| October could be make or break 00:18 - Sep 27 with 1280 views | MelakaRanger |
Firstly I must point out that I have been a great fan of Hughes and still believe that he should be able to build a great, successful team at Loftus Rd.
But the start to this season has been well below expectations for all concerned. And although many fans on this forum are showing patience, I wonder how much longer this will last if we don't start winning? Especially after Hughes made that 'never again' statement after the Man City match last May
We should beat West Ham on Monday but then again we should have beaten Reading, Spurs and Chelsea. We didn't. With current form, to an outsider, it would be difficult to see us getting wins against Everton, W. Brom and Arsenal.
I know its still early days and two wins on the trot could take us to mid table but by the end of October we will be 9 games into the season.
I want Hughes to succeed, I want us to start winning, I do not want to see fans calling for 'Hughes Out'. I believe the tide will turn. I want to see 8 points from the next 4 games. Then I can see this team getting stronger and more successful throughout the rest of the season.
My question is though, if after the Arsenal game we are still in the bottom 3 and winless (or maybe with just 1 win) will the fans and Tony F still be patient or will 'changes' become inevitable?
What do people think?
My own tuppence worth is that firstly I think October will be the turning point for the team and we will start winning but if we don't and we find ourselves win less or in the bottom 3, the fans will turn and Tony F will be planning a change, that should things not improve in November is executed early December.
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| October could be make or break on 00:23 - Sep 27 with 918 views | wombat |
Well thought out and I'm in the same boat , I want Hughes to do well I'm just not he is going to . Our away record is awful under him. The worry I have is we don't have a plan B , tonight we played some fantastic one touch football but with out really threatening reading. That much , it's. a shame that Adel was injured again tonight as I'd have loved to see him and houilet supporting cisse instead of park/ mackie
I hope he changes the tide but if it dosnt change sooner rather than later something has to change at the top as we can afford to have another relegation fight this season |  |
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| October could be make or break on 00:26 - Sep 27 with 910 views | daveB |
this season has started a bit similar to Gerry Francis first season, we've battered teams at times but can't buy a win. It took him till mid October to beat anyone and we ended up quite comfortbale, I expect the same to happen again but it's quite frustrating,
Worst start since before Flavio arrived |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 00:27 - Sep 27 with 909 views | qprdan |
I was thinking the same thing tonight, will Tonys patience run out if this doesnt turn around pretty quick, he has put his money where his mouth is and will expect better. I quite like Hughes but our owner is a succesful businessman and wont put up with failures.
I dont want Hughes out by any means but he and the players have got to start winning games.
It was said on twitter tonught that Adel will be back in contention for Monday night, maybe there is the turning point?
Heres hoping you rrrrr's |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 00:27 - Sep 27 with 909 views | essextaxiboy |
As has been posted recently the club has bought into the whole "Hughes" thing . He has brought in a whole range of support staff , spent a relatively large(for us ) transfer budget and chosen his 25 man squad .
We have to give him time . He traditionally takes a few games to get his message across and is starting again with all of our new players.
For me he is not a likeable man , he seems aloof and is boring when he talks to the media.
I feel he has made some key mistakes this season , but he has had rotten luck too . 10 League games is a reasonable time for a first assessment but he has to be given at least as long as Warnock. I think he is here for the season hopefully with some success. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| October could be make or break on 00:35 - Sep 27 with 885 views | Cornish_oooRRRR |
We're a couple of wins away from being a great team.
New manager speculation + new manager + settling in = best chance for relegation
Can the doomers please calm down |  |
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| October could be make or break on 00:48 - Sep 27 with 862 views | kensalriser |
Not a Hughes fan, I wasn't thrilled when he was appointed and I've seen nothing so far to change my mind. I don't give a flying fck whether or not he's a nice man or how good he is with the media, he's a football manager not a TV presenter. I just want him to do his job adequately and right now he's not (and nor did he last season).
Yes, we've acquired some good players but funds were made available to do so and yes we've put in a couple of decent performances but we've sod all to show for it, there are too many players off the pace and no-one seems to know what our best 11 is and how they should play.
