| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? 18:33 - Sep 24 with 5073 views | Jackfath |
Great. So we get promoted, but what next?
What would the board do?
How can they ensure we stay competitive in the Premier League, stay up and not break the bank?
Are we destined to become a "yo-yo" club for evermore?
Personally I'm quite happy to reinvent ourselves in this league for a couple/few seasons. |  |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 13:34 - Sep 28 with 960 views | awayjack |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 13:08 - Sep 28 by jasper_T |
Yes, the Championship is a tough budgetary challenge. Most clubs make an operational loss most seasons, be it because they're gambling on promotion or just in a bit of a mess.
If we spend a few seasons here we'll probably reduce the academy to Cat. Two status (like Sunderland have done) which saves a few million.
The Americans won't continue to pay Jenkins £600k a year to lounge around a Championship club, unless it's a contractual obligation from the sale (which would fall under the aforementioned "mess"). They'll be aware that the club can't be run as a cash cow for mates and hangers on (via overpriced construction and printing contracts, for example) without damaging the value of their now much more fragile investment. Losses and mounting debt will lose them millions, and anger all-important shareholders who are already wondering when their dividend cheques they were promised are coming. |
Agree with most of this. I expected them to take a more aggressive approach this year on big back office costs like Board, but it often costs more to terminate big contacts early than let them run of likes of Huw dif in.
Back to title thread promotion this or next year would allow most of the old mess to be sorted, hopefully with real lessons learned. |  | | |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 14:15 - Sep 28 with 943 views | AnotherJohn |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 07:50 - Sep 26 by ItchySphincter |
It's funny how you can build a good case with good, well presented use of language, even when what is being written is complete buIIshit. |
And unsurprising on PS that a person whose prose isn't always exemplary chooses to reply to a post with insults rather than reasoned counter-arguments [Post edited 28 Sep 2018 14:24]
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 15:31 - Sep 28 with 907 views | _ |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 10:34 - Sep 26 by Shaky |
Having seen a bit more of the 'quality' of the Championship, I think there may be a viable business strategy for a Hull or say Bournmouth.
That would involve flitting between the Prem and the Championship divisions, selling players in the Prem, buying in the Championship, keeping wages down and pocketing parachute payments and Prem TV money.
Doubt it would appeal to Kaplan, however.
As for promotion this season I think that is way too early. the squad is simply too thin, and there is no money to strengthen.
Far better to pick up some bargains and work on the training field, then have a much stronger squad be in a position for another sustainable run next season or the one after. |
Hull who are looking like League 1 contenders or Bournemouth that cheated their way up THE ONCE through totally disregarding FFP.
Great examples there. |  |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 15:35 - Sep 28 with 905 views | _ |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 14:15 - Sep 28 by AnotherJohn |
And unsurprising on PS that a person whose prose isn't always exemplary chooses to reply to a post with insults rather than reasoned counter-arguments [Post edited 28 Sep 2018 14:24]
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What you said was actually bullshit though, so he had fair reason. | |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 16:41 - Sep 28 with 878 views | AnotherJohn |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 15:35 - Sep 28 by _ |
What you said was actually bullshit though, so he had fair reason. |
Says the person whose tedious ramblings are ruining this forum.. | | | |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 20:33 - Sep 28 with 845 views | Elmo |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 16:41 - Sep 28 by AnotherJohn |
Says the person whose tedious ramblings are ruining this forum.. |
What ruins forums is tedious, constant negativity. Far too many posters are glass half-empty.
The two posters you are criticising constantly proffer positive and football-related material.
A rebuild in this league, based on GP's "progressive possession based football", leveraging local young talent nurtured through the academy is all that matters right now.
No "ifs" and please no "buts" | | | |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 20:53 - Sep 28 with 832 views | ItchySphincter |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 14:15 - Sep 28 by AnotherJohn |
And unsurprising on PS that a person whose prose isn't always exemplary chooses to reply to a post with insults rather than reasoned counter-arguments [Post edited 28 Sep 2018 14:24]
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I didn't insult anyone, did I? The parachute payments are there to protect relegated clubs against losing PL revenue, not to have another crack at it. You could choose to do so but it's not the desired model. It is intended to be used as we have been seen (at least outwardly) to use it.
On another point, Laudrup spent plenty of money by Swansea City standards - not to take anything away from the eight months of wonderful football and the pot he gave us, but he did not do it for eff-all. Both Brendan and Laudrup benefited greatly from Sousa's work and Laudrup in particular had run out of puff.
This year is about steadying the ship and consolidation and anyone who demands more from him is being unfair, maybe big time, and if the club throws parachute money at him and demands promotion it would be reckless.
Reasoned enough counter arguments for you?
No need to be insulting. |  |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 22:34 - Sep 28 with 815 views | Cooperman |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 17:03 - Sep 25 by cmajack |
Well they are not trying very hard at the moment. With a couple of decent additions they could have had us challenging for promotion this season. There is nothing they have done since we were relegated that indicates they really want us to get back at the first attempt. |
So who are these players who would have been decent additions?
Attempting to get back at the first attempt is an almighty risk to take. |  |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 00:14 - Sep 29 with 800 views | TNT |
What happens if we get promoted?
We swap places with cardiff innit. | |
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 07:57 - Sep 29 with 750 views | awayjack |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 22:34 - Sep 28 by Cooperman |
So who are these players who would have been decent additions?
Attempting to get back at the first attempt is an almighty risk to take. |
Window is gone now but don’t you think a decent CF and CM would have added a huge amount to the squad? There were plenty of loanees available - for example Abraham and Ampadu already linked to club. What do you believe the risk is if we invested say £3m more on a couple of decent loanees? Less money for the Board /Owners ? [Post edited 29 Sep 2018 9:22]
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| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 17:57 - Sep 30 with 658 views | RevJames |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 19:16 - Sep 24 by Oldjack |
We got no money to spare ,never will have so what;s the point . The owners can;t be trusted .
We beaten them all bar one at some time in the recent past ,those dull kants up the road will never be able to say that .
Championship is our level i'm afraid |
Once we were a model for small clubs on how to get to the top, play nice football and stay there.
Then we became a model of how to spectacularly throw everything we'd worked so hard for all away.
To think that we could dine again at the top table with the same people at the helm is questionable. If you can't learn from your mistakes after 3 or 4 seasons, it's doubtful that you ever will. | | | |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 18:25 - Sep 30 with 630 views | jasper_T |
| What happens if against all the odds we get promoted? on 07:57 - Sep 29 by awayjack |
Window is gone now but don’t you think a decent CF and CM would have added a huge amount to the squad? There were plenty of loanees available - for example Abraham and Ampadu already linked to club. What do you believe the risk is if we invested say £3m more on a couple of decent loanees? Less money for the Board /Owners ? [Post edited 29 Sep 2018 9:22]
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Was Ampadu available? Chelsea don't seem keen to send him out (or play him).
Abraham would have cost as much as we've paid for Celina to bring in on loan. Plus there's no way he'd come back. Hated it here. | | | |
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