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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. 14:27 - Nov 26 with 6711 viewsDavillin

You may believe this article or not about where this is all going, but the underlying facts it uses as support for that conclusion are irrefutable. p.s., I've been expecting this for several years. p.s. It's not at all good, and it's getting worse by the day.

p.s. The links in this article didn't copy, so if you want to read the source articles, go to the article at the link below
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Ferguson Riots, Immigration Reform Framing Coming Civil War Around Race
Old-Thinker News | November 25, 2014

By Daniel Taylor

Media focus on racial division diverting anger away from tyrannical government

Chaos has engulfed Ferguson, Missouri as the mainstream media is directing national attention to divisive racial issues at a time of rising tyranny in America.

Sensational revelations about government corruption are becoming a regular occurrence under the Obama administration. Ordinary Americans are being targeted while known terrorists are escorted through security. Kidnappers, rapists, and murderers are being released from prison; an action sanctioned by the President of the United States. The BATF allows guns to find their way to Mexican drug lords, while the federal government is fighting to disarm American citizens. Mega-banks launder billions of dollars worth of drug money.

Amidst this flurry of rampant corruption, Obamacare architect Johnathan Gruber admitted on video that “lack of transparency” was crucial in passing Obamacare and fool “stupid American voters” into accepting it.

Nearly every agency of government has acquired some form of armaments in the past several years. Police departments across the country are getting mine resistant vehicles. Homeland Security is acquiring billions of rounds of ammunition. The Department of Agriculture recently requested body armor as well as sub machine guns. Many other instruments of war have been stored and deployed.

A divided country

While the wealth of America is being systematically destroyed, divisive issues of race are being inflamed. Conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly called Obama’s recent executive order on Amnesty for illegal aliens a “Fort Sumter” event, referring to the defining event at the beginning of America’s first civil war. Obama’s announcement came on November 20th, the same day that Mexico’s Revolution day was celebrated.

At the same time, riots in Ferguson Missouri have attracted the attention of national media, threatening to spark riots in cities across the country. The announcement of the grand jury’s decision to absolve officer Darren Wilson was seemingly timed perfectly to incite riots after 8pm.

National Guard stood down in Ferguson on orders of the White House?

Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder told Fox News that, “Is the reason that the National Guard was not in there because the Obama Administration and the Holder Justice Department leaned on you to keep them out? I cannot imagine any other reason why the governor who mobilized the National Guard would not have them in there to stop this.”

The establishment is well aware that the country is growing increasingly skeptical of the federal government. Confidence in all branches of government are reaching record lows. According to Gallup, Congress has about a 7% approval rating; The presidency around 29% and the Supreme Court at 30%.

The establishment is attempting to direct the spirit of the nation into a destructive revolution of bloody conflagration and hate that will only result in more power for the elite.

If the nation is allowed to unify over issues of sound economic policy, purging government corruption, and re-affirming our moral code as a nation and as individuals, the corrupt elite will be brought to justice. As long as the country is divided this cannot happen. If the nation falls into chaos, these central unifying issues need to guide a real revolution of positive change that will rise from the ashes.

This generation, just as America’s founders did, will provide the heroes and legends for the next. Your actions and choices during this time will alter the outcome of this historical time period and set the cultural agenda for the next cycle. Its up to you.
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Originally published at:
http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2014/11/25/ferguson-riots-immigration-reform-frami

Reproduced at:
http://www.infowars.com/ferguson-riots-immigration-reform-framing-coming-civil-w
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:23 - Nov 26 with 1219 viewslondonlisa2001

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:03 - Nov 26 by Davillin

I'm a [small "c"] conservatives, and registered as a [lower case"i"] independent. For the first third of my voting and politically [very] active life, I was a registered Democrat. For my second third, I switched my registration to Republican when the Democrats took such a hard-left turn that I choked whenever I thought of it. This final third, I have no use for either party because as parties, they no longer exist in order to make the United States a better place, but to get re-elected and control the government. [That revulsion applies only to the parties, and not to the majority of rank and file members, who are still operating on a somewhat loftier plane.]