Not calling for him to go for a moment and I don't think we'll go down but I do expect that we'll struggle for much if not all of the season and will be lucky to finish more than a couple of places clear. |  |
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| October could be make or break on 00:51 - Sep 27 with 853 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| October could be make or break on 00:26 - Sep 27 by daveB |
this season has started a bit similar to Gerry Francis first season, we've battered teams at times but can't buy a win. It took him till mid October to beat anyone and we ended up quite comfortbale, I expect the same to happen again but it's quite frustrating,
Worst start since before Flavio arrived |
Was that the season our first win was away at Luton, after we were robbed against Arsenal on the opening day? We were bottom after about 8 games |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 00:53 - Sep 27 with 848 views | daveB |
| October could be make or break on 00:51 - Sep 27 by hamptonhillhoop |
Was that the season our first win was away at Luton, after we were robbed against Arsenal on the opening day? We were bottom after about 8 games |
yeah, first home win was in october against everton, same year we won 4-1 at man utd and Les came of age | | | |
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| October could be make or break on 07:37 - Sep 27 with 752 views | corse |
im not a hughes fan and i think everybody here knows it.
we have played two good 45 mins in seperate games under his reign this season but i cannot see any signs that we will eventually get a good 90 mins.
what annoys me at the moment is that he dont seem to have any plan what to do when we are one down or when defending our lead.
and why in earth he does choose park and mackie into the starting 11??? beats me.
mackie is a very selfish player and constantly loses the ball after dribbling and trying to get past three defenders when a pass could serve the purpose. and what have park done? absolutely nothing. few nice passes but seems uninterested and dont chase the ball a bit. he s been a plain tourist in all the games so far. he used to be a constant thread in the midfield and very clever player and made some great goals but now he is nothing but a mere shadow of what he used to be. no wonder fergie allowed him to leave. the biggest dissapointment of our signings under hughes spell.
and our forwards? cisse needs some one to serve him from left or right. park dont do that nor does mackie. johnson is out as was expected cause he is injury prone and zamora have made a couple of goals but has not been impressive in any ways so far.
i fear we wont get very many points from next four games and will be in the bottom three at the end of october. thats how it looks at the moment.
we do have a good team if you dont count some of the players and should do better. much better.
tony f will make his mind in some point and no matter how much money he has been giving to hughes and his staff and the great idea of signing in zamora, johnson, onuoha, green and park he will eventually show the door to hughes if hughes dont get any results in the next three or four games. |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 07:51 - Sep 27 with 725 views | Neil_SI |
What we need is consistency of performance first. That's what we've not had for a very long time, and we need that first to be able to find some kind of form. That does take time to build when you keep chopping and changing the squad, and because we've signed so many players in such a short space of time, it's going to take them a little bit of time to find that identity and character needed to deal with certain situations on the pitch.
It's more about the players getting to know each others temperaments and personalities with dealing with certain situations. Once that happens, they can start to stabilise and provide more consistent displays.
The results will hopefully improve, but whether we win, draw or lose the next two games doesn't really matter, because if we win both, it's only a stepping stone to where we need to be, and the same if we even lose both. The losses however sap morale and confidence and will get the fans on your back, so they've got to dig in deep and try to pick up as many points as they can.
The problem with us sometimes is if we win a couple or lose a couple, suddenly we're the best thing since slice bread or the worst side in history. And that's an expectation that needs to be balanced out. We can't afford to get carried away one way or another, we just need steady continual progress.
I've not seen much of that, but maybe it's because it's too early too soon. We had two good performances in back-to-back matches for the first time in a very long time against Chelsea and Tottenham, but if we think we've suddenly clicked and made it, we're very wrong about that assumption. It's going to take time and work, and the side need to show that kind of consistency for much longer stretches, in terms of weeks and months, before we really know whether they are capable or not.
