| John Moores 13:58 - Oct 30 with 24926 views | blaine_scfc |
Anyone know anything about this guy? American businessman who wants to invest in us named on SSN. |  | | |  |
| John Moores on 17:27 - Nov 1 with 1215 views | Phil_S |
| John Moores on 17:23 - Nov 1 by _ |
Phil? Can you explain why Shaky is worthless? No need for that, is there? |
Yup it was this line that swung it
"As you sow, so shall you reap, dumbass. "
The kind of person that decides those are the lines that they need to make comment with probably don't have the professional opinion that you could value too much. Especially when there are others out there with an equal - if not superior - knowledge. |  | | |
| John Moores on 17:28 - Nov 1 with 1215 views | Shaky |
| John Moores on 17:23 - Nov 1 by _ |
Phil? Can you explain why Shaky is worthless? No need for that, is there? |
No need to worry about this, Chris.
Phil's and my opinions of each other are mutually unflattering, and I don't see anything changing that in the near term. |  |
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| John Moores on 17:30 - Nov 1 with 1183 views | MrSwan |
Did he watch us today |  |
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| John Moores on 17:31 - Nov 1 with 1179 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| John Moores on 13:07 - Nov 1 by Darran |
I don't know the answer but the most vociferous on here against outside investment also reckon we should be further up the table. |
Aye. That will be the "negative agenda" bunch. AKA me |  |
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| John Moores on 17:32 - Nov 1 with 1165 views | Darran |
| John Moores on 17:31 - Nov 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
Aye. That will be the "negative agenda" bunch. AKA me |
Besic. |  |
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| John Moores on 17:33 - Nov 1 with 1166 views | _ |
| John Moores on 17:27 - Nov 1 by Phil_S |
Yup it was this line that swung it
"As you sow, so shall you reap, dumbass. "
The kind of person that decides those are the lines that they need to make comment with probably don't have the professional opinion that you could value too much. Especially when there are others out there with an equal - if not superior - knowledge. |
It's clear Shaky knows what he's talking about Phil, just because he's not afraid to say what's on his mind does not qualify him as worthless.
And his comment came after your worthless one.
Phil, I'd be disappointed we're not getting as many opinions and as much advice as possible. At least we know Shaky's got a fight in him. |  |
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| John Moores on 17:34 - Nov 1 with 1159 views | Shaky |
| John Moores on 17:27 - Nov 1 by Phil_S |
Yup it was this line that swung it
"As you sow, so shall you reap, dumbass. "
The kind of person that decides those are the lines that they need to make comment with probably don't have the professional opinion that you could value too much. Especially when there are others out there with an equal - if not superior - knowledge. |
Could your perhaps consider rephrasing the first sentence there, Phil; to me it is gibberish, I'm afraid. | |
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| John Moores on 17:34 - Nov 1 with 1159 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| John Moores on 13:07 - Nov 1 by Darran |
I don't know the answer but the most vociferous on here against outside investment also reckon we should be further up the table. |
Do you mean the entire Swansea Trust? | |
| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| John Moores on 17:35 - Nov 1 with 1156 views | _ |
| John Moores on 17:32 - Nov 1 by Darran |
Besic. |
Ignore this utter fool, Steve... | |
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| John Moores on 17:36 - Nov 1 with 1152 views | Darran |
| John Moores on 17:33 - Nov 1 by _ |
It's clear Shaky knows what he's talking about Phil, just because he's not afraid to say what's on his mind does not qualify him as worthless.
And his comment came after your worthless one.
Phil, I'd be disappointed we're not getting as many opinions and as much advice as possible. At least we know Shaky's got a fight in him. |
Who said he's not then?  | |
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| John Moores on 17:39 - Nov 1 with 1142 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| John Moores on 17:35 - Nov 1 by _ |
Ignore this utter fool, Steve... |
Tell HIM mun! He's been chasing me around all afternoon accusing me of stalking him .
Doesn't he know I've got much better people to stalk? Tsk mun | |
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| John Moores on 17:41 - Nov 1 with 1136 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| John Moores on 17:33 - Nov 1 by _ |
It's clear Shaky knows what he's talking about Phil, just because he's not afraid to say what's on his mind does not qualify him as worthless.
And his comment came after your worthless one.
Phil, I'd be disappointed we're not getting as many opinions and as much advice as possible. At least we know Shaky's got a fight in him. |
Not sure where he comes from, but I'm pretty sure he is someone who has never watched the Swans, has little interest in us or our history or football generally, but likes to bore on about investment crap. Why do you think he has something to offer to people who have been there, seen it and done it with supporters trusts for many years now?