I reply to your post above because of my respect for you. There is no "apparent anomaly in the beliefs of [capital "R"] Republicans." None.

One can be either a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, or any other political party, and have some of -- or even many of -- the same beliefs as some -- many -- in every other party. That is a basic fact about U.S. political parties.

If you were over here, you'd hear endless statements like this one with any variety and mixture of terms: "I'm a fiscal conservative, a social progressive, and a political Libertarian, and a [pick one: "Democrat," "Republican," "Independent," etc.].

I truly hope that you will accept that as truth.

To your specific question, there are people in every U.S. political party, without exception, who are pro-ife, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-gay marriage, and on and on.

The reasons for being anti-same sex marriage or anti-abortion, are not derived from being a member of the Republican Party. They derive from religious sentiments, or social concerns, or inherent moral beliefs, which are, and have been for a long time, apolitical over here.

Regarding "other beliefs about the government not getting involved in what adults do (as long as it's not hurting anyone else," you'll find that that is a tenet of the Democratic party, if anyone.


thank you for that answer.

I think, on reflection, I was referring less to the people who are supporters of the Republican Party (who as you say may hold a wide range of views) and more to the 'official line' of the Party. As I said to Tummer, it is apparently the case (from the outside which may not be a fair reflection of the truth) that the Party itself has certain, almost unshakeable beliefs on certain issues, two of which appear to be same sex marriage and abortion.

These are views which again from the outside appear to be contradictory to their other views not least around the right to carry guns.

It would seem almost impossible for a republican candidate to hold views which support gay marriage for example, or indeed to be less than an active member of a Christian church. Over here, religion is, if anything, a turn off for any politician to mention and as I said earlier, no party would dare to state a view which could be deemed homophobic. I am not making a judgement, and I don't believe that the Republican / Democrat split is relevant to a Conservative / Labour split over here. As I said at the start, it was a genuine question as to why the republican party can't be seen to hold a differing view on these issues without being slaughtered for it.
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:23 - Nov 26 with 1218 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:20 - Nov 26 by Davillin

You have been slightly flippant and more forthright than I have been used to. I could add several other, and more generous, attributes that you used to exhibit.

I have no doubt that you "believe them to be true," but sadly, far too often, one’s predilections create one’s perceptions.


Yes, I agree that one's predilections do indeed create one's perceptions. This thread is living proof of that, from all points of view expressed.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:26 - Nov 26 with 1208 viewsacejack3065

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:20 - Nov 26 by Davillin

You have been slightly flippant and more forthright than I have been used to. I could add several other, and more generous, attributes that you used to exhibit.

I have no doubt that you "believe them to be true," but sadly, far too often, one’s predilections create one’s perceptions.


No disrespect Dav but that does cut both ways. It's a human characteristic and it often defines our personalities.
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:45 - Nov 26 with 1191 viewsTummer_from_Texas

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:23 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy

Yes, I agree that one's predilections do indeed create one's perceptions. This thread is living proof of that, from all points of view expressed.


The thing I'm getting out of this thread is the effect that the left wing bias in the media can have on one's perceptions about the USA.

This bias is almost universally accepted by both sides (even the left admits the media is mostly on its side, save Fox and talk radio), but it never really bothered me as an American, because I feel like other Americans can see through it and perceive things based on their own predilections, like you say.

However, in the case of the British and other non-Americans, if the media is the ONLY thing you have to base our political environment on, then it is actually much more damaging and creates ready and convenient stereotypes, I now realize.

And I'm saying this with a significant personal interest in the matter. My sister is a fairly noteworthy writer for the Washington Post (Karen Tumulty). I take a lot of pride in her work, and the fact that she gets an equal amount of hate mail from both sides. Wish there were more like her on the national scene.
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:52 - Nov 26 with 1174 viewsPacemaker

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:45 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas

The thing I'm getting out of this thread is the effect that the left wing bias in the media can have on one's perceptions about the USA.

This bias is almost universally accepted by both sides (even the left admits the media is mostly on its side, save Fox and talk radio), but it never really bothered me as an American, because I feel like other Americans can see through it and perceive things based on their own predilections, like you say.

