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Interesting thoughts from Icke 18:47 - Jul 17 with 4000 viewsKeithHaynes

Worth a listen.



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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 21:41 - Jul 18 with 1107 viewsRhonddaSwans

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 21:36 - Jul 18 by jackrmee

So you know for a fact that mediums don’t exist?


Yes once your dead your dead

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 21:47 - Jul 18 with 1104 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 21:41 - Jul 18 by RhonddaSwans

Yes once your dead your dead


It’s all opinions though mate.
Closed mindedness.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:01 - Jul 18 with 1094 viewsjackrmee

Sorry I posted the wrong video before.

Here’s the hollow moon one.


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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:48 - Jul 18 with 1041 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 21:36 - Jul 18 by jackrmee

So you know for a fact that mediums don’t exist?


I know for a fact that there is absolutely no evidence behind any human being in history claiming being able to talk to the dead being able to do so.

Medium: “I’m getting a J, maybe a John or a Jim or a Jack? No? D? David? No? It’s an older person i see them with a walking stick.”

Mug: “My father used a walking stick but his name was Arthur”

Medium: “yes that’s him he’s telling you not to worry about money. Now that will be a hundred and twenty pounds please.”
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:40 - Jul 18 with 1028 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:01 - Jul 18 by jackrmee

Sorry I posted the wrong video before.

Here’s the hollow moon one.



The moon is not hollow despite what the authors of such erstwhile publications as “who built the moon” “ancient aliens on the moon” “lost secrets of the watchers” and also the publisher of “legendary times magazine” say.

It’s very similar to earth. We know it has a solid iron core made mostly of iron. We know it has a mantle and a crust.

The only thing more depressing than that video is the comments underneath.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 04:36 - Jul 19 with 1004 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:40 - Jul 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The moon is not hollow despite what the authors of such erstwhile publications as “who built the moon” “ancient aliens on the moon” “lost secrets of the watchers” and also the publisher of “legendary times magazine” say.

It’s very similar to earth. We know it has a solid iron core made mostly of iron. We know it has a mantle and a crust.

The only thing more depressing than that video is the comments underneath.


Ok mate 👍

We don’t “know” anything. It’s all theories.
We don’t even know that the earth has a molten core. It’s just theory.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 04:38 - Jul 19 with 1004 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:48 - Jul 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I know for a fact that there is absolutely no evidence behind any human being in history claiming being able to talk to the dead being able to do so.

Medium: “I’m getting a J, maybe a John or a Jim or a Jack? No? D? David? No? It’s an older person i see them with a walking stick.”

Mug: “My father used a walking stick but his name was Arthur”

Medium: “yes that’s him he’s telling you not to worry about money. Now that will be a hundred and twenty pounds please.”
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You don’t know for a fact though.
You just don’t believe it.
Do you believe in God?

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 11:35 - Jul 19 with 944 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 04:36 - Jul 19 by jackrmee

Ok mate 👍

We don’t “know” anything. It’s all theories.
We don’t even know that the earth has a molten core. It’s just theory.
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It’s a theory based on centuries of in depth research using the latest equipment and most knowledgeable people in the field.

It carries a lot more weight than a bloke on the history channel trying to sell a book by saying “aliens done it guv”.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 11:41 - Jul 19 with 936 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 04:38 - Jul 19 by jackrmee

You don’t know for a fact though.
You just don’t believe it.
Do you believe in God?


No I don’t believe in God, Allah, Zeus, Buddha, Ganesh, Eru Illuvitar, Apollo, Neptune, Krishna, or any of the other thousands of deities made up by men throughout time while desperately trying to explain their place in the world.

Also there’s no mention in the bible of God creating ancient aliens who went on to hollow out the moon for some reason. Although I haven’t read all of it. Perhaps it’s in Corinthians. There’s some weird shit in there.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 13:04 - Jul 19 with 903 viewsKeithHaynes

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 11:41 - Jul 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

No I don’t believe in God, Allah, Zeus, Buddha, Ganesh, Eru Illuvitar, Apollo, Neptune, Krishna, or any of the other thousands of deities made up by men throughout time while desperately trying to explain their place in the world.

Also there’s no mention in the bible of God creating ancient aliens who went on to hollow out the moon for some reason. Although I haven’t read all of it. Perhaps it’s in Corinthians. There’s some weird shit in there.


A very casual read the Corinthians.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 13:11 - Jul 19 with 902 viewshobo

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 20:40 - Jul 18 by RhonddaSwans

Based David was smeared by the Far left .
He is controversial but give him a chance.
He isn't Piers Morgan just for the sake of it.

Remember left or right , centre politics always win!


