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Levelling up 08:49 - Jan 19 with 4280 viewsraynor94

Nice to see that investment starved City of Cardiff have been awarded 50 Million for a new rail line.

That's what you call levelling up!

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Levelling up on 22:28 - Jan 19 with 680 viewsowainglyndwr

Absolutely terrible decision, It's about time the people of the Swansea region and valleys in this area protested for this injustice
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Levelling up on 22:29 - Jan 19 with 680 viewsowainglyndwr

Levelling up on 09:31 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack

Pity they could not have spent some of that money to link the Swansea District line with the Mainline at Llamsamlett where the District line passes under the Mainline.


We need a rail link in the valley to swansea
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Levelling up on 23:01 - Jan 19 with 653 viewsKilkennyjack

Levelling up on 16:25 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack

Once again Killy fails to read an article before bashing the UK government. The funding is for Catterick Garrison TOWN CENTRE improvements not Catterick Garrison.

Does make you laugh. 😃


Gove specifically refers to the barracks, you plum .. 🇬🇧💩

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Levelling up on 23:15 - Jan 19 with 646 viewsBoundy

Levelling up on 22:26 - Jan 19 by controversial_jack

It was just a loose analogy, not to be taken literally


"Like it or not, Cardiff is more important to Wales than Swansea is. Just as London is more important than Liverpool,"

Its not to all though is it ,n Wales consider themselves outside the remit of cradiff looking more towards England than Wales for its economic growth , Cradiff is importart to those in the SE corner , Swansea. hundreds now have to work there . many more from the Rhondda due to the lack of investment in that particular area and those numbers will increase with the advent of the metro system which will take yet more workers out of the valleys to work in cardiff , money being spent there isn't being spent ther not supporting the local economy A bit like shopping in Swansea no one wiling to take a chance and invest in a business because the locals won't suppot local businesses yet complain when there so few options here , repeat that throughout the rest of sw Wales .The rest of Wales has learnt to look inwards knowing the few handouts they get from cardiff will not match their needs ., unlike Cradiff who have an inordinate amount of taxpayers money thrown at it

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Levelling up on 03:33 - Jan 20 with 626 viewsraynor94

Levelling up on 22:15 - Jan 19 by johnlangy

He just can't control himself. A 100% Westminster Tory decision but somehow it's the fault of the Senedd.


Didn't the Welsh government support the bid?

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Levelling up on 05:54 - Jan 20 with 612 viewsSullutaCreturned

Levelling up on 22:26 - Jan 19 by controversial_jack

It was just a loose analogy, not to be taken literally


Like it or not I think I hear loud beeping....caution, this poster is reversing.....caution...

Even as a loose analogy it fails. How much of our GDP does Cardiff generate when compared as a percentage with London?

The South East is the only profitable part of the UK.

The last figures I have seen say Cardiff's GDP is roughly 9.4 billion against Swansea's 6.5 so less than 50% more but Cardiff is more than 50% larger AND has had a lot more Senedd investment than Swansea, at those figures it could be argued it's more of a drain than important.

This idea that a thriving capital benefits the rest of Wales is also totally discredited, as has the idea that a thriving London benefits the UK. It only benefts the people living and working there, there is NO trickle down which itself is a proven failed idea.

The rich are getting richer more quickly and now the poor are getting poorer more quickly too, the rich people and rich areas are sucking the life out of the rest of us not benefitting us.
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Levelling up on 09:50 - Jan 20 with 571 viewsjohnlangy

Levelling up on 03:33 - Jan 20 by raynor94

Didn't the Welsh government support the bid?


I imagine they did.

If there's money to be bid for it would make no sense not to bid for it. But the allocation of the initial fund and then the decision about which bids were successful would all have been taken by the levelling up minister and his staff.

