| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 21:33 - May 26 with 1475 views | builthjack |
6 years. Action should have been taken on day one. |  |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 21:43 - May 26 with 1456 views | BillyChong |
So according to Dalton the Trust have never had sight of the current Shareholders Agreement? |  | | |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:07 - May 26 with 1439 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 21:43 - May 26 by BillyChong |
So according to Dalton the Trust have never had sight of the current Shareholders Agreement? |
It's an absolute shambles.
They are coming across as absolutely clueless as to what the deal they signed entails. Embarrassing. |  |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:23 - May 26 with 1426 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:07 - May 26 by Chief |
It's an absolute shambles.
They are coming across as absolutely clueless as to what the deal they signed entails. Embarrassing. |
They had a lot to put right that wasn’t done over the years before Dave Dalton was brave enough to stand up and be counted IMO that is. |  |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:30 - May 26 with 1413 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 21:33 - May 26 by builthjack |
6 years. Action should have been taken on day one. |
The self agendas, and I don’t include Phil here, of those who have sparked up to protect their own misdemeanours since they left the trust makes them equally as liable to criticism, again IMO. Instead of covering their own backsides they should have faced up and become ( allys) of the new trust chairman instead of hanging him out to dry.
It’s very Husker Du. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:30 - May 26 with 1413 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:23 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
They had a lot to put right that wasn’t done over the years before Dave Dalton was brave enough to stand up and be counted IMO that is. |
Such as? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:31 - May 26 with 1405 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:30 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
The self agendas, and I don’t include Phil here, of those who have sparked up to protect their own misdemeanours since they left the trust makes them equally as liable to criticism, again IMO. Instead of covering their own backsides they should have faced up and become ( allys) of the new trust chairman instead of hanging him out to dry.
It’s very Husker Du. |
What misdemeanors are you referring to? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:33 - May 26 with 1402 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:30 - May 26 by Chief |
Such as? |
IMO inaction because they were guided by the trust insurers who possibly were the influencers, which is why nothing was done. At least the new trust board had the mettle to make a decision. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:34 - May 26 with 1396 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:33 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
IMO inaction because they were guided by the trust insurers who possibly were the influencers, which is why nothing was done. At least the new trust board had the mettle to make a decision. |
They made a decision because they were given the opportunity to do. Silverstein only approached this board after they took over. No offer was made to the previous board. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:36 - May 26 with 1391 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:34 - May 26 by Chief |
They made a decision because they were given the opportunity to do. Silverstein only approached this board after they took over. No offer was made to the previous board. |
Because at no point before that had anyone on the trust had the foresight to actually get all parties around the table ? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:37 - May 26 with 1386 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:36 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
Because at no point before that had anyone on the trust had the foresight to actually get all parties around the table ? |
Like mediation you mean? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:38 - May 26 with 1379 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:37 - May 26 by Chief |
Like mediation you mean? |
Yes, the personal agendas of all involved were too complex. Self interest etc. IMO | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:41 - May 26 with 1362 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:38 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
Yes, the personal agendas of all involved were too complex. Self interest etc. IMO |
Yes, so the previous trust administration did try and get people around the table then.
Correct though, the sellouts as you rightly point out had declined to partake due to self interests. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:46 - May 26 with 1350 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:41 - May 26 by Chief |
Yes, so the previous trust administration did try and get people around the table then.
Correct though, the sellouts as you rightly point out had declined to partake due to self interests. |
I think the trust were too cautious because of the fear of opening up on their strategy. The same for those who sold in 2016 and of course the new owners ( USA) had their own agenda. I don’t blame the old trust board, but I do question their post agreement claims ( in feb ) since they left to protect their own decision making. They were being guided by others at the time and like we all would have been were completely out of their depth IMO . | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:51 - May 26 with 1333 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:46 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
I think the trust were too cautious because of the fear of opening up on their strategy. The same for those who sold in 2016 and of course the new owners ( USA) had their own agenda. I don’t blame the old trust board, but I do question their post agreement claims ( in feb ) since they left to protect their own decision making. They were being guided by others at the time and like we all would have been were completely out of their depth IMO . |
Well if they were 'completely out if their depth' surely they should be applauded for taking advice from more professional entities such as insurers, legal experts etc.
You can't on the one hand accuse them of being too cautious and on the other of being out of their depth.
What post agreement claims are you referring to anyway? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:52 - May 26 with 1331 views | KeithHaynes |
Thing is it’s done and dusted, time to move on. What could have or should have happened didn’t. I admire Dave Dalton etc … and the rest for putting it to bed. At least they negotiated the end game however low the figure is.
It’s history chief. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:55 - May 26 with 1321 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:51 - May 26 by Chief |
Well if they were 'completely out if their depth' surely they should be applauded for taking advice from more professional entities such as insurers, legal experts etc.
You can't on the one hand accuse them of being too cautious and on the other of being out of their depth.
What post agreement claims are you referring to anyway? |
The Old board members coming out and slating the new trust chairman IMO to protect themselves.
That’s how I see it.
It’s not as if the current trust chairman and others who are now criticising them haven’t worked together in the past.