There's obviously some very good players in the squad, so we should be positive about that and the recent signs are more positive in the sense that we are moving forward, albeit a little slowly. It's a bit strange to see them play as badly as they did in the early part of the season and then as good as they did in the last two, with a completely different style and approach. The contrast from one end of the spectrum to the other is what raises my eyebrows a little bit.
But I guess that goes to show it's all still very much a work in progress, and highlights the dangers we face, but also what we could be if we can get it right and maintain it. I had hoped a lot of this work would have been done in the off season and pre-season, but it looks like our preparations have turned out to be wrong in terms of the on the pitch tactics and style, and therefore, we're having to address that and find the answers during the early part of the season, so for me, results, wins, losses and draws, tend to become a bit of a lottery.
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| October could be make or break on 08:39 - Sep 27 with 679 views | ElHoop |
I think that last night might be a blessing in disguise although it feels miserable enough this moring.
Some credit has to go to Reading as they played quite a high line and kept us under pressure at the back so that we couldn't get a passing game going - Dyer particularly being under a lot of pressure when put in possession by Cesar. Given that Plan A wasn't working then the Plan B would have to be playing it longer but Cisse was never going to keep enough possession on his own and we don't have a substitute Zamora. I'm not sure what we'll do in the League if Zamora gets injured, which will happen sooner or later. He's pivotal to our options as well as our ability to score at present.
West Ham will almost certainly try to beat us the same way, so that's why it's a blessing in disguise. Surely we can come up with a better game plan for monday, especially with Zamora starting?
I'm still worried about our ability to score goals. OK 2 should be enough to avoid defeat, but only Cisse and Hoilett looked like scoring last night. Last season we had inferior players individually, but the likes of Smith and Buzsaky could score the occasional crucial goal. We haven't replaced that capacity in my view. The top clubs have players who can knock it around AND score.
I still think that we'll be OK but the West Ham game has become a fascinating prospect, and very important too. It's a significant game for a few of our players and of course our Chairman. |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 08:47 - Sep 27 with 668 views | thairanger |
Harry is now 15/8 from 14/1 I think the West Ham is very significant |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:01 - Sep 27 with 636 views | pomanjou |
| October could be make or break on 08:47 - Sep 27 by thairanger |
Harry is now 15/8 from 14/1 I think the West Ham is very significant |
Probably a reflection of money placed rather than bookies assessment. The cost of paying off Hughes and his army of assistants would be ginormous and probably the biggest deal the club has ever done. Far too early for that. |  |
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| October could be make or break on 09:09 - Sep 27 with 624 views | ElHoop |
Hughes has to sort it out, end of story. | | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:24 - Sep 27 with 607 views | Lblock |
Next Monday is Sparkys date with destiny
Candle face waiting in the wings |  |
| Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal |
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| October could be make or break on 09:32 - Sep 27 with 587 views | Monahoop |
If we are floundering in the bottom five by Christmas, and there is a distinct possibility we could be, does anyone think Hughes will still be employed at QPR? Think about it. QPR, hire and fire club par excellence. I hope it doesn't come to this as stability under our current regime is key to our progress no matter how slowly it may take. Some fans are willing to show patience, but others and the club owners maybe less so. To state an old footballing cliche, winning becomes a habit, but so does losing.
Hughes needs to get his finger out soon or he could be living on borrowed time between the tail end of October and December. |  |
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| October could be make or break on 09:42 - Sep 27 with 567 views | nadera78 |
| October could be make or break on 07:51 - Sep 27 by Neil_SI |
What we need is consistency of performance first. That's what we've not had for a very long time, and we need that first to be able to find some kind of form. That does take time to build when you keep chopping and changing the squad, and because we've signed so many players in such a short space of time, it's going to take them a little bit of time to find that identity and character needed to deal with certain situations on the pitch.
It's more about the players getting to know each others temperaments and personalities with dealing with certain situations. Once that happens, they can start to stabilise and provide more consistent displays.
The results will hopefully improve, but whether we win, draw or lose the next two games doesn't really matter, because if we win both, it's only a stepping stone to where we need to be, and the same if we even lose both. The losses however sap morale and confidence and will get the fans on your back, so they've got to dig in deep and try to pick up as many points as they can.