I seriously doubt anything the Senedd might have said would have had any effect on those decisions.
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Levelling up on 09:52 - Jan 20 with 570 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 13:20 - Jan 19 by britferry

50m for Cardiff, 20m for Swansea... same old, same old, the Cardiff Bay crooks couldn't have fiddled it any better

- £50m for a new rail line between Cardiff Bay and Cardiff Central Station
- £9m for a new engineering campus for 600 young people in Blaenau Gwent
- £18.6m to create a cycle route between Llandudno Junction and Betws y Coed in Conwy county.
- £18m to refurbish the Grand Pavilion in Porthcawl
- £20m to build a leisure centre in Caerphilly, including a gym and swimming pool
- £20m to restore and regenerate three industry heritage sites in the lower Swansea Valley including Morfa Copperworks and Swansea Museum
- £18.8m to upgrade walking and cycling routes for the National Slate Museum and the Neuadd Ogwen arts centre in Gwynedd
- £17m for new walkways and cycle paths in Holyhead to help people explore St Cybi's Church and the Roman Fort
- £11m to restore historic monuments in Ruthin, including St Peter's Church and the town square
- £17.8m to restore the historic estate in the Vale of Neath and build new walkways and cycle paths
- £7.6m for the Pontypool Cultural Hub project to "transform derelict buildings into a thriving cultural centre" including a new restaurant
[Post edited 19 Jan 2023 13:25]


What part of "this was money handed out by the Tories in Westminster" are you not getting?

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Levelling up on 10:02 - Jan 20 with 565 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 03:33 - Jan 20 by raynor94

Didn't the Welsh government support the bid?


Here's an idea. Why don't you or felix provide some evidence that this bid was "supported" by Welsh Government along with a list of projects they didn't support?

Maybe we can have a conversation based around the facts, not your imagined gripes.

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Levelling up on 10:07 - Jan 20 with 564 viewsBoundy

Levelling up on 09:52 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

What part of "this was money handed out by the Tories in Westminster" are you not getting?


What part of the Senned consulting with Westminster prior to any money being allocated are you not getting , nor understanding .The local authorities make bids for the monies allocated in the area

Read this https://assets.publishing.serv in England, Scotland and Wales


2.4 In England, Scotland and Wales, funding will be delivered through local
authorities. The Scottish and Welsh Territorial Offices will be consulted in the assessment of relevant bids.

Approach to England, Scotland and Wales
5.2 Within the competition, funding will be targeted towards places in England,
Scotland and Wales with the most significant need, as measured by an index taking
into account the following the following place characteristics:
- need for economic recovery and growth;
- need for improved transport connectivity; and,
- need for regeneration.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Levelling up on 10:08 - Jan 20 with 561 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 22:15 - Jan 19 by johnlangy

He just can't control himself. A 100% Westminster Tory decision but somehow it's the fault of the Senedd.


The modern Tory for you. They've had it all their way for over a decade, everythings gone to sh*t and its still everyone elses fault. They can't actually meet any issue head on because their ideology, talking points, and reality don't actually provide any solutions, only anger.

There's nothing they can't explain away by just ignoring facts and blaming everyone else.

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Levelling up on 10:16 - Jan 20 with 555 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 10:07 - Jan 20 by Boundy

What part of the Senned consulting with Westminster prior to any money being allocated are you not getting , nor understanding .The local authorities make bids for the monies allocated in the area

Read this https://assets.publishing.serv in England, Scotland and Wales


2.4 In England, Scotland and Wales, funding will be delivered through local
authorities. The Scottish and Welsh Territorial Offices will be consulted in the assessment of relevant bids.

Approach to England, Scotland and Wales
5.2 Within the competition, funding will be targeted towards places in England,
Scotland and Wales with the most significant need, as measured by an index taking
into account the following the following place characteristics:
- need for economic recovery and growth;
- need for improved transport connectivity; and,
- need for regeneration.


The Senedd and Local Authorities aren't responsible for deciding which bids are successful though. That would be the Tories who just handed the bulk of this rounds money to their own, wealthier constituencies.

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Levelling up on 10:34 - Jan 20 with 549 viewscontroversial_jack

Levelling up on 05:54 - Jan 20 by SullutaCreturned

Like it or not I think I hear loud beeping....caution, this poster is reversing.....caution...

Even as a loose analogy it fails. How much of our GDP does Cardiff generate when compared as a percentage with London?

The South East is the only profitable part of the UK.

The last figures I have seen say Cardiff's GDP is roughly 9.4 billion against Swansea's 6.5 so less than 50% more but Cardiff is more than 50% larger AND has had a lot more Senedd investment than Swansea, at those figures it could be argued it's more of a drain than important.

This idea that a thriving capital benefits the rest of Wales is also totally discredited, as has the idea that a thriving London benefits the UK. It only benefts the people living and working there, there is NO trickle down which itself is a proven failed idea.

The rich are getting richer more quickly and now the poor are getting poorer more quickly too, the rich people and rich areas are sucking the life out of the rest of us not benefitting us.


