| India Covid Propaganda 04:15 - Apr 28 with 3007 views | RonaldStump |
Around 27000 people die every day in India.
Hundreds of kids starve to death, TB and many other diseases.
people dying outside of hospital and multiple funeral pyres are nothing new.
Now the corrupt lying governments have the oppurtunity to further their agenda and
promote fear into those brainwashed without any critical thinking skills sheep.
What a disgusting savage world we are living in.
Time for those in charge to be tried for crimes against humanity.
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| India Covid Propaganda on 15:43 - Apr 30 with 1205 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 15:06 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Look at any of the worldometer charts to see for your self, all three roll outs started about December and all three case and death charts peaked afterwards, around February.
But correlation is not causation as you know.
By the way your comment about mortality age in India being below the European and US average age of death from COVID being the reason for India's lower Mortality rate on the other thread was not correct.
The Average mortality age in India is 71 therefore they die of "old age" illnesses in a distribution around 71 as we do around 84. Their co-morbidities are similar to the UK, overweight and mostly Heart problems so they are just as susceptible to COVID at 70 as we are at 82.
So it is not a reason for lower death rates because the comparison is not valid. |
That's incredibly selective though isn't it?
The point that Stump was trying to make is that the vaccines caused deaths. That is obviously not the case. There may be a peak in deaths after the vaccination started but that is likely down to a lag between infection and immunity. The death increase isn't maintained so there is neither causation or correlation.
By far the biggest risk factor in covid mortality is age not other factors. The most significant pre existing condition is dementia. The point around death linked to age stands. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 16:57 - Apr 30 with 1181 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| India Covid Propaganda on 15:43 - Apr 30 by Scotia |
That's incredibly selective though isn't it?
The point that Stump was trying to make is that the vaccines caused deaths. That is obviously not the case. There may be a peak in deaths after the vaccination started but that is likely down to a lag between infection and immunity. The death increase isn't maintained so there is neither causation or correlation.
By far the biggest risk factor in covid mortality is age not other factors. The most significant pre existing condition is dementia. The point around death linked to age stands. |
Do you know what correlation and causation are?
Relative age.
Their 70 is our 80, what don't you understand about that?
Why do you think they are dying? | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 18:24 - Apr 30 with 1164 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 16:57 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Do you know what correlation and causation are?
Relative age.
Their 70 is our 80, what don't you understand about that?
Why do you think they are dying? |
Yes I do.
Any proof that the human body ages quicker in India? | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 18:44 - Apr 30 with 1152 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| India Covid Propaganda on 18:24 - Apr 30 by Scotia |
Yes I do.
Any proof that the human body ages quicker in India? |
Yes, they get their major Heart trouble illnesses and other major problems and die before we do.
What would you call it, give me a definition of old age?
Try this one
https://www.agedcareguide.com.
Not that it matters because we know that it is not just "age" that matters but age coupled with co-morbidities. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 09:28 - May 1 with 1113 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 18:44 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes, they get their major Heart trouble illnesses and other major problems and die before we do.
What would you call it, give me a definition of old age?
Try this one
https://www.agedcareguide.com.
Not that it matters because we know that it is not just "age" that matters but age coupled with co-morbidities. |
The most significant comorbiditie is dementia though, which is associated with age.
I assume that the impact of ageing on the immune system plays a large role too.
Have you been to India?
It's an entirely moot point as it is obvious that no drug being used there works. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 15:13 - May 1 with 1090 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| India Covid Propaganda on 09:28 - May 1 by Scotia |
The most significant comorbiditie is dementia though, which is associated with age.
I assume that the impact of ageing on the immune system plays a large role too.
Have you been to India?
It's an entirely moot point as it is obvious that no drug being used there works. |
How is dementia the most significant co-morbidity for dying by COVID, please show me the data that says this.
Here is mine.
Table 8.1. Percentage of all deaths, and percentage of COVID-19 deaths where one of the conditions were mentioned, 21 March to 1 May 2020, England. Source: Public Health England analysis of ONS death registration data. Condition Percentage of all deaths where condition is mentioned Percentage of COVID-19deaths where condition is mentioned
Cardiovascular disease 44.1% of all deaths 44.5% of COVID deaths
Diabetes 14.6 - 21.1
Hypertensive diseases 14.5 - 19.6
Chronic Kidney Disease 8.5 - 10.8
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease 10.6 - 11.5
Dementia23.825.7
Now explain how Dementia affects the Lung, Heart, Liver & Kidney failure and excessive blood clotting that actually kills most people.