However, in the case of the British and other non-Americans, if the media is the ONLY thing you have to base our political environment on, then it is actually much more damaging and creates ready and convenient stereotypes, I now realize.

And I'm saying this with a significant personal interest in the matter. My sister is a fairly noteworthy writer for the Washington Post (Karen Tumulty). I take a lot of pride in her work, and the fact that she gets an equal amount of hate mail from both sides. Wish there were more like her on the national scene.
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My brother has lived in the US for about 20 years first in CA and more recently in the Houston area.(Woodlands)

He thinks my views of politics in the States are way wide of the mark and most Europeans know next to nothing of what goes on within the US political arena. Is this because of the way the media reports things or because the way we interpret what we see and read?

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 23:45 - Nov 26 with 1135 viewslondonlisa2001

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:45 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas

The thing I'm getting out of this thread is the effect that the left wing bias in the media can have on one's perceptions about the USA.

This bias is almost universally accepted by both sides (even the left admits the media is mostly on its side, save Fox and talk radio), but it never really bothered me as an American, because I feel like other Americans can see through it and perceive things based on their own predilections, like you say.

However, in the case of the British and other non-Americans, if the media is the ONLY thing you have to base our political environment on, then it is actually much more damaging and creates ready and convenient stereotypes, I now realize.

And I'm saying this with a significant personal interest in the matter. My sister is a fairly noteworthy writer for the Washington Post (Karen Tumulty). I take a lot of pride in her work, and the fact that she gets an equal amount of hate mail from both sides. Wish there were more like her on the national scene.
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But we in the UK are not getting our view from your media, we get it from our media.

Our media is pretty split. The BBC is fairly left wing politically (although on the face of it they have no political bias one was or another), Sky news is right wing (with of course shared ownership to Fox) although it is not right wing in the way Fox is.

The majority of the popular press here is right wing rather than left, with the most popular newspapers (The Sun and The Mail) both being very right wing (as is the Times) with the Mirror supposedly being left wing (as is the Guardian and the Observer).

One of the things that I think you should bear in mind though, is that we would tend (not always the case as you'll see on this board) to be more generally left wing and tolerant in the UK, certainly on social issues, than would be the case (again in general) in the US, so we have a different starting point.

Dav described me as unkind in my assessment of Michele Bachmann earlier. Now this may be the case, but her views would be regarded as so extreme by the ordinary population over here as to genuinely be laughable. The religious right also tends to be regarded here as nut cases - members of the political classes that spoke of things like teaching creation over evolution etc would simply get laughed at, and when we have the odd politician (generally members of UKIP) that start talking about God's vengeance causing floods / earthquakes and so on (we had one relatively recently that blamed gay marriage for flooding) the media on every single side, right or left, simply take the p*ss out of them, as does the population at large.
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 01:18 - Nov 27 with 1109 viewsDavillin

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:26 - Nov 26 by acejack3065

No disrespect Dav but that does cut both ways. It's a human characteristic and it often defines our personalities.


Thanks. I thought I was clear in saying that it applies to everyone.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 01:23 - Nov 27 with 1106 viewsDavillin

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:45 - Nov 26 by Tummer_from_Texas

The thing I'm getting out of this thread is the effect that the left wing bias in the media can have on one's perceptions about the USA.

This bias is almost universally accepted by both sides (even the left admits the media is mostly on its side, save Fox and talk radio), but it never really bothered me as an American, because I feel like other Americans can see through it and perceive things based on their own predilections, like you say.

However, in the case of the British and other non-Americans, if the media is the ONLY thing you have to base our political environment on, then it is actually much more damaging and creates ready and convenient stereotypes, I now realize.

And I'm saying this with a significant personal interest in the matter. My sister is a fairly noteworthy writer for the Washington Post (Karen Tumulty). I take a lot of pride in her work, and the fact that she gets an equal amount of hate mail from both sides. Wish there were more like her on the national scene.
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With the exception of your fourth paragraph, I've been trying to convince my British friends of exactly what you wrote. It's so uncanny in its similarity of form and language to mine that now people are going to think I'm posting as you.