I didn't compare Cardiff to London, there is no comparison.Cardiff could probably fit into 2 London Boroughs.

Fifty percent is still a lot.Yes, Cardiff gets more investment than Swansea. I don't like it, but there it is.

The infrastructure in Swansea lags well behind Cardiff, which itself isn't brilliant compared to most English cities.
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Levelling up on 10:44 - Jan 20 with 540 viewsBoundy

Levelling up on 10:16 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

The Senedd and Local Authorities aren't responsible for deciding which bids are successful though. That would be the Tories who just handed the bulk of this rounds money to their own, wealthier constituencies.


If that is the case then that does not in anyway absolve the Welsh labour government of its responsibilities to all of Wales . Bids were submitted by all a local authorities the majority by labour MPs in some of the poorest of areas of the UK . Cardiff does not need more money pumped into it , it has become a self creating money making machine ,so why would the Senedd yet again feel that the priorities of Cardiff outweigh the basic needs of the rest of Wales . I have no idea of where you and the rest of Drakefords cheerleading group live nor particularly care , the people of Wales have continually been shafted by both Westminster, cardiff ,and our local MPS and you appear to be happy with that arrangement .

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Levelling up on 10:52 - Jan 20 with 520 viewsbritferry

Levelling up on 09:52 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

What part of "this was money handed out by the Tories in Westminster" are you not getting?


I didn't say they handed the money out, I said "the Cardiff Bay crooks couldn't have fiddled it any better"

So don't go trying to insinuate things that I NEVER said.

Got it?

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Levelling up on 10:53 - Jan 20 with 519 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 10:44 - Jan 20 by Boundy

If that is the case then that does not in anyway absolve the Welsh labour government of its responsibilities to all of Wales . Bids were submitted by all a local authorities the majority by labour MPs in some of the poorest of areas of the UK . Cardiff does not need more money pumped into it , it has become a self creating money making machine ,so why would the Senedd yet again feel that the priorities of Cardiff outweigh the basic needs of the rest of Wales . I have no idea of where you and the rest of Drakefords cheerleading group live nor particularly care , the people of Wales have continually been shafted by both Westminster, cardiff ,and our local MPS and you appear to be happy with that arrangement .


No Labour MPs have submitted bids. Also the Senedd can't prioritise any Levelling Up fund bids because they don't hand out the money lol. You're just wrong and angry.

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Levelling up on 10:59 - Jan 20 with 514 viewsKilkennyjack

Levelling up on 10:53 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

No Labour MPs have submitted bids. Also the Senedd can't prioritise any Levelling Up fund bids because they don't hand out the money lol. You're just wrong and angry.


Andrew RT (real tw@t) Davies says you are quite correct.



Not through the Senedd. The end.

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Levelling up on 11:01 - Jan 20 with 512 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 10:52 - Jan 20 by britferry

I didn't say they handed the money out, I said "the Cardiff Bay crooks couldn't have fiddled it any better"

So don't go trying to insinuate things that I NEVER said.

Got it?


Oh so you've imagined something to be angry at. Well done you.

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Levelling up on 12:10 - Jan 20 with 494 viewsBoundy

Levelling up on 10:53 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

No Labour MPs have submitted bids. Also the Senedd can't prioritise any Levelling Up fund bids because they don't hand out the money lol. You're just wrong and angry.


You're the one thats triggered my dear boy . Have you or rather can you read any of the documents I so kindly provided you the links to . You're yet another who's blind hatred of ayuthing which doesn't fit they socilist ideals . Open your eyes to whats going on in Wales or are you happy with your lot and care not for the plight of others. Are you happy that the opportunities for health, wealth, the creation of job oppotunities in Wales is disproportionately favouring those who happen to have a CF post code ? If you do decide to repond then I expect as with others it will start with "what about "

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Levelling up on 12:54 - Jan 20 with 489 viewsBadgeman

Levelling up on 12:10 - Jan 20 by Boundy

You're the one thats triggered my dear boy . Have you or rather can you read any of the documents I so kindly provided you the links to . You're yet another who's blind hatred of ayuthing which doesn't fit they socilist ideals . Open your eyes to whats going on in Wales or are you happy with your lot and care not for the plight of others. Are you happy that the opportunities for health, wealth, the creation of job oppotunities in Wales is disproportionately favouring those who happen to have a CF post code ? If you do decide to repond then I expect as with others it will start with "what about "


I've read what you posted and it reinforced my posts, not yours. There's a lot of things in this country that I'm unhappy with, whether it results from Senedd or Westminster policy. Unlike the grumpy right wingers on here I'm not so blindly partisan that I just apportion to the people I perceive to be the enemy, regardless of the facts.