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 23:00 - May 26 with 1307 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:52 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
Thing is it’s done and dusted, time to move on. What could have or should have happened didn’t. I admire Dave Dalton etc … and the rest for putting it to bed. At least they negotiated the end game however low the figure is.
It’s history chief. |
Right so now you've questioned the actions of the previous board, but won't / can't back up those opinions when probed, it's time to move on? If it was why bother with the criticisms that's you have failed to back up?
"It's history" once awkward questions get asked you mean? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 23:04 - May 26 with 1297 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 22:55 - May 26 by KeithHaynes |
The Old board members coming out and slating the new trust chairman IMO to protect themselves.
That’s how I see it.
It’s not as if the current trust chairman and others who are now criticising them haven’t worked together in the past.
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Whether they are or not we can't say for certain but the criticisms that ex board members are putting forward are entirely valid. Look at how wooly some of Dalton's answers are. There are several things in the deal that still need clarification months on. The board appear to have gone to ground and can't answer questions.
Yea worked together at that time towards delivering the mandate of the members, which quickly changed once the previous board left. So their reaction is hardly surprising. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 00:50 - May 27 with 1259 views | jasper_T |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 21:43 - May 26 by BillyChong |
So according to Dalton the Trust have never had sight of the current Shareholders Agreement? |
I only skim read the article but it sounded like they know what's in it but have to seek permission/clarification over whether they can disclose specifics from it publicly. | | | |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 09:50 - May 27 with 1122 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 23:00 - May 26 by Chief |
Right so now you've questioned the actions of the previous board, but won't / can't back up those opinions when probed, it's time to move on? If it was why bother with the criticisms that's you have failed to back up?
"It's history" once awkward questions get asked you mean? |
That’s my viewpoint.
As for hard questions mine is only a personal view. Maybe this should be directed at those who for years said nothing and now can’t keep quiet about it ðŸ‘ðŸ¼
It won’t stop this website giving an opportunity for all views. And all discussions. That’s the difference. And we also won’t allow any individual concerned whoever they are to be abused regardless as is happening away from this site on Twitter etc.
That’s it really. | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 12:44 - May 27 with 1021 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 09:50 - May 27 by KeithHaynes |
That’s my viewpoint.
As for hard questions mine is only a personal view. Maybe this should be directed at those who for years said nothing and now can’t keep quiet about it ðŸ‘ðŸ¼
It won’t stop this website giving an opportunity for all views. And all discussions. That’s the difference. And we also won’t allow any individual concerned whoever they are to be abused regardless as is happening away from this site on Twitter etc.
That’s it really. |
Yea a personal view that when challenged on, you throw your hands up in the air and say 'its history, let's move on"
People can't talk about something that hasn't happened. I don't know you mean quiet for years but this deal and prospect of it has only been a few months - after the people I assume you're referring to left the board. So what do you expect to have been saying for years?
Indeed, but you'd expect people to have thought those views through if you're putting them on a public forum. And people have the opportunity rightfully to challenge those views.
And I don't know what you mean by your last comments.... Who's being abused? | |
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 12:53 - May 27 with 1007 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 12:44 - May 27 by Chief |
Yea a personal view that when challenged on, you throw your hands up in the air and say 'its history, let's move on"
People can't talk about something that hasn't happened. I don't know you mean quiet for years but this deal and prospect of it has only been a few months - after the people I assume you're referring to left the board. So what do you expect to have been saying for years?
Indeed, but you'd expect people to have thought those views through if you're putting them on a public forum. And people have the opportunity rightfully to challenge those views.
And I don't know what you mean by your last comments.... Who's being abused? |
David Dalton.
And yes I can say what I like about the situation, because it’s my opinion. As you have yours, it’s just that this is a subject close to your heart for whatever reason. I’ve stated my position as an individual, just as you have, and for me it’s being dwelt on far too much.
But other people enjoy the conversations. Not me on this topic.
My position is clear.
Maybe the Res will oblige you 😉
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 13:17 - May 27 with 975 views | Chief |
| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 12:53 - May 27 by KeithHaynes |
David Dalton.
And yes I can say what I like about the situation, because it’s my opinion. As you have yours, it’s just that this is a subject close to your heart for whatever reason. I’ve stated my position as an individual, just as you have, and for me it’s being dwelt on far too much.
But other people enjoy the conversations. Not me on this topic.
My position is clear.
Maybe the Res will oblige you 😉
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Well I wouldn't condone any abuse of him and haven't personally seen any personal abuse directed at them. Probing questions, questioning their position and their motives shouldn't be conflated with abuse though.
Well I'm a trust member and Swansea City fan so course it's close to my heart. I don't think you can really complain it's being dwelt upon too long while posting a thread of the interview regarding the deal yesterday. Are we meant to not comment on it?
Your position seems 'muddled' to me (where have I heard that before!?). You've criticised the previous board for not talking yet you know mediation was organised, you've criticised them for being quiet for years, when we're talking about a deal which only signed a few months ago. Doesn't seem a particularly substantiated position does it? [Post edited 27 May 2022 13:22]
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| Dave Dalton speaks to SOS Fanzine on 20:38 - May 27 with 833 views | KeithHaynes |
Let’s be honest, the responses to this thread should tell everyone more about the fans of swansea city and their care about the sale, the trust and whoever is involved more than anything else. | |
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