| 14th at Christmas 17:08 - Dec 21 with 2206 views | aston_hoop |
13 points clear of the bottom 3 and with arguably the best young player in the league in our squad. We'd have taken this after the Boreham Wood friendly wouldn't we?
(yes the result hurts today, I'm trying this being positive thing) |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 17:12 - Dec 21 with 2166 views | RANGERS4EVER |
Its where I expected and happy to be. But I mean, that defence. Come on. It's painful watching them. I really do hope we try to get at least one CB in because I can't deal with it for much longer |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 17:33 - Dec 21 with 2086 views | DejR_vu |
| 14th at Christmas on 17:12 - Dec 21 by RANGERS4EVER |
Its where I expected and happy to be. But I mean, that defence. Come on. It's painful watching them. I really do hope we try to get at least one CB in because I can't deal with it for much longer |
The goalkeeper’s the problem, not the defence. If you look at the stats on shots on target we’re about the same as other teams (so would argue the defence isn’t any worse than other sides) but Lumley lets in about one in two. That’s 50% of shots on target he concedes. You can’t expect any defence to restrict the opposition to zero shots on target. We need to score at least one a game, often two, just to get a draw. We need a decent keeper more than we need anything else. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 17:35]
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| 14th at Christmas on 17:46 - Dec 21 with 2017 views | traininvain |
Lumley wasn’t the problem today. He made a couple of good saves. I think our defensive problems run deeper than replacing Lumley. |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 17:53 - Dec 21 with 2001 views | loftus77 |
So frustrating today - but at the half-way point of 2019-20, we know 2 things about our valiant team:
1. Its inexperienced - partic. at this level. We knew this from Day One.
2. Its over-achieving very successfully TVM, in this, the toughest of seasons for all things financial.
The lads fully deserve their Xmas pud - 32points is a fine return.
One final statto point: when did we last open Xmas pressies with more away wins than at home? 1991-92 under Gerry maybe?? [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 17:53]
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| 14th at Christmas on 17:53 - Dec 21 with 1999 views | mcqpr10 |
Wells and Cameron gift them the goals and we blame lumley. Probably said eze was lazy last year. | | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:00 - Dec 21 with 1966 views | Nov77 |
There’s just something about Lumley, six of the last seven goals he’s conceded he hasn’t attempted to dive to get nearer to the ball so he can make the save. He just watches them go in. |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 18:03 - Dec 21 with 1954 views | stevec |
| 14th at Christmas on 17:53 - Dec 21 by mcqpr10 |
Wells and Cameron gift them the goals and we blame lumley. Probably said eze was lazy last year. |
Yeah, wrong to blame defence or Lumley, just two inexplicable headers. Wells needs to be kept up the other end of the pitch and think Cameron was knackered, he had a good game aside of that.
Not sure what a manager can do about those two errors, not a lot basically.
Excellent game to watch, just gutted it ended like that. |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:12 - Dec 21 with 1906 views | traininvain |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:03 - Dec 21 by stevec |
Yeah, wrong to blame defence or Lumley, just two inexplicable headers. Wells needs to be kept up the other end of the pitch and think Cameron was knackered, he had a good game aside of that.
Not sure what a manager can do about those two errors, not a lot basically.
Excellent game to watch, just gutted it ended like that. |
Totally agree. It was an entertaining game. I just hope it doesn’t come back to haunt us.
Wells miss in the first half felt big at the time and proved to be the difference between a draw and a win. I think we’d have won comfortably if he’d scored. | | | |
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| 14th at Christmas on 18:16 - Dec 21 with 1886 views | 1MoreBrightonR |
Wells missed two sitters but was good otherwise. I think calling our individuals is a bit pointless today though....we dominated for spells and didn't take a lot of chances. Eze should have run the clock down at the end and took a shot.bo one complains. It's a team sport and there were positives all over despite some annoying errors | | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:17 - Dec 21 with 1882 views | kensalriser |
While we're all focusing on the defence, Wells hasn't scored for seven games and Hugill six. |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 18:25 - Dec 21 with 1840 views | Match82 |
| 14th at Christmas on 17:33 - Dec 21 by DejR_vu |
The goalkeeper’s the problem, not the defence. If you look at the stats on shots on target we’re about the same as other teams (so would argue the defence isn’t any worse than other sides) but Lumley lets in about one in two. That’s 50% of shots on target he concedes. You can’t expect any defence to restrict the opposition to zero shots on target. We need to score at least one a game, often two, just to get a draw. We need a decent keeper more than we need anything else. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 17:35]
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Lumley was in poor form but was good today, as he was against Birmingham and Preston. Zero chance with either goal today and made some good saves otherwise.
Very happy with Rangers season overall. But feeling deflated today as I'm sure most are, so not surprised there's a touch of negativity |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:36 - Dec 21 with 1807 views | connell10 |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:25 - Dec 21 by Match82 |
Lumley was in poor form but was good today, as he was against Birmingham and Preston. Zero chance with either goal today and made some good saves otherwise.
Very happy with Rangers season overall. But feeling deflated today as I'm sure most are, so not surprised there's a touch of negativity |
Plus the fact Charltons keeper had a great game. |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 19:11 - Dec 21 with 1753 views | CamberleyR |
| 14th at Christmas on 17:53 - Dec 21 by loftus77 |
So frustrating today - but at the half-way point of 2019-20, we know 2 things about our valiant team:
1. Its inexperienced - partic. at this level. We knew this from Day One.
2. Its over-achieving very successfully TVM, in this, the toughest of seasons for all things financial.
The lads fully deserve their Xmas pud - 32points is a fine return.