Maybe he'd have something to offer if he got some experience first, but he comes off as someone with a little knowledge winging it generally and with no specialist knowledge in football supporter ownership models. [Post edited 1 Nov 2014 17:42]
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| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| John Moores on 17:43 - Nov 1 with 1116 views | _ |
| John Moores on 17:39 - Nov 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
Tell HIM mun! He's been chasing me around all afternoon accusing me of stalking him .
Doesn't he know I've got much better people to stalk? Tsk mun |
Got to be the biggest prick I've come across in such a long time, mate... Most see through him though. | |
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| John Moores on 17:47 - Nov 1 with 1097 views | _ |
| John Moores on 17:41 - Nov 1 by NeiltheTaylor |
Not sure where he comes from, but I'm pretty sure he is someone who has never watched the Swans, has little interest in us or our history or football generally, but likes to bore on about investment crap. Why do you think he has something to offer to people who have been there, seen it and done it with supporters trusts for many years now?
Maybe he'd have something to offer if he got some experience first, but he comes off as someone with a little knowledge winging it generally and with no specialist knowledge in football supporter ownership models. [Post edited 1 Nov 2014 17:42]
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What he may come across like and what he actually is are two different things though, mate... The boys on the Trust are not expert in high finance and I'm sure they'd all admit that and I know they've spoken to equally as competent guys but I wouldn't want to rule out anyone capable enough of helping out, no matter how they are perceived on a football forum as.
The more the merrier because we're all on the right side of the fence over here... Let's keep it like that. | |
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| John Moores on 17:48 - Nov 1 with 1084 views | Darran |
| John Moores on 17:43 - Nov 1 by _ |
Got to be the biggest prick I've come across in such a long time, mate... Most see through him though. |
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| John Moores on 17:51 - Nov 1 with 1075 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| John Moores on 17:47 - Nov 1 by _ |
What he may come across like and what he actually is are two different things though, mate... The boys on the Trust are not expert in high finance and I'm sure they'd all admit that and I know they've spoken to equally as competent guys but I wouldn't want to rule out anyone capable enough of helping out, no matter how they are perceived on a football forum as.
The more the merrier because we're all on the right side of the fence over here... Let's keep it like that. |
Fair enough. I Try to keep an open mind to this stuff, but sometimes you have to watch for the 5th Columnists ;) | |
| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| John Moores on 17:51 - Nov 1 with 1074 views | Phil_S |
| John Moores on 17:33 - Nov 1 by _ |
It's clear Shaky knows what he's talking about Phil, just because he's not afraid to say what's on his mind does not qualify him as worthless.
And his comment came after your worthless one.
Phil, I'd be disappointed we're not getting as many opinions and as much advice as possible. At least we know Shaky's got a fight in him. |
Whatever you think Chris - you won't get to me like to get to the others on here
There is more than enough advice being sought - mainly from people whose opinion is that of a professional nature and who you can hold a discussion with without being patronised or looked down at with no clue as to others knowledge
I'm not sure Shaky has a fight in him - other than posts on an internet forum, I am not sure where you can draw that conclusion from
More than happy with the level of professional advice that we are getting at the moment - ironically lots of it from people that Shaky will tell you know nothing
Over and out | | | |
| John Moores on 17:53 - Nov 1 with 1063 views | Darran |
| John Moores on 17:51 - Nov 1 by Phil_S |
Whatever you think Chris - you won't get to me like to get to the others on here
There is more than enough advice being sought - mainly from people whose opinion is that of a professional nature and who you can hold a discussion with without being patronised or looked down at with no clue as to others knowledge
I'm not sure Shaky has a fight in him - other than posts on an internet forum, I am not sure where you can draw that conclusion from
More than happy with the level of professional advice that we are getting at the moment - ironically lots of it from people that Shaky will tell you know nothing
Over and out |
Are you sure I know you're Chairman of the Trust like but T2C seems to say otherwise?
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| John Moores on 17:58 - Nov 1 with 1039 views | 3swan |
| John Moores on 17:47 - Nov 1 by _ |
What he may come across like and what he actually is are two different things though, mate... The boys on the Trust are not expert in high finance and I'm sure they'd all admit that and I know they've spoken to equally as competent guys but I wouldn't want to rule out anyone capable enough of helping out, no matter how they are perceived on a football forum as.
The more the merrier because we're all on the right side of the fence over here... Let's keep it like that. |
I agree that the more comments the better, but I doubt that the Trust will only be looking within for advice. | | | |
| John Moores on 18:08 - Nov 1 with 997 views | Shaky |
| John Moores on 17:51 - Nov 1 by Phil_S |
Whatever you think Chris - you won't get to me like to get to the others on here
There is more than enough advice being sought - mainly from people whose opinion is that of a professional nature and who you can hold a discussion with without being patronised or looked down at with no clue as to others knowledge
I'm not sure Shaky has a fight in him - other than posts on an internet forum, I am not sure where you can draw that conclusion from
More than happy with the level of professional advice that we are getting at the moment - ironically lots of it from people that Shaky will tell you know nothing
Over and out |
Let me tell you something sport, the only people I patronise or look down on are those who pretend to be experts on that which they know nothing. That is to say your team, by all accounts.