Whereas I explained that the number 1 problem in India is also Cardiovascular disease, as it was in the UK when this study was conducted.
"it's an entirely moot point as it is obvious that no drug being used there works. "
How could you possibly know?
Have you even bothered to look at variation in Infection and mortality rates withing the various regions of the country?
Just like everything else you make statements without any data or back up at all. For a start you don't appear to realise that they apparently switched to Remdesivir as their main medical interception because of the WHO/CDC/FDA recommendations
It doesn't matter at all to you that a country can't just magic up 1.4 Billion doses of medicine or vaccine shots, or that they have the sort of crippling poverty not seen in the UK for over 100 years.
You still try to denigrate them despite them being at only 13,776 cases per Million population, compared to the UK's 64,777 per Million.
Just like in Climate debates you use grandiose statements to try and counter real life data, which you neither understand or know how to obtain. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 16:20 - May 1 with 1071 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 15:13 - May 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
How is dementia the most significant co-morbidity for dying by COVID, please show me the data that says this.
Here is mine.
Table 8.1. Percentage of all deaths, and percentage of COVID-19 deaths where one of the conditions were mentioned, 21 March to 1 May 2020, England. Source: Public Health England analysis of ONS death registration data. Condition Percentage of all deaths where condition is mentioned Percentage of COVID-19deaths where condition is mentioned
Cardiovascular disease 44.1% of all deaths 44.5% of COVID deaths
Diabetes 14.6 - 21.1
Hypertensive diseases 14.5 - 19.6
Chronic Kidney Disease 8.5 - 10.8
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease 10.6 - 11.5
Dementia23.825.7
Now explain how Dementia affects the Lung, Heart, Liver & Kidney failure and excessive blood clotting that actually kills most people.
Whereas I explained that the number 1 problem in India is also Cardiovascular disease, as it was in the UK when this study was conducted.
"it's an entirely moot point as it is obvious that no drug being used there works. "
How could you possibly know?
Have you even bothered to look at variation in Infection and mortality rates withing the various regions of the country?
Just like everything else you make statements without any data or back up at all. For a start you don't appear to realise that they apparently switched to Remdesivir as their main medical interception because of the WHO/CDC/FDA recommendations
It doesn't matter at all to you that a country can't just magic up 1.4 Billion doses of medicine or vaccine shots, or that they have the sort of crippling poverty not seen in the UK for over 100 years.
You still try to denigrate them despite them being at only 13,776 cases per Million population, compared to the UK's 64,777 per Million.
Just like in Climate debates you use grandiose statements to try and counter real life data, which you neither understand or know how to obtain. |
Well there is this from November of last year:-
https://www.bmj.com/content/37
Or this from May 2020:-
https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/
I note that your data covers a six week period. Well done.
I know that no drug is working because thousands of people are dying.
Do you honestly think that India is picking up and recording ALL cases? Really? The percentage of of positive test results is running at about 30%
https://timesofindia.indiatime
I don't need grandiose statements. People are dying. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 17:21 - May 1 with 1049 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| India Covid Propaganda on 16:20 - May 1 by Scotia |
Well there is this from November of last year:-
https://www.bmj.com/content/37
Or this from May 2020:-
https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/
I note that your data covers a six week period. Well done.
I know that no drug is working because thousands of people are dying.
Do you honestly think that India is picking up and recording ALL cases? Really? The percentage of of positive test results is running at about 30%
https://timesofindia.indiatime
I don't need grandiose statements. People are dying. |
https://www.bmj.com/content/37
Well, no shit Sherlock, Dementia is the main co-morbidity in people aged 85+ in care homes .
"People with dementia are particularly vulnerable to COVID-19 infection because of their age, multimorbidity,", get that multimorbidity, heart, lungs, kidney, liver, diabetes etc.
Did they die of dementia?
Or did they die of an organ failure or stroke?
"Dying with" is nothing like "dying of" as you well know.
Again you have no idea how well they are recording anything, just as you have no idea how many people have been treated with any kind of medicine, you are just guessing, ie making it up as you go along.