The problem with us sometimes is if we win a couple or lose a couple, suddenly we're the best thing since slice bread or the worst side in history. And that's an expectation that needs to be balanced out. We can't afford to get carried away one way or another, we just need steady continual progress.
I've not seen much of that, but maybe it's because it's too early too soon. We had two good performances in back-to-back matches for the first time in a very long time against Chelsea and Tottenham, but if we think we've suddenly clicked and made it, we're very wrong about that assumption. It's going to take time and work, and the side need to show that kind of consistency for much longer stretches, in terms of weeks and months, before we really know whether they are capable or not.
There's obviously some very good players in the squad, so we should be positive about that and the recent signs are more positive in the sense that we are moving forward, albeit a little slowly. It's a bit strange to see them play as badly as they did in the early part of the season and then as good as they did in the last two, with a completely different style and approach. The contrast from one end of the spectrum to the other is what raises my eyebrows a little bit.
But I guess that goes to show it's all still very much a work in progress, and highlights the dangers we face, but also what we could be if we can get it right and maintain it. I had hoped a lot of this work would have been done in the off season and pre-season, but it looks like our preparations have turned out to be wrong in terms of the on the pitch tactics and style, and therefore, we're having to address that and find the answers during the early part of the season, so for me, results, wins, losses and draws, tend to become a bit of a lottery.
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I'll agree with all of that. The only thing I'd add is that I think another defeat (even if it comes with a good performance) against West Ham will really damage the players. They (and the fans) will start to ignore the football being played and focus entirely on the result, or lack of. And that's never a good thing. Heads drop, people start to question what they're doing, and it becomes difficult at that point for the manager and staff to re-focus the players. | | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:45 - Sep 27 with 564 views | PinnerPaul |
| October could be make or break on 09:24 - Sep 27 by Lblock |
Next Monday is Sparkys date with destiny
Candle face waiting in the wings |
Yes only 32 games to go after that! 
What nonsense - and what exactly is a new manger supposed to do , apart from sack all MH's backroom staff, bring in his own team and p off 80% of the players who were signed to MH's project.
Given all that it will take at least another 10 games (after the initial honeymoon & win that always comes with a new manager) for the team to settle down again.
Come January any new manager is going to want to clear out players and bring some more in, cue another 10 game settling in period.
Can't believe that anyone thinks that the above is more likely to improve things than sticking with Hughes who hasn't even been here 12 months.
Remember the stick Flave & co got for changing the manager after 2 successive defeats and now some fans are behaving in exactly the same way!
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| October could be make or break on 09:49 - Sep 27 with 550 views | daveB |
Although Flavio was mad the fans often called for a manager to go after a defeat years before he ever turned up, we've always been mental and over reacted to a defeat. | | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:50 - Sep 27 with 547 views | adhoc_qpr |
The fact is, this team is continually finding ways to lose games from very strong positions.
Even against Swansea we bossed the majority of the first half and at half time i remember being pretty sure we would get something out of it - but then their 2nd goal sent our players into a flatspin they didn't recover from.
I'm not panicking yet, but if we aren't midtable (12-16th) by the final whistle of the Southampton game on November 17th - Hughes will be under serious scrutiny because he's had carte blanche and huge backing to support him.
Arry is sitting by the phone waiting for a prem chairman to get an itchy trigger finger and it could well be us. | | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:51 - Sep 27 with 539 views | hoopstar67 |
| October could be make or break on 09:45 - Sep 27 by PinnerPaul |
Yes only 32 games to go after that!
What nonsense - and what exactly is a new manger supposed to do , apart from sack all MH's backroom staff, bring in his own team and p off 80% of the players who were signed to MH's project.
Given all that it will take at least another 10 games (after the initial honeymoon & win that always comes with a new manager) for the team to settle down again.
Come January any new manager is going to want to clear out players and bring some more in, cue another 10 game settling in period.
Can't believe that anyone thinks that the above is more likely to improve things than sticking with Hughes who hasn't even been here 12 months.