Icke's resilience over the years has been incredible. Made fun of from all corners for decades, yet he always remains calm and centred, seemingly unbothered by the abuse thrown at him. Huge respect for him
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 13:13 - Jul 19 with 900 viewshobo

There's a really nice video on Youtube of him and Karl Pilkington chatting. Seems a real gent
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 14:14 - Jul 19 with 889 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 13:11 - Jul 19 by hobo

Icke's resilience over the years has been incredible. Made fun of from all corners for decades, yet he always remains calm and centred, seemingly unbothered by the abuse thrown at him. Huge respect for him


The reported ten million in his bank account probably cushions the blow a bit.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 14:31 - Jul 19 with 879 viewsWingstandwood

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 14:14 - Jul 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The reported ten million in his bank account probably cushions the blow a bit.


Yep, there is a qualified and highly educated chemist who did a YouTube review of a show that Icke did ooop North and basically it was a load of hot hair and pseudo-science gibberish coming from zero qualified Icke who knew absolutely nothing about the science he claimed to be talking about.

But hey you have a 'closed mind' and are not a 'free thinker' if you agree with E = mc2, the laws of physics and fact water is wet.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 16:31 - Jul 19 with 841 viewsSullutaCreturned

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 04:36 - Jul 19 by jackrmee

Ok mate 👍

We don’t “know” anything. It’s all theories.
We don’t even know that the earth has a molten core. It’s just theory.
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Actually we do know quite a bit,

https://www.sciencefocus.com/p

People who say we don't know have often tended to post outlandish theories and they say we don't know in trying to promote their silly theories.

We know quite a lot but there is so much more to learn, we are still scratching the surface really.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:10 - Jul 19 with 786 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 16:31 - Jul 19 by SullutaCreturned

Actually we do know quite a bit,

https://www.sciencefocus.com/p

People who say we don't know have often tended to post outlandish theories and they say we don't know in trying to promote their silly theories.

We know quite a lot but there is so much more to learn, we are still scratching the surface really.


They always say with established science that it’s “just a theory”. Well yes. But they are more often than not theories that can be easily recreated under controlled circumstances. I can prove the theory of gravity anywhere on earth by dropping an apple. I can prove the laws of physics correct easily with a few basic experiments they teach to eleven year olds.

Mediums have never been able to recreate their “gift” under controlled conditions. James Randi used to offer a million dollars for people to try with hilarious results.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:06 - Jul 19 with 772 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 16:31 - Jul 19 by SullutaCreturned

Actually we do know quite a bit,

https://www.sciencefocus.com/p

People who say we don't know have often tended to post outlandish theories and they say we don't know in trying to promote their silly theories.

We know quite a lot but there is so much more to learn, we are still scratching the surface really.


I have no crazy theories.
I just know I don’t know.
People who think they know do not know. And if they pretend they do, they are much bigger fools than people like Icke or me.
None knows, so be open.
That’s all I’m saying.

Edit:
I just read your article.
Yes it may prove that there is molten rock at super high temperatures somewhere below the crust, but we don’t really have a clue what’s going on down there . The core is purely an educated guess
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:15 - Jul 19 with 771 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 22:10 - Jul 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

They always say with established science that it’s “just a theory”. Well yes. But they are more often than not theories that can be easily recreated under controlled circumstances. I can prove the theory of gravity anywhere on earth by dropping an apple. I can prove the laws of physics correct easily with a few basic experiments they teach to eleven year olds.

Mediums have never been able to recreate their “gift” under controlled conditions. James Randi used to offer a million dollars for people to try with hilarious results.


That’s not proof of what gravity is mate. That’s proof that an apple drops.
The actual theory of gravity is pretty hard to wax explain. I’ve watchedNeil Degrasse Tyson messing up his lines while trying to explain it.
They still aren’t sure exactly how it works, so no, you can’t prove it.

As for”laws” of physics. What are these laws? Are they actually laws? What about meta physics? Do you believe in that?

Edit:
Can you do a better job of explaining gravity to me than this famous Astro physicist?
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 06:52 - Jul 20 with 750 viewsScotia

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:15 - Jul 19 by jackrmee

That’s not proof of what gravity is mate. That’s proof that an apple drops.
The actual theory of gravity is pretty hard to wax explain. I’ve watchedNeil Degrasse Tyson messing up his lines while trying to explain it.
They still aren’t sure exactly how it works, so no, you can’t prove it.

As for”laws” of physics. What are these laws? Are they actually laws? What about meta physics? Do you believe in that?

Edit:
Can you do a better job of explaining gravity to me than this famous Astro physicist?
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Nobody can claim to be absolutely completely sure because it's invisible, but we do know what overwhelming evidence points to it being caused by.

What would happen if Joesus dropped the same apple on the moon, over the Arctic Ocean or on Mount Nevado Huscarian in Peru?