Sadly, Tex, you'll have no more success in getting that point across than I had. Just the few posts after yours, above, will demonstrate that. p.s. I tried. I failed. I quit trying long ago.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 01:48 - Nov 27 with 1099 viewsTummer_from_Texas

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:52 - Nov 26 by Pacemaker

My brother has lived in the US for about 20 years first in CA and more recently in the Houston area.(Woodlands)

He thinks my views of politics in the States are way wide of the mark and most Europeans know next to nothing of what goes on within the US political arena. Is this because of the way the media reports things or because the way we interpret what we see and read?


I just think it's the quantity of the coverage. For instance the story I linked about the student harassed for wearing a Romney shirt during the last election. Had the tables been turned and she was harassed for wearing an Obama shirt, I believe the press would have jumped all over and discussed it ad nauseum.

Is your brother in the Woodlands a Swans supporter?

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 01:52 - Nov 27 with 1097 viewsTummer_from_Texas

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 23:45 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001

But we in the UK are not getting our view from your media, we get it from our media.

Our media is pretty split. The BBC is fairly left wing politically (although on the face of it they have no political bias one was or another), Sky news is right wing (with of course shared ownership to Fox) although it is not right wing in the way Fox is.

The majority of the popular press here is right wing rather than left, with the most popular newspapers (The Sun and The Mail) both being very right wing (as is the Times) with the Mirror supposedly being left wing (as is the Guardian and the Observer).

One of the things that I think you should bear in mind though, is that we would tend (not always the case as you'll see on this board) to be more generally left wing and tolerant in the UK, certainly on social issues, than would be the case (again in general) in the US, so we have a different starting point.

Dav described me as unkind in my assessment of Michele Bachmann earlier. Now this may be the case, but her views would be regarded as so extreme by the ordinary population over here as to genuinely be laughable. The religious right also tends to be regarded here as nut cases - members of the political classes that spoke of things like teaching creation over evolution etc would simply get laughed at, and when we have the odd politician (generally members of UKIP) that start talking about God's vengeance causing floods / earthquakes and so on (we had one relatively recently that blamed gay marriage for flooding) the media on every single side, right or left, simply take the p*ss out of them, as does the population at large.


Unkind to Bachmann? Pffft.

Hell, y'all come across relatively polite and warm to me even in your most extreme fits of rage!

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 02:09 - Nov 27 with 1094 viewsDavillin

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 22:52 - Nov 26 by Pacemaker

My brother has lived in the US for about 20 years first in CA and more recently in the Houston area.(Woodlands)

He thinks my views of politics in the States are way wide of the mark and most Europeans know next to nothing of what goes on within the US political arena. Is this because of the way the media reports things or because the way we interpret what we see and read?


Your brother is right. I hope you have more faith in what he says about this than your fellows do about what I or Tex say.

I have been faithfully following the news from the U.K. since the 1960s, when I used to go to my university library almost every day to read the Manchester Guardian, printed on that yellowish tissue-like paper, held on that slotted stick that libraries used to use before the internet. The text was sent over by telegraph and printed in New York (I think) daily.

Since I have had the internet, I keep four British newspapers on my "favourites" menu bar [used to be 5, but I dropped The Times when they went rogue and wanted me to register].

I read selected articles on these online newspapers every day that I'm online: BBC Online, The Telegraph, The Independent and The Guardian. I sometimes read SWEP online. I use newsnow.co.uk several times a day.

Every day I also read articles in quite a number of U.S. online newspapers and journals. As Tex wrote, the so-called U.S. "mainstream" media are all 100% in the tank for Obama and his liberal/progressive associates inside and outside the government. They very often ignore major stories, or give them one or two lines, usually buried a few days later deep in the newspaper, whenever a story doesn't fit their bias.

I'm telling you this because I want it clear that I understand very well the full flavour, content, and bias displayed by all of them in both countries, and that you in the UK get news feeds of only one side of any story, with one exception -- perfectly exemplified by Lisa's post about Michele Bachmann -- and that is to lampoon conservatives and any group containing conservatives. Mocking works depressingly well, but only when the truth is absent.