Their retort is that I get everything I know from Google. And you believe that.
On that basis I find you gullible and lacking in judgment. That opinion is further based on what I have previously argued is your misguided strategy for the Trust.
Bottom line is I think you are a fool, and the fact is I don't work with fools so all this is moot.
The only positive is that some of your advisors are not always as stupid as they seem, and may be prepared to parse the runes, as it were. | |
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| John Moores on 18:10 - Nov 1 with 990 views | _ |
| John Moores on 17:58 - Nov 1 by 3swan |
I agree that the more comments the better, but I doubt that the Trust will only be looking within for advice. |
I agree they won't...and rightly so.
Everyone is so touchy on here lately and Phil is as bad as anyone.
I've got a lot of time for Shaky, he just tells it as it is. Some just can't can't deal with that but there you go.
And Phil, I'm not trying to get to you FFS, just because I've got a different viewpoint on someone and asking a genuine, serious question. You're the Chair of our Trust remember and I know it's a difficult time but this club goes as far back for us all... So I hope it's ok to carry on discussing matters without that sort of insinuation. Happy to take this to Facebook and no beef wanted | |
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| John Moores on 18:12 - Nov 1 with 974 views | Darran |
| John Moores on 18:10 - Nov 1 by _ |
I agree they won't...and rightly so.
Everyone is so touchy on here lately and Phil is as bad as anyone.
I've got a lot of time for Shaky, he just tells it as it is. Some just can't can't deal with that but there you go.
And Phil, I'm not trying to get to you FFS, just because I've got a different viewpoint on someone and asking a genuine, serious question. You're the Chair of our Trust remember and I know it's a difficult time but this club goes as far back for us all... So I hope it's ok to carry on discussing matters without that sort of insinuation. Happy to take this to Facebook and no beef wanted |
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| John Moores on 18:17 - Nov 1 with 962 views | 3swan |
| John Moores on 18:10 - Nov 1 by _ |
I agree they won't...and rightly so.
Everyone is so touchy on here lately and Phil is as bad as anyone.
I've got a lot of time for Shaky, he just tells it as it is. Some just can't can't deal with that but there you go.
And Phil, I'm not trying to get to you FFS, just because I've got a different viewpoint on someone and asking a genuine, serious question. You're the Chair of our Trust remember and I know it's a difficult time but this club goes as far back for us all... So I hope it's ok to carry on discussing matters without that sort of insinuation. Happy to take this to Facebook and no beef wanted |
"Everyone is so touchy"
Yes it's because of what the outcome might be. Phil can stand his own corner, but I would think that he knows more than he can say. Sometimes reading between the lines, or something that's not said says a lot.
I know nothing apart from what I've read on here, and I'm very very wary of the reasons behind any investment.
There will be more written on this so maybe it's better that we all read what's said and not how it's said.
Do I trust the shareholders not to take and run..................... don't know any personally or their circumstances, but those days will come, so we do need a strong Trust | | | |
| John Moores on 18:23 - Nov 1 with 938 views | _ |
| John Moores on 18:17 - Nov 1 by 3swan |
"Everyone is so touchy"
Yes it's because of what the outcome might be. Phil can stand his own corner, but I would think that he knows more than he can say. Sometimes reading between the lines, or something that's not said says a lot.
I know nothing apart from what I've read on here, and I'm very very wary of the reasons behind any investment.
There will be more written on this so maybe it's better that we all read what's said and not how it's said.
Do I trust the shareholders not to take and run..................... don't know any personally or their circumstances, but those days will come, so we do need a strong Trust |
I totally agree with everything you've said but more importantly the feeling behind the words.
I think it's coming to the time when perhaps more needs to come out though. This isn't going to go away is it...
And Darran, do yourself a favour little boy... Go away. | |
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| John Moores on 18:30 - Nov 1 with 920 views | 3swan |
| John Moores on 18:23 - Nov 1 by _ |
I totally agree with everything you've said but more importantly the feeling behind the words.
I think it's coming to the time when perhaps more needs to come out though. This isn't going to go away is it...
And Darran, do yourself a favour little boy... Go away. |
I'd love more to come out, but as with most things you don't show your full hand and have nothing in reserve.
I hope and honestly believe the Trust will be building up a case for or against what's going on and when the time comes we the fans get to know.
There does seem to be a drip drip coming from within the club, but then again I don't know who are behind the names on here anymore.
So for now I'll take everything in and see how it pans out. So far it's more negative than positive | | | |
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