One final statto point: when did we last open Xmas pressies with more away wins than at home? 1991-92 under Gerry maybe?? [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 17:53]
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Well remembered. That season we had four away wins and two home wins come 25th December. |  |
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| 14th at Christmas on 19:36 - Dec 21 with 1714 views | Miss_Terraces |
Absolutely, I thought relegation was a probability, this season. I'm so happy, that it looks like I was wrong. Last second equaliser, still hurts, no matter where you are in the league | |
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| 14th at Christmas on 21:39 - Dec 21 with 1557 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Must we have one of these patronising threads every time a result doesn't go our way? We're punching above our weight, we get it but it shouldn't be used to contain constructive criticism and certainly doesn't excuse poor defending time and time again |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 21:43 - Dec 21 with 1544 views | aston_hoop |
| 14th at Christmas on 21:39 - Dec 21 by Benny_the_Ball |
Must we have one of these patronising threads every time a result doesn't go our way? We're punching above our weight, we get it but it shouldn't be used to contain constructive criticism and certainly doesn't excuse poor defending time and time again |
Many of us also get that we can't defend, have poor goalkeeping options and generally have many faults. Its not changed and we can debate it all day and all night long. But it is actually nice to take a step back and look at the bigger picture occasionally too, things are ok! | |
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| 14th at Christmas on 21:46 - Dec 21 with 1534 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| 14th at Christmas on 21:43 - Dec 21 by aston_hoop |
Many of us also get that we can't defend, have poor goalkeeping options and generally have many faults. Its not changed and we can debate it all day and all night long. But it is actually nice to take a step back and look at the bigger picture occasionally too, things are ok! |
It's not occasional, it's weekly. And debate is the lifeblood of forums. If folk don't want to read such matters then they're in the wrong place. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 21:51]
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| 14th at Christmas on 21:49 - Dec 21 with 1528 views | aston_hoop |
| 14th at Christmas on 21:46 - Dec 21 by Benny_the_Ball |
It's not occasional, it's weekly. And debate is the lifeblood of forums. If folk don't want to read such matters then they're in the wrong place. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 21:51]
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Then clearly things are going ok!
edit for the edit - of course I'm not suggesting for a second these things don't get debated! But there are other threads for that, I'm simply saying its nice to appreciate where we are overall! [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 22:20]
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| 14th at Christmas on 04:31 - Dec 22 with 1363 views | nix |
I agree with you. While it's incredibly frustrating to have these series of cock ups week in week out, at both ends really because we do miss a hatful of sitters weekly as well as passing some crackers to their forwards to score, I'm still having a blast at HQ. I usually come away from losses or last minute opposition goals absolutely seething. But it's just such a joy to see Eze and BOS playing atm that I still enjoy matches. Eze regularly gets marked by two or three players, and BOS does too, he gets kicked up into the air, he has to do do his fair share of tracking back. But then he does one of his runs taking out several of their players with a roulette or flick over the defenders and it goes a long way to making up for our self-sabotage. Or BOS does one of his surging runs, and it makes up for the occasional bits of dross at the back.
I wasn't really expecting to be above seventeenth this season. So from my perspective we're punching above our weight. I understand that we all get hacked off with the ridiculous errors, particularly as we find a new way to hand points to the opposition every week, but I also think there's room for seeing the positives. I also understand why Warburton tries to rotate the squad. I can see that he wants to protect BOS as a young player and keep him fresh. We have a small squad and some of the replacements, like Matt Smith, Mlakar and Wallace haven't really looked good enough at this level, which limits the manager's options. Whatever I'm enjoying this season so much more than last season. |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 05:39 - Dec 22 with 1345 views | BushRanger82 |
This is why we never really evolve as a football club. Too many people inside, and outside the club, try to take positives from the fact they all thought we'd be shit, but are in actual fact, not as shit as they thought we would be.
Like every time the club is humiliated by either Brentford or Fulham, we quickly put it behind us and move on to the next game, until either Brentford or Fulham humiliate us the next time we play them, again. |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 09:16 - Dec 22 with 1189 views | MelakaRanger |
| 14th at Christmas on 18:17 - Dec 21 by kensalriser |
While we're all focusing on the defence, Wells hasn't scored for seven games and Hugill six. |
And maybe this is the difference between our first 10 games and the last 10.
Although we were shipping goals before, we were scoring with 'ease'.
But both Wells and Hugill have gone off the boil. Wells has missed a few sitters recently and Hugill seems to shot high (way too high) more often than not.
Despite all our ever continuing defensive frailties, perhaps if our main attack force hadn't dried up over the past month or so, we would have a good few more points on the board. |  | | |
| 14th at Christmas on 12:27 - Dec 22 with 1084 views | francisbowles |
| 14th at Christmas on 09:16 - Dec 22 by MelakaRanger |
And maybe this is the difference between our first 10 games and the last 10.
Although we were shipping goals before, we were scoring with 'ease'.
But both Wells and Hugill have gone off the boil. Wells has missed a few sitters recently and Hugill seems to shot high (way too high) more often than not.
Despite all our ever continuing defensive frailties, perhaps if our main attack force hadn't dried up over the past month or so, we would have a good few more points on the board. |
Hugill may not be scoring but he is a massive presence as a target man, fighting for every ball, winning most of his duels and giving Lumley an alternative to playing out from the back or trying to find the full back on the half way line. He has his limitations and I don't know how a club could pay the millions they did for him but he is doing a very good job for us | | | |
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