When you do have some actual data please present it otherwise I am not interested in your's or anybody else's guesses. | | | |
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| India Covid Propaganda on 09:43 - May 2 with 1000 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 17:21 - May 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
https://www.bmj.com/content/37
Well, no shit Sherlock, Dementia is the main co-morbidity in people aged 85+ in care homes .
"People with dementia are particularly vulnerable to COVID-19 infection because of their age, multimorbidity,", get that multimorbidity, heart, lungs, kidney, liver, diabetes etc.
Did they die of dementia?
Or did they die of an organ failure or stroke?
"Dying with" is nothing like "dying of" as you well know.
Again you have no idea how well they are recording anything, just as you have no idea how many people have been treated with any kind of medicine, you are just guessing, ie making it up as you go along.
When you do have some actual data please present it otherwise I am not interested in your's or anybody else's guesses. |
That's a grandiose statement just to acknowledge I'm correct. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 12:13 - May 4 with 936 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| India Covid Propaganda on 09:43 - May 2 by Scotia |
That's a grandiose statement just to acknowledge I'm correct. |
Well an Indian front line doctor says you are wrong.
He explains what has changed since they handled the first wave so well.
Most states and medical officials have adopted the WHO advice on HCQ, Ivermectin, Doxycycline and inhaled budesonide and are using more expensive drugs like favipiravir and remdesivir, which quickly ran out and is now rationed.
Even though there are few studies showing that remdesivir does any good at all.
This is especially true in private hospitals and clinics where the richer patients are being treated. Whereas the vast majority of patients in the first wave were from the the very poor areas and were treated at home, thus saving the hospitals from being over-run.
The UK/US methodology has now been adopted by many states and cities where no treatment is given at home and they just wait until patients are too ill and need hospitalising. In fact if a local doctor does provide HCQ or Ivermectin at home that treatment is stopped as soon as they are hospitalised and they are put on oxygen or a ventilator.
They have also switched to trying to control the epidemic with Vaccines instead of medicine, with the same outcome. Taking old people to hospital for vaccinations also gives them more exposure to COVID.
100s of Millions more potential patients than vaccines.
Of course as prof would say this just some lying, cheating shark making it up. We all know what high regard he has for front line practitioners saving peoples lives telling it how it is. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 12:41 - May 4 with 915 views | Scotia |
| India Covid Propaganda on 12:13 - May 4 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well an Indian front line doctor says you are wrong.
He explains what has changed since they handled the first wave so well.
Most states and medical officials have adopted the WHO advice on HCQ, Ivermectin, Doxycycline and inhaled budesonide and are using more expensive drugs like favipiravir and remdesivir, which quickly ran out and is now rationed.
Even though there are few studies showing that remdesivir does any good at all.
This is especially true in private hospitals and clinics where the richer patients are being treated. Whereas the vast majority of patients in the first wave were from the the very poor areas and were treated at home, thus saving the hospitals from being over-run.
The UK/US methodology has now been adopted by many states and cities where no treatment is given at home and they just wait until patients are too ill and need hospitalising. In fact if a local doctor does provide HCQ or Ivermectin at home that treatment is stopped as soon as they are hospitalised and they are put on oxygen or a ventilator.
They have also switched to trying to control the epidemic with Vaccines instead of medicine, with the same outcome. Taking old people to hospital for vaccinations also gives them more exposure to COVID.
100s of Millions more potential patients than vaccines.
Of course as prof would say this just some lying, cheating shark making it up. We all know what high regard he has for front line practitioners saving peoples lives telling it how it is. |
I'd guess that there over 1 million Dr's in India, but the one that you have found is correct?
Of course the other thing that has changed since the last wave is Modi allowed all sorts of huge gatherings to continue whilst the considerably more infectious variants ran amok. | | | |
| India Covid Propaganda on 13:42 - May 4 with 899 views | Treforys_Jack |
| India Covid Propaganda on 12:41 - May 4 by Scotia |
I'd guess that there over 1 million Dr's in India, but the one that you have found is correct?
Of course the other thing that has changed since the last wave is Modi allowed all sorts of huge gatherings to continue whilst the considerably more infectious variants ran amok. |
Why on earth do you bother? AFD is the font of all knowledge and to this date has never ever been wrong about anything. He will type you into submission. |  | | |
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