As Tex pointed out -- and your brother, too -- you may say this any way you will, but you do not get accuracy or truth about most even mildly controversial aspect of U.S. life.

And sadly, your media has you mimicking their mocking of Fox News -- the only major U.S. television outlet that reports everything whether they like it or not, and presents opposing views on every significant news story.

I now fully expect someone to post to say that they have watched Fox, and then to mock it. Fine. But they've already adopted that viewpoint and because of your media coverage, they are not in a position to learn otherwise. I am sometimes unable to avoid Americans even in my own home town who do exactly the same thing, believing what the liberal/progressive media tell them about Fox. That's fine, too.

p.s. I do not agree with some of the Fox comentators' opinions some of the time, but their "straight news" programs are far more objective and thorough.

I don't expect to be around when the whole tragicomedy ends with a farcical final scene showing chaos and disenlightenment all over the stage. Darn it to have lived all this time only to miss the crashing, blood-soaked, hysterical denouement.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 02:23 - Nov 27 with 1086 viewsDavillin

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 23:45 - Nov 26 by londonlisa2001

But we in the UK are not getting our view from your media, we get it from our media.

Our media is pretty split. The BBC is fairly left wing politically (although on the face of it they have no political bias one was or another), Sky news is right wing (with of course shared ownership to Fox) although it is not right wing in the way Fox is.

The majority of the popular press here is right wing rather than left, with the most popular newspapers (The Sun and The Mail) both being very right wing (as is the Times) with the Mirror supposedly being left wing (as is the Guardian and the Observer).

One of the things that I think you should bear in mind though, is that we would tend (not always the case as you'll see on this board) to be more generally left wing and tolerant in the UK, certainly on social issues, than would be the case (again in general) in the US, so we have a different starting point.

Dav described me as unkind in my assessment of Michele Bachmann earlier. Now this may be the case, but her views would be regarded as so extreme by the ordinary population over here as to genuinely be laughable. The religious right also tends to be regarded here as nut cases - members of the political classes that spoke of things like teaching creation over evolution etc would simply get laughed at, and when we have the odd politician (generally members of UKIP) that start talking about God's vengeance causing floods / earthquakes and so on (we had one relatively recently that blamed gay marriage for flooding) the media on every single side, right or left, simply take the p*ss out of them, as does the population at large.


Your first sentence, "But we in the UK are not getting our view from your media, we get it from our media" explains it all.

And where do your media get their stories about the U.S.? From media feeds from the U.S., or directly from the U.S. media.

If you had access to unbiased news about the U.S., you'd know that the overwhelming majority of Americans are almost unbearably tolerant. But that's not the "American" you get from our media through your media.

You might reconsider "so extreme," "genuinely laughable," and "nut cases." Please don't ask me to amplify that. I prefer being tolerant to being candid on this one.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 02:54 - Nov 27 with 1073 viewsDavillin

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:03 - Nov 26 by Pacemaker

The treatment of minorities in the US will be something the majority of white people will soon become acutely aware of.

I certainly believe that within my lifetime the majority of citizens in the US will be non white. I would assume that decision makers will eventually reflect that of the general population and the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown I suspect.

Whether that is equal rights and opportunities or something else, I suppose we will all have to wait and see.


I'm 78 years old. I have lived through "the treatment of minorities" from when it was bad to when it became -- and continues to be -- equality for those who choose to accept the benefits of equality along with the responsibilities.

If by your first sentence, you're suggesting that it is still as bad as I knew it 60 years ago, you're wrong.

What is true is that a very large percentage have accepted equality with responsibility, while another sadly large percentage have not. And worse, a very tiny minority stir the racial pot for their own ends -- always self-centered.

You appear to fail to understand that if "the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown" -- and justly -- he will be thanked. I can't give you a historical summary of all of the things the White Man of European descent has done to the great benefit of Blacks. It would take too long. Start with the American Civil War and the blood shed by White Men of European descent, of Abraham Lincoln and his Republican Party, and of the thousands of clergy and politicians and intellectuals before, during, and after the Civil War.