This thread is a classic example as its full of tory voters criticising labour in the senedd for decisions taken by tories in Westminster.

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Levelling up on 15:37 - Jan 20 with 462 viewsKilkennyjack

Levelling up on 12:54 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

I've read what you posted and it reinforced my posts, not yours. There's a lot of things in this country that I'm unhappy with, whether it results from Senedd or Westminster policy. Unlike the grumpy right wingers on here I'm not so blindly partisan that I just apportion to the people I perceive to be the enemy, regardless of the facts.

This thread is a classic example as its full of tory voters criticising labour in the senedd for decisions taken by tories in Westminster.


Well said.

The avoidable damage done by the Tory oven ready Brexit has been well documented.

‘The impact of Brexit on the UK economy will be worse in the long run compared to the coronavirus pandemic, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility has said.
Richard Hughes said leaving the EU would reduce the UK's potential GDP by about 4% in the long term.
He said forecasts showed the pandemic would reduce GDP "by a further 2%".
"In the long term it is the case that Brexit has a bigger impact than the pandemic", he told the BBC’.

Add in the Russian money for Brexit - and dodgy PE Contracts to mates.

There is only one conclusion to draw.
The Tories have been dreadful as the government of the UK.

Nye was right. 🐀
[Post edited 20 Jan 2023 15:38]

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Levelling up on 16:13 - Jan 20 with 455 viewsbritferry

Levelling up on 11:01 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

Oh so you've imagined something to be angry at. Well done you.


Thanks for saying you were wrong and apologising, its much appreciated.

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Levelling up on 17:17 - Jan 20 with 444 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Levelling up on 15:37 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack

Well said.

The avoidable damage done by the Tory oven ready Brexit has been well documented.

‘The impact of Brexit on the UK economy will be worse in the long run compared to the coronavirus pandemic, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility has said.
Richard Hughes said leaving the EU would reduce the UK's potential GDP by about 4% in the long term.
He said forecasts showed the pandemic would reduce GDP "by a further 2%".
"In the long term it is the case that Brexit has a bigger impact than the pandemic", he told the BBC’.

Add in the Russian money for Brexit - and dodgy PE Contracts to mates.

There is only one conclusion to draw.
The Tories have been dreadful as the government of the UK.

Nye was right. 🐀
[Post edited 20 Jan 2023 15:38]


Well now we are free of the EU we no longer have to rely on the very small regional grants the EU handed out (paid for by UK taxpayers in the first place). The UK government can award far bigger grants to councils that make a good case for development grants to boost their local economy.

Good to see Wales got more per head of the population than any other region in the UK. Bet Drakeford will be Upset with that.

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Levelling up on 19:27 - Jan 20 with 411 viewsKilkennyjack

Levelling up on 17:17 - Jan 20 by felixstowe_jack

Well now we are free of the EU we no longer have to rely on the very small regional grants the EU handed out (paid for by UK taxpayers in the first place). The UK government can award far bigger grants to councils that make a good case for development grants to boost their local economy.

Good to see Wales got more per head of the population than any other region in the UK. Bet Drakeford will be Upset with that.


So corrupt English nationaliat Tory government favours Wales.
Wales never ever votes Tory.

Rightio …. If you say so …..🤡

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Levelling up on 21:55 - Jan 20 with 395 viewsBoundy

Levelling up on 12:54 - Jan 20 by Badgeman

I've read what you posted and it reinforced my posts, not yours. There's a lot of things in this country that I'm unhappy with, whether it results from Senedd or Westminster policy. Unlike the grumpy right wingers on here I'm not so blindly partisan that I just apportion to the people I perceive to be the enemy, regardless of the facts.

This thread is a classic example as its full of tory voters criticising labour in the senedd for decisions taken by tories in Westminster.


So you formed an uneducated answer and more so opinion . Never have I voted Tory and just because someone does posters as seen so many times on here automatically assume if anyone should dare criticise Labour & the Senedd then you must be a Tory , so far from reality you couldn't get .You come across as a being one eyed and your post confirms that

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