Remember the stick Flave & co got for changing the manager after 2 successive defeats and now some fans are behaving in exactly the same way!
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Totally agree, had a look on the WATRB site last night out of pure curiosity and there were several threads wanting hughes sacked now and a lot agreeing on there,totally ridiculous,i'm sure spiritofgregory and the other usual suspects will be saying exactly the same today on here. |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 09:55 - Sep 27 with 532 views | nadera78 |
| October could be make or break on 09:50 - Sep 27 by adhoc_qpr |
The fact is, this team is continually finding ways to lose games from very strong positions.
Even against Swansea we bossed the majority of the first half and at half time i remember being pretty sure we would get something out of it - but then their 2nd goal sent our players into a flatspin they didn't recover from.
I'm not panicking yet, but if we aren't midtable (12-16th) by the final whistle of the Southampton game on November 17th - Hughes will be under serious scrutiny because he's had carte blanche and huge backing to support him.
Arry is sitting by the phone waiting for a prem chairman to get an itchy trigger finger and it could well be us. |
Harry F*cking Redknapp? Get out, now! | | | |
| October could be make or break on 10:06 - Sep 27 with 510 views | Jamie |
| October could be make or break on 09:55 - Sep 27 by nadera78 |
Harry F*cking Redknapp? Get out, now! |
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| October could be make or break on 10:09 - Sep 27 with 504 views | RBlock |
| October could be make or break on 07:51 - Sep 27 by Neil_SI |
What we need is consistency of performance first. That's what we've not had for a very long time, and we need that first to be able to find some kind of form. That does take time to build when you keep chopping and changing the squad, and because we've signed so many players in such a short space of time, it's going to take them a little bit of time to find that identity and character needed to deal with certain situations on the pitch.
It's more about the players getting to know each others temperaments and personalities with dealing with certain situations. Once that happens, they can start to stabilise and provide more consistent displays.
The results will hopefully improve, but whether we win, draw or lose the next two games doesn't really matter, because if we win both, it's only a stepping stone to where we need to be, and the same if we even lose both. The losses however sap morale and confidence and will get the fans on your back, so they've got to dig in deep and try to pick up as many points as they can.
The problem with us sometimes is if we win a couple or lose a couple, suddenly we're the best thing since slice bread or the worst side in history. And that's an expectation that needs to be balanced out. We can't afford to get carried away one way or another, we just need steady continual progress.
I've not seen much of that, but maybe it's because it's too early too soon. We had two good performances in back-to-back matches for the first time in a very long time against Chelsea and Tottenham, but if we think we've suddenly clicked and made it, we're very wrong about that assumption. It's going to take time and work, and the side need to show that kind of consistency for much longer stretches, in terms of weeks and months, before we really know whether they are capable or not.
There's obviously some very good players in the squad, so we should be positive about that and the recent signs are more positive in the sense that we are moving forward, albeit a little slowly. It's a bit strange to see them play as badly as they did in the early part of the season and then as good as they did in the last two, with a completely different style and approach. The contrast from one end of the spectrum to the other is what raises my eyebrows a little bit.
But I guess that goes to show it's all still very much a work in progress, and highlights the dangers we face, but also what we could be if we can get it right and maintain it. I had hoped a lot of this work would have been done in the off season and pre-season, but it looks like our preparations have turned out to be wrong in terms of the on the pitch tactics and style, and therefore, we're having to address that and find the answers during the early part of the season, so for me, results, wins, losses and draws, tend to become a bit of a lottery.
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"The problem with us sometimes is if we win a couple or lose a couple, suddenly we're the best thing since slice bread or the worst side in history. And that's an expectation that needs to be balanced out. We can't afford to get carried away one way or another, we just need steady continual progress. "
That is bang on the mark.  |  | | |
| October could be make or break on 10:55 - Sep 27 with 464 views | kensalriser |
Trouble is, the results aren't a lottery as they might be if the problem is inconsistent performances. Four losses and two draws against Premier League opposition is consistently poor. | |
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