Gravity changes where mass changes because it is caused by mass, this is also replicable under lab conditions. There may be a tiny amount of doubt because we're replicating that at a universe wide scale but that probably extends to an uncertainty level of 0.01% or less.

Scientific theories are evidence based and based on scientists proving or attempting to disprove others theories, in this case over hundreds of years.

Conspiracy theories aren't. Conspiracy theories play on people's vulnerability and wish to blindly believe what they're being told. Followers of them don't question, they accept because they want to. When they're asked for evidence they can't really provide any, what they do provide is usually spurious at best but often just deliberately misrepresented.

Take a look at the link that starts this thread. David Icke says nothing other than "look I've been right all along" he doesn't say about what or provide any evidence. It then turns in to a crypto currency advert by the guy "interviewing" him.

Apparently though it's considered "interesting thoughts".
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 07:39 - Jul 20 with 741 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 06:52 - Jul 20 by Scotia

Nobody can claim to be absolutely completely sure because it's invisible, but we do know what overwhelming evidence points to it being caused by.

What would happen if Joesus dropped the same apple on the moon, over the Arctic Ocean or on Mount Nevado Huscarian in Peru?

Gravity changes where mass changes because it is caused by mass, this is also replicable under lab conditions. There may be a tiny amount of doubt because we're replicating that at a universe wide scale but that probably extends to an uncertainty level of 0.01% or less.

Scientific theories are evidence based and based on scientists proving or attempting to disprove others theories, in this case over hundreds of years.

Conspiracy theories aren't. Conspiracy theories play on people's vulnerability and wish to blindly believe what they're being told. Followers of them don't question, they accept because they want to. When they're asked for evidence they can't really provide any, what they do provide is usually spurious at best but often just deliberately misrepresented.

Take a look at the link that starts this thread. David Icke says nothing other than "look I've been right all along" he doesn't say about what or provide any evidence. It then turns in to a crypto currency advert by the guy "interviewing" him.

Apparently though it's considered "interesting thoughts".


Yes I understand, but our “evidence” is only as good as our tools.
Evidence changes all the time.
There were different theories about germs and particles, which were “scientific fact”, until someone invented the microscope.

What about the intelligence of nature, what about quantum mechanics, what about meta physics, what about spirituality, what about God, what about sacred geometry and why the earth and universe is mathematical, what about the many scientists who now believe we are almost definitely living in a simulation of some kind?
There is no proof or real, repeatable evidence that shows any of that. Does that mean I should be closed to all that?

There are many levels of light, different dimensions and things that our senses and tools cannot fathom yet.
To ignore possibilities of other things is just pure ignorance to me.

The theory and explanation of gravity may well be sound, but for all we know, it is sound because it was built for the simulation we are in, or by a clever “God” type geezer.
People who say that science is correct and others DEFINITELY are wrong, are ignoramuses.

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That crypto advert is nothing to do with Icke. That’s Bryan Rose. He has a very popular podcast and you may remember he ran for London mayor. He’s not my cup of tea at all, but has some very interesting guests and the speak about many taboo subjects. It’s a very good podcast to be fair.

ps. Here is a little video on simulation theory. It’s very interesting. A lot of conjecture and circumstantial evidence, but nothing scientific. Still, it’s a huge deal and is gaining a LOT of traction.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 08:56 - Jul 20 with 725 viewsScotia

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 07:39 - Jul 20 by jackrmee

Yes I understand, but our “evidence” is only as good as our tools.
Evidence changes all the time.
There were different theories about germs and particles, which were “scientific fact”, until someone invented the microscope.

What about the intelligence of nature, what about quantum mechanics, what about meta physics, what about spirituality, what about God, what about sacred geometry and why the earth and universe is mathematical, what about the many scientists who now believe we are almost definitely living in a simulation of some kind?
There is no proof or real, repeatable evidence that shows any of that. Does that mean I should be closed to all that?

There are many levels of light, different dimensions and things that our senses and tools cannot fathom yet.
To ignore possibilities of other things is just pure ignorance to me.

The theory and explanation of gravity may well be sound, but for all we know, it is sound because it was built for the simulation we are in, or by a clever “God” type geezer.
People who say that science is correct and others DEFINITELY are wrong, are ignoramuses.

edit:
That crypto advert is nothing to do with Icke. That’s Bryan Rose. He has a very popular podcast and you may remember he ran for London mayor. He’s not my cup of tea at all, but has some very interesting guests and the speak about many taboo subjects. It’s a very good podcast to be fair.

ps. Here is a little video on simulation theory. It’s very interesting. A lot of conjecture and circumstantial evidence, but nothing scientific. Still, it’s a huge deal and is gaining a LOT of traction.
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But they weren't scientific fact unitl the until microscope was invented. They were a theory, basically an educated guess that was proven wrong as soon as we could observe what was actually causing disease. Science evolves. One day we may be able to take a physical sample of the Earths inner core, if we ever can I put money on it being made of some form of derivative of Iron based on the evidence we already have, but it would be a miracle if we have understood the composition to be absolutely correct.