Presidents in my lifetime who would head the list of those White Men would start with Harry Truman, and go on to John Kennedy, Lydon Johnson, Ronald Reagan, and both Bush presidents.

Regarding your last sentence, Blacks now have equal rights and opportunities,, both in full [and please remember that I have lived through and personally experienced the transition from repression to freedom]. As I wrote elsewhere in this thread, equal rights and equal opportunities are available to anyone who will accept them along with the responsibilities that go with them. And I fully understand that the rabble-rousers blame Whites for the ones who do not accept the one or the other.

But if you want to focus on the evil without noting how that evil was replaced with good, then you'll reach your conclusion.

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 07:00 - Nov 27 with 1054 viewsPacemaker

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 01:48 - Nov 27 by Tummer_from_Texas

I just think it's the quantity of the coverage. For instance the story I linked about the student harassed for wearing a Romney shirt during the last election. Had the tables been turned and she was harassed for wearing an Obama shirt, I believe the press would have jumped all over and discussed it ad nauseum.

Is your brother in the Woodlands a Swans supporter?


He is more of a rugby man so thinks it's ok to support all Welsh clubs😄. I was out there in Easter 2010 for my nieces wedding and he had some Cardiff supporting friends out there as well when we lost 2-1 to Cardiff. It was not a great place to be!

However in a true Machiavellian style I have bombarded my two great nephews and my nieces husband with Swans merchandise! So if you are in that area you may see some Swans shirts!

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 07:22 - Nov 27 with 1048 viewsPacemaker

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 02:54 - Nov 27 by Davillin

I'm 78 years old. I have lived through "the treatment of minorities" from when it was bad to when it became -- and continues to be -- equality for those who choose to accept the benefits of equality along with the responsibilities.

If by your first sentence, you're suggesting that it is still as bad as I knew it 60 years ago, you're wrong.

What is true is that a very large percentage have accepted equality with responsibility, while another sadly large percentage have not. And worse, a very tiny minority stir the racial pot for their own ends -- always self-centered.

You appear to fail to understand that if "the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown" -- and justly -- he will be thanked. I can't give you a historical summary of all of the things the White Man of European descent has done to the great benefit of Blacks. It would take too long. Start with the American Civil War and the blood shed by White Men of European descent, of Abraham Lincoln and his Republican Party, and of the thousands of clergy and politicians and intellectuals before, during, and after the Civil War.

Presidents in my lifetime who would head the list of those White Men would start with Harry Truman, and go on to John Kennedy, Lydon Johnson, Ronald Reagan, and both Bush presidents.

Regarding your last sentence, Blacks now have equal rights and opportunities,, both in full [and please remember that I have lived through and personally experienced the transition from repression to freedom]. As I wrote elsewhere in this thread, equal rights and equal opportunities are available to anyone who will accept them along with the responsibilities that go with them. And I fully understand that the rabble-rousers blame Whites for the ones who do not accept the one or the other.

But if you want to focus on the evil without noting how that evil was replaced with good, then you'll reach your conclusion.


My first statement suggests that within a short period of time people of black and Hispanic background will form the majority and nothing more than that.

However I presume that over a much longer period of time the decision makers will also reflect that.

If those decision makers act in a fair and just way then democracy has worked I suppose and the "white man will reap what he has sown" but I believe that it is more likely to be the start of the next revolution for the States. There are far too many on the far right and left of politics and the media to accept change of that magnitude and a split along the lines of the Union Confederate map with CA being on its own (But still bankrupt), would be the result.

The rise and fall of the USA?

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 08:08 - Nov 27 with 1040 viewsLord_Bony

What will really spark off revolution in America,I have long predicted wil be ..

THE COLLAPSE OF THE DOLLAR.

This will be the real test wether government agencies will fire weapons against American people.

The day it collapses on the stock exchange will be catastrophic.soon after street riots will start on epic scales as money becomes unavailable.it will be a time of Marshall law and F.E.M.A. Camps.

