in and pass May’s deal so the madness finally ends? That’s still my guess. But who knows anything anymore.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:59 - Apr 7 by exiledclaseboy
Anyone want to speculate what happens this week? Will there be wome sort of ugly compromise between Labour and the Tories? The odds are against it seeing that such an outcome will rip both parties apart and if the Tories agree anything to soft the government is likely to collapse.
So then we’re back to Indicative Votes 3 - this time the government promises to adhere to the outcome. Which is a false promise anyway because this government won’t be around to implement the outcome and whichever Brexit loon takes over the Tory party will just rip whatever is decided up and go his or her own way. Ditto any agreement with Labour.
So the EU will grant an extension but how long for? 30 June seems pointless and anything longer will have Tories howling into their Earl Gray. And probably cause the government to collapse.
So will parliament finally give in and pass May’s deal so the madness finally ends? That’s still my guess. But who knows anything anymore.
Her deal can't pass without the DUP and nothing wiull change about the deal so it wont pass.
She could pass it tomorrow if she incorporated kyle/wilson into her deal but she wont because she's a coward.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:03 - Apr 7 with 1475 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:32 - Apr 7 by rockinjk
Yes, I don’t want a delegate I want someone with their own mind
In life to we like people who are inoffensive, brown nosing, careerists? No but for some reason having your own mind in politics and daring to disagree is now becoming an issue
That is what politics should be about
I’m not a Nationalist, I however will probably vote Plaid in WAG elections because I’m impressed by the quality of the people in charge. Do I agree with everything? No
I despise this Tory Gov but I’d happily vote for Dominic Grieve as my MP for example because he’s first class and that’s not just because he’s a remainer. He is the sort of person I’d want to represent me. Well read, intelligent, eye for detail, commands respect, has his own mind, willing to compromise etc
If you want a yes man go ahead, I’d want someone to challenge me but have my back when the chips are down
Grieve has been heroic in this clusterfück. An old school, one-nation Tory and a decent, intelligent man.
I've never voted anything other than Labour or anti-Tory, but given the pitiful Labour front bench (Starmer and Watson excluded) , I'd vote for him ahead of Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Barry Fûcking Gardiner, Long-Bailey ( the future - fück me, seriously???), Burgon and the rest of the nodding subs on the stiffs' bench.
Ian Lavery? Don't get me started on that utter fücking cùnt...
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I want my unicorn 