Similar to varying levels of gravity, Newton theorised it was caused by the mass of varying objects and we can now say there is more evidence he was correct as it is what technology allows us to observe.

Of course you shouldn't be closed to that but just take it for what it is at the moment which is just a completley unproven idea. It can't be evidenced in any way.

It's a little bit like my feelings towards God - I don't believe it exists. I've seen no evidence that it does. I'm not an atheist though. What I do believe is that if there is a God, or many Gods they are not worthy of worship and I don't understand why anyone thinks they are. For now people who follow simulation theory are no different to anyone who worships a God.

Science is about testing theories against evidence and observation. People like David Icke (and others) are just make unsubstanitated claims, I don't understand why people believe him over evidence backed science.

A scientists mind should never be closed, that's the nature of science.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 10:22 - Jul 20 with 703 viewsjackrmee

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 08:56 - Jul 20 by Scotia

But they weren't scientific fact unitl the until microscope was invented. They were a theory, basically an educated guess that was proven wrong as soon as we could observe what was actually causing disease. Science evolves. One day we may be able to take a physical sample of the Earths inner core, if we ever can I put money on it being made of some form of derivative of Iron based on the evidence we already have, but it would be a miracle if we have understood the composition to be absolutely correct.

Similar to varying levels of gravity, Newton theorised it was caused by the mass of varying objects and we can now say there is more evidence he was correct as it is what technology allows us to observe.

Of course you shouldn't be closed to that but just take it for what it is at the moment which is just a completley unproven idea. It can't be evidenced in any way.

It's a little bit like my feelings towards God - I don't believe it exists. I've seen no evidence that it does. I'm not an atheist though. What I do believe is that if there is a God, or many Gods they are not worthy of worship and I don't understand why anyone thinks they are. For now people who follow simulation theory are no different to anyone who worships a God.

Science is about testing theories against evidence and observation. People like David Icke (and others) are just make unsubstanitated claims, I don't understand why people believe him over evidence backed science.

A scientists mind should never be closed, that's the nature of science.


Exactly! But it’s still not scientific fact, as there will be another instrument invented in future which will enable us to see something completely new and unfathomable to us right now.

I agree, and I say that people who just take the word of anyone without asking questions are ignorant, but so are they who believe science in every way. Science is one of the most corrupted things on earth.

I don’t believe in God as such either. But all the reading and research I do, it does tend to lean me towards some sort of spiritual or universal intelligence higher than humans, more than science convinces me.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 10:38 - Jul 20 with 693 viewsScotia

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 10:22 - Jul 20 by jackrmee

Exactly! But it’s still not scientific fact, as there will be another instrument invented in future which will enable us to see something completely new and unfathomable to us right now.

I agree, and I say that people who just take the word of anyone without asking questions are ignorant, but so are they who believe science in every way. Science is one of the most corrupted things on earth.

I don’t believe in God as such either. But all the reading and research I do, it does tend to lean me towards some sort of spiritual or universal intelligence higher than humans, more than science convinces me.


Scientific fact is never final. That's the point.

Science isn't really corrupt, it can't be unless every scientist in that particular field is involved in the corruption.

It can be misrepresented though, and that's what conspiracy theories and things like the tabloid press relies on.
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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 11:38 - Jul 20 with 681 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Interesting thoughts from Icke on 23:15 - Jul 19 by jackrmee

That’s not proof of what gravity is mate. That’s proof that an apple drops.
The actual theory of gravity is pretty hard to wax explain. I’ve watchedNeil Degrasse Tyson messing up his lines while trying to explain it.
They still aren’t sure exactly how it works, so no, you can’t prove it.

As for”laws” of physics. What are these laws? Are they actually laws? What about meta physics? Do you believe in that?

Edit:
Can you do a better job of explaining gravity to me than this famous Astro physicist?
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It’s proof that gravity exists though and can be easily demonstrated anywhere on earth at any time. Unlike mediumship, clairvoyance or any of that parlour trick con nonsense.

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Interesting thoughts from Icke on 12:02 - Jul 20 with 674 viewsWingstandwood

Aye, science? It's all feckless, unproven, untested, under-researched and theoretical. Snooker and bowls expert David Icke knows far better by replacing proven facts with lies, make-believe gibberish and gobbledegook.

Who will never forget the two incidences involving Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Caused by a load of theoretical paperwork being dropped from a B-29 bomber that in itself was just a load of theoretical nonsense?

Just struck it lucky with theorical: aerodynamics, propulsion, physics and ability to extract and manufacture high octane fuel etc.


Argus!

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