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After last nights debacle.......has anyone changed their minds???

VAR on 12:09 - Oct 27 with 1356 views

WokingR

VAR on 11:51 - Oct 27 by Loftgirl
Supposing it was Keith Stroud's turn to be in Stockley Park?

Perfect

We only need them all in the same place once

VAR on 12:44 - Oct 27 with 1314 views

dmm

VAR on 10:20 - Oct 27 by gazza1
Anyone who says 'NO to VAR should stop complaining about last night......humans make errors and that is what happened last night. We would be into the Q/F, most probably, if VAR was active last night - very simple 30 second decision for VAR. Most around where I was sitting thought it was offside last night......but it wasn't after watching a simple replay. [Post edited 27 Oct 2021 10:21]

What a very strange opinion. You are calling for the removal of the right of fans, players, managers and anyone connected with the game to complain about bad officiating unless we all give VAR the thumbs up.

Referees and their assistants applaud you.

VAR on 13:00 - Oct 27 with 1298 views

Juzzie

I was always in favour of VAR. The problem is that it isn't being used properly.

Last night is a perfect example of what it's for. It's not whether a player's toe/elbow/fingernail is offside, that's a goal.

Disallowing a goal because a toe is offside is just fkin' stupid (even if it did deny Chelsea a late equaliser in the FA Cup final!.... that's allowed though)

VAR on 13:10 - Oct 27 with 1272 views

GaryT

VAR on 13:00 - Oct 27 by Juzzie
I was always in favour of VAR. The problem is that it isn't being used properly. Last night is a perfect example of what it's for. It's not whether a player's toe/elbow/fingernail is offside, that's a goal. Disallowing a goal because a toe is offside is just fkin' stupid (even if it did deny Chelsea a late equaliser in the FA Cup final!.... that's allowed though)

I think the lines should be removed. If they guy in front of the TVs can't tell if it is offside from a still frame, it's a goal. Some on here thought Charlie was offside in real time but a still shot clearly blows that out of the water.

VAR for clear and obvious errors, if it is too close to call, don't call it.

VAR on 13:42 - Oct 27 with 1238 views

Rangersw12

VAR on 10:20 - Oct 27 by gazza1
Anyone who says 'NO to VAR should stop complaining about last night......humans make errors and that is what happened last night. We would be into the Q/F, most probably, if VAR was active last night - very simple 30 second decision for VAR. Most around where I was sitting thought it was offside last night......but it wasn't after watching a simple replay. [Post edited 27 Oct 2021 10:21]

Load of rubbish

A Sunday league linesman and Ref would of seen Charlie was clearly onside yesterday

There is human error and then consistent incompetence from this referee who shouldn't referee another game in his life

VAR on 13:55 - Oct 27 with 1208 views

Kitchen threads or polls?

VAR on 13:42 - Oct 27 by Rangersw12
Load of rubbish A Sunday league linesman and Ref would of seen Charlie was clearly onside yesterday There is human error and then consistent incompetence from this referee who shouldn't referee another game in his life

Bad mistake by the AR, but nothing to do with the referee.

As a few have said above, in real time it looked offside.

VAR, I was always dead against, now a little torn.

Last night is 100% why it was introduced, but for it to work, as you can't correct a wrong offside call in the build up to a goal, it has to be like in the PL, where ARs don't flag for any offside unless its about 2/3 yards plus - so you get quite a few 'goals' ruled out that way.

However blaming Stroud is like blaming Warburton for the penalty misses - very 'glaring errors' there as well!

VAR on 13:58 - Oct 27 with 1188 views

BlackCrowe

VAR on 13:55 - Oct 27 by PinnerPaul

Apart from missing the clear handball during the controversy before the 'offside' goal was scored. So at the very least it was a pen.

Poll:

VAR on 14:38 - Oct 27 with 1134 views

VAR on 13:55 - Oct 27 by PinnerPaul

110% correct....sadly most cannot understand, but that is what to expect from many posters, clueless!!!!

VAR on 14:45 - Oct 27 with 1122 views

VAR on 13:55 - Oct 27 by PinnerPaul

On another point PP.......

VAR - gives protection & help to the officials. Now I don't know exactly what the AR feels like but I would expect that the AR will be devastated by his error and being the, probably, reason why his error cost the team that he made an incorrect call against was knocked out of a national cup competition. (or do you think he went to bed last night 'sleeping soundly')

Any thoughts?

VAR on 14:51 - Oct 27 with 1109 views

VAR on 12:44 - Oct 27 by dmm
What a very strange opinion. You are calling for the removal of the right of fans, players, managers and anyone connected with the game to complain about bad officiating unless we all give VAR the thumbs up. Referees and their assistants applaud you.

Very rational opinion indeed!!!! We are talking key decisions for VAR.

And I wonder if Refs/ARs support VAR or not??.....you seem to think they do - any facts or just a 'finger in the air' jobbie??

