| Elgin marbles 19:51 - Dec 3 with 4528 views | Kilkennyjack | Our Greek friends have waited long enough. Time to return the stolen goods. π¬π·ποΈ No real debate shirley β¦? |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 with 3123 views | Luther27 | Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. Thereβs at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying. |  | |  |
| Elgin marbles on 20:38 - Dec 3 with 3095 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth | If the marbles had not been removed when they had they almost certainly would have been destroyed forever. The Greeks couldnβt look after them, the Parthenon was little more than a ruin at the time after a load of munitions exploded and had been used as a mosque for the best part of 350 years. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 20:54 - Dec 3 with 3080 views | felixstowe_jack | Time for all the Irish Americans to return to Ireland and give American back to the native Americans. Time to return stolen lands No debate Shirley? |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 with 3073 views | SullutaCreturned | There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government. |  | |  |
| Elgin marbles on 21:12 - Dec 3 with 3066 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned | There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government. |
Perhaps the IRA could return the bodies of executed soldiers. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 21:33 - Dec 3 with 3035 views | Boundy |
| Elgin marbles on 21:12 - Dec 3 by felixstowe_jack | Perhaps the IRA could return the bodies of executed soldiers. |
or just as importantly the "disappeared" families destroyed like Jean McConville's |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 23:08 - Dec 3 with 3004 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 by Luther27 | Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. Thereβs at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying. |
Great point. Fair is fair. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 23:11 - Dec 3 with 3001 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 20:54 - Dec 3 by felixstowe_jack | Time for all the Irish Americans to return to Ireland and give American back to the native Americans. Time to return stolen lands No debate Shirley? |
Well they sort of left Ireland without much choice, google βcoffin shipsβ β¦. But i fully support the return of lands to the native Americans. Well said. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 23:12 - Dec 3 with 2998 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 20:38 - Dec 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | If the marbles had not been removed when they had they almost certainly would have been destroyed forever. The Greeks couldnβt look after them, the Parthenon was little more than a ruin at the time after a load of munitions exploded and had been used as a mosque for the best part of 350 years. |
Point is β¦.. itβs time to give them back. They can create some pretend plastic ones instead for London, jobs a good un. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 23:13 - Dec 3 with 2996 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned | There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government. |
I am supporting these moves by the UK govt. Are you drunk ? |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 06:37 - Dec 4 with 2954 views | Scotia |
| Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 by Luther27 | Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. Thereβs at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying. |
The Red lady of Paviland should definitely be in Swansea museum. |  | |  |
| Elgin marbles on 08:17 - Dec 4 with 2931 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Elgin marbles on 23:11 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack | Well they sort of left Ireland without much choice, google βcoffin shipsβ β¦. But i fully support the return of lands to the native Americans. Well said. |
Do you support the IRA returning the bodies of executed captured British soldiers ? |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 08:20 - Dec 4 with 2931 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 06:37 - Dec 4 by Scotia | The Red lady of Paviland should definitely be in Swansea museum. |
Great idea. And this can go back to north Wales β¦. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 08:21 - Dec 4 with 2929 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 08:17 - Dec 4 by felixstowe_jack | Do you support the IRA returning the bodies of executed captured British soldiers ? |
Start your own thread. Thank you. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 09:54 - Dec 4 with 2898 views | raynor94 |
| Elgin marbles on 08:21 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | Start your own thread. Thank you. |
A sidestep Phil Bennett would have been proud of |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 11:28 - Dec 4 with 2871 views | JACKMANANDBOY | Brought by a Jock, who went bankrupt and they ended up in the British Museum thanks to the British Government. This is a Scottish problem. ( I think that's how it goes these days ?). |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 16:06 - Dec 4 with 2824 views | AnotherJohn |
| Elgin marbles on 09:54 - Dec 4 by raynor94 | A sidestep Phil Bennett would have been proud of |
But Phil's sidesteps were harder to see coming. |  | |  |
| Elgin marbles on 16:45 - Dec 4 with 2808 views | raynor94 |
| Elgin marbles on 16:06 - Dec 4 by AnotherJohn | But Phil's sidesteps were harder to see coming. |
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| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 with 2796 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 11:28 - Dec 4 by JACKMANANDBOY | Brought by a Jock, who went bankrupt and they ended up in the British Museum thanks to the British Government. This is a Scottish problem. ( I think that's how it goes these days ?). |
So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 17:33 - Dec 4 with 2773 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |
Some arguments for and against in here. If it was up to me I'd move the Parthenon, it's on top of a hill and bloody hot in summer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/67552622 |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 17:55 - Dec 4 with 2767 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |
Stolen? They were removed with permission from the ottomans. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 18:51 - Dec 4 with 2743 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |
At the time Elgin removed them, it was to poreserve them. Elgin was worried that the Ottoman Empire, which ruled Greece at the time, would be indifferent to the damage of important artworks in the temples. As for reparations, are YOU drunk? Returning them should be enough. After all they would likely have been destroyed if they had been left there. We should never have kept them, they should have gone back decades ago. |  | |  |
| Elgin marbles on 08:38 - Dec 5 with 2700 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Elgin marbles on 18:51 - Dec 4 by SullutaCreturned | At the time Elgin removed them, it was to poreserve them. Elgin was worried that the Ottoman Empire, which ruled Greece at the time, would be indifferent to the damage of important artworks in the temples. As for reparations, are YOU drunk? Returning them should be enough. After all they would likely have been destroyed if they had been left there. We should never have kept them, they should have gone back decades ago. |
I agree with you. |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 08:45 - Dec 5 with 2688 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |
Wonder if the Romans will pay reparations and return all the gold they stole from Britannia Plus reparations for all the slave they transported |  |
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| Elgin marbles on 09:21 - Dec 5 with 2669 views | Boundy |
| Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack | So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items. We are all agreed then. Good. What about reparations for the theft ? Has to be i think. Lovely people the Greeks π¬π·. |
Just to be clear , they were not stolen and the British Museum has the proof of deeds provided to them 200 years ago . |  |
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