They know what's coming down the pipe.why do you think Obama has spen billions arming agencies like Homeland Security and The Feds while imposing draconian gun laws to take guns off ordinary citizens?



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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 09:54 - Nov 27 with 1016 viewsWarwickHunt

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 08:08 - Nov 27 by Lord_Bony

What will really spark off revolution in America,I have long predicted wil be ..

THE COLLAPSE OF THE DOLLAR.

This will be the real test wether government agencies will fire weapons against American people.

The day it collapses on the stock exchange will be catastrophic.soon after street riots will start on epic scales as money becomes unavailable.it will be a time of Marshall law and F.E.M.A. Camps.

They know what's coming down the pipe.why do you think Obama has spen billions arming agencies like Homeland Security and The Feds while imposing draconian gun laws to take guns off ordinary citizens?




Do you have two tinfoil hats - one for best?
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:05 - Nov 27 with 1003 viewsperchrockjack

Im so glad I stayed out of this one.

I simply cannot understand why America is seen as worthy of contempt or ridicule.

Its not as if, given our colonial past, we have anything like the higher moral ground.

No matter what shuite, or platitudes are posted on here, deep down your average still suffers from xenophobia and racism some believing clearly that we civilised half the Globe.

What we are good at ,in this island, is hypocrisy and cant ; its just a case of scratching away the veneer of political and social chicanery.

Don't be misled American chums; we re in no position to pontificate

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:21 - Nov 27 with 989 viewsLord_Bony

So how is predicting a collapse of the dollar tin foil hat or racist?


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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:29 - Nov 27 with 983 viewsWarwickHunt

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:21 - Nov 27 by Lord_Bony

So how is predicting a collapse of the dollar tin foil hat or racist?



Just to clarify - does the collapse of the dollar happen before or after WWIII?
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:35 - Nov 27 with 978 viewsLord_Bony

Hey bud

I m just putting something into the mix here for people to mull over while they eat their cornflakes..

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 10:42 - Nov 27 with 967 viewsperchrockjack

I m just hoping the cereal offered to us this weekend in Swansea isn't own brand crap..
Serious question,, is there a Patisserie Valerie in Swansea or are there just Greggs around

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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 11:20 - Nov 27 with 946 viewsCatullus

So, the establishment in America are pushing hard to force a revolution so they can grab even more power and grind the ordinary person into the dust.

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is the gist of this, yes?

The establishment have an agenda, they always do and always will. But trying to foment revolution!!
How many of the elite (through history) have survived to keep power, in a succesful revolution?
Of course, if the revolution is a faliure, then they could grab even more of the pie. But there are so many guns in the U.S. and so many para military organisations. Not forgetting the army/national guard and police.
Can the establishment be so sure the armed forces would support them and fire on the public?
And what if it was a peaceful revolution? They can happen, theoretically!

People keep saying a revolution is coming over here. But generally speaking, even though we claim to be so hard done by, most people have got it too easy to rock the boat that much.
The thought of a world where money has ceased to be of worth, where power is held (in individual countries, regions or even towns) by several people who all want more (precipitating ongoing conflict) and where the food supply has stopped, in all probability so would the gas, electric and water. That is enough to keep most people in their places.
IN places like Libya, Syria, Palestine etc, life is a far cry from what we have in the west. And just what would all those who survive on benefits do if the government collapsed?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 12:22 - Nov 27 with 915 viewsNeiltheTaylor

The Coming Revolution in the U.S. on 20:03 - Nov 26 by Pacemaker

The treatment of minorities in the US will be something the majority of white people will soon become acutely aware of.

I certainly believe that within my lifetime the majority of citizens in the US will be non white. I would assume that decision makers will eventually reflect that of the general population and the White Man of European descent will reap what he has sown I suspect.

Whether that is equal rights and opportunities or something else, I suppose we will all have to wait and see.


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The2econdComing Revolution in the U.S. on 13:27 - Nov 27 with 885 views_

Dav,

Respectfully.....

You've got the title wrong!!

The2econdComing Revolution in the U.S.

(Corrected)

You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
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