VAR on 14:53 - Oct 27 with 1098 views

VAR on 14:45 - Oct 27 by gazza1

Doubt the AR had a sleepless night over the decision.

VAR on 14:55 - Oct 27 with 1096 views

R_from_afar

Nope, I am still 100% in favour of it. Brighton played Liverpool last season in a game in which VAR played a massive role.

The result without VAR: Brighton 0 Liverpool 3
The result with VAR: Brighton 1 Liverpool 1.

VAR works well in other sports and has also been used well in some football tournaments, so I am completely behind it.

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

VAR on 14:57 - Oct 27 with 1093 views

VAR on 14:53 - Oct 27 by QPR_John
Doubt the AR had a sleepless night over the decision.

Why do you think that??? Any reason??

VAR on 15:10 - Oct 27 with 1064 views

Why should the AR have a sleepless night. He is not concerned as to what team won the game. If he even thought for a minute he had made a mistake he knows the worse that would happen would be to miss a couple of games.

VAR on 15:13 - Oct 27 with 1060 views

VAR on 13:58 - Oct 27 by BlackCrowe
Apart from missing the clear handball during the controversy before the 'offside' goal was scored. So at the very least it was a pen.

Yes just said on another thread, it WAS handball.

VAR on 15:17 - Oct 27 with 1050 views

VAR on 14:45 - Oct 27 by gazza1

No he won't and he won't be looking forward to the observer's report, his mark and de brief.

Yes he will miss a few games and kill off any aspirations he might have had on getting to the elite list - some will say does that matter, but its more of a punishment than Chair or Barbet will get!

VAR on 15:17 - Oct 27 with 1049 views

BklynRanger

VAR on 14:57 - Oct 27 by gazza1
Why do you think that??? Any reason??

You're 'expecting'!!!! that the AR will be 'devastated!!!! by his 'error'!!!!

Any??? facts to back up??? your own? thoughts???

VAR on 15:28 - Oct 27 with 1031 views

VAR on 15:17 - Oct 27 by PinnerPaul
No he won't and he won't be looking forward to the observer's report, his mark and de brief. Yes he will miss a few games and kill off any aspirations he might have had on getting to the elite list - some will say does that matter, but its more of a punishment than Chair or Barbet will get!

I would like to think the observer will not adopt the company line but I won’t hold my breath. It would be interesting to see the referees report on the game. They have already let Stroud off from a basic error in the laws of the game so I doubt they would want to go through that again. Worse that can happen is that both officials carry on till the end of the season so this game is forgotten and then quietly retired.

An officials error cannot be equated to players error and should be punished more severely. Every players error that causes his team to lose becomes a punishment in itself added to that most probably a financial punishment as well.

[Post edited 27 Oct 2021 15:33]

VAR on 15:37 - Oct 27 with 1005 views

VAR on 15:28 - Oct 27 by QPR_John

[Post edited 27 Oct 2021 15:33]

I'm not having that Barbet and Chair get fined for missing a pen!

Like it or not, EVERY decision, in EVERY game IS marked by an Observer as, in his opinion, right or wrong.

For KMIs (Key Match Incidents) the officials are asked why they made a particular decision.

What is done with that information is open to debate, but to effectively sack someone for an error is not only harsh, in any profession, but would be against employment law I would think!

VAR on 15:59 - Oct 27 with 965 views

HAYESBOY

VAR for me is a good thing if you get the decisions right.
Its not the technology, its the idiots doing the reviewing, round the corner from me at Stockley Park.
What I would say is that when VAR was rolled out it should have gone to to all the professional levels. Its like playing by different rules. If the Prem wanted it so badly then they can pay to have all the leagues included.
On the decision last night, its not explainable. Its not as though he was trying to keep up with a long ball over the top, or a pacey forward running onto a through ball. He was in line and he got it wrong by a large margin.

Smells like a trout farm in here

VAR on 16:15 - Oct 27 with 949 views

WatfordR

VAR on 09:52 - Oct 27 by Rangersw12
Nope VAR is the worst thing ever to happen to football. It kills that enjoyment of scoring a goal.

Well the officials killed all the enjoyment of scoring a goal last night without any help from technology!!

VAR on 16:19 - Oct 27 with 943 views

dmm

VAR on 14:51 - Oct 27 by gazza1
Very rational opinion indeed!!!! We are talking key decisions for VAR. And I wonder if Refs/ARs support VAR or not??.....you seem to think they do - any facts or just a 'finger in the air' jobbie??

I've absolutely no idea whether or not match officials support VAR. I was being facetious about you calling for people who are against VAR to stop complaining about refs and ARs.

VAR on 16:22 - Oct 27 with 937 views

VAR on 15:37 - Oct 27 by PinnerPaul

I’m not suggesting they get fined. The financial penalty would possibly be from losing a win bonus or a bonus for reaching a certain round in the cup

VAR on 16:51 - Oct 27 with 892 views