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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread 06:22 - Sep 17 with 82311 viewsSwansNZ

Will anyone beat the All Blacks? NO
Will Wales get out of the group? YES
Does anyone care? Quite a few.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:41 - Oct 17 with 1019 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:37 - Oct 17 by monmouth

which is just about exactly what I said.


Then I am glad you agree with me.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:42 - Oct 17 with 1020 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:33 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

The issues would be game specific. For example.

Why did Cuthbert come in to try to take the number 8 out? If he was commited to the tackle he should have been 100% sure of it.

The tackle was too risky. He should have left the number 8 for the inside players, in this case the scrum half as the scrum had wheeled thus making the blindside flanker useless (he was being held onto anyway just befor the scrum broke).

Mentally for that split second Cuthbert fked up and it cost us. There was other moments in the match too.

Get rid of all those mistakes and your chances of winning are increased.


Yeah sure, if individal errors only weren't made. Cuthbert would not have been near todays team had we any options, barring a nonsense selection. But luck today ghad far more of an influence than cuthbert.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:44 - Oct 17 with 1013 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:42 - Oct 17 by monmouth

Yeah sure, if individal errors only weren't made. Cuthbert would not have been near todays team had we any options, barring a nonsense selection. But luck today ghad far more of an influence than cuthbert.


Nonsense.

It wasn't that we were unlucky when we had a couple of opportunities for a second drop goal in the second half. They had one oportunity and took it. That's the mental difference.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:44 - Oct 17 with 1009 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:44 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

Nonsense.

It wasn't that we were unlucky when we had a couple of opportunities for a second drop goal in the second half. They had one oportunity and took it. That's the mental difference.


My arse.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:45 - Oct 17 with 1005 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:44 - Oct 17 by monmouth

My arse.


Yep. Your arse.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:48 - Oct 17 with 993 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:45 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

Yep. Your arse.


absolutely

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:50 - Oct 17 with 988 viewsraynor94

George North, watch Savea tonight, it's clinical, hence Wales are out

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:53 - Oct 17 with 982 viewsWarwickHunt

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 19:55 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

Surely we can't always be unlucky? That's a dreadful mentality to have. Front up and address the issues.


We're not always unlucky - sometimes the ref fûcks us up.

It's coz we is Welsh, innit...
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:55 - Oct 17 with 975 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:53 - Oct 17 by WarwickHunt

We're not always unlucky - sometimes the ref fûcks us up.

It's coz we is Welsh, innit...


Sometimes the other team is a little bit better too, but it's not mutually exclusive withthe other elements.

Edit. That was an eminently winnable game today, but losing it hadf*ck all to do with the 'mental strength' bollux.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:59 - Oct 17 with 965 viewslifelong

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:50 - Oct 17 by raynor94

George North, watch Savea tonight, it's clinical, hence Wales are out


I was thinking the same, although our backs are fit and strong they just seem to be too predictable, too much crash ball and too little flair, that's just my rugby uneducated take on it.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:01 - Oct 17 with 956 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:59 - Oct 17 by lifelong

I was thinking the same, although our backs are fit and strong they just seem to be too predictable, too much crash ball and too little flair, that's just my rugby uneducated take on it.


Nope, that is spot on. Howley needs punting.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:01 - Oct 17 with 955 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:55 - Oct 17 by monmouth

Sometimes the other team is a little bit better too, but it's not mutually exclusive withthe other elements.

Edit. That was an eminently winnable game today, but losing it hadf*ck all to do with the 'mental strength' bollux.
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Where did we lose it today then?

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:05 - Oct 17 with 944 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:01 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

Where did we lose it today then?


In the marginal calls and bounces. Should have been 10 points up at half time with a bit of luck and nothing to do with the 'mental strenth' sh1te. Both the pens that went to SA for 6-0 could easily have gone the other way and I reckon certainly should have.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:06 - Oct 17 with 942 viewsdickythorpe

Tight head prop vacancy needs filling for Wales's scrum.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:09 - Oct 17 with 936 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:06 - Oct 17 by dickythorpe

Tight head prop vacancy needs filling for Wales's scrum.


A fit and functional Samson will be fine. We need a proper bench option though.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:15 - Oct 17 with 927 viewsWarwickHunt

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:55 - Oct 17 by monmouth

Sometimes the other team is a little bit better too, but it's not mutually exclusive withthe other elements.

Edit. That was an eminently winnable game today, but losing it hadf*ck all to do with the 'mental strength' bollux.
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Yeah - I was being ironic...

We fücked it up. Only ourselves to blame.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 with 921 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:05 - Oct 17 by monmouth

In the marginal calls and bounces. Should have been 10 points up at half time with a bit of luck and nothing to do with the 'mental strenth' sh1te. Both the pens that went to SA for 6-0 could easily have gone the other way and I reckon certainly should have.


I see. It was the refs fault we lost.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 with 921 viewsSwansNZ

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 20:44 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

Nonsense.

It wasn't that we were unlucky when we had a couple of opportunities for a second drop goal in the second half. They had one oportunity and took it. That's the mental difference.


Overall we showed great mental strength, but as you said, one lapse by Cuthbet cost us. The scrum-half and the back row cover the inside runner, the wing, stay the bloody hell out there.

Don't agree with the drop goal, as it's risky. We needed to show more composure and retain the ball, to give our defence a rest. Apply a bit of pressure on SA.

The game could have gone either way, and with our injuries, we gave it our best shot, which was not quite good enough.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:23 - Oct 17 with 912 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 by SwansNZ

Overall we showed great mental strength, but as you said, one lapse by Cuthbet cost us. The scrum-half and the back row cover the inside runner, the wing, stay the bloody hell out there.

Don't agree with the drop goal, as it's risky. We needed to show more composure and retain the ball, to give our defence a rest. Apply a bit of pressure on SA.

The game could have gone either way, and with our injuries, we gave it our best shot, which was not quite good enough.


Drop goal was more of an option than continually pummelling their line as we did against Australia. We had already scroed one so knew Biggar was on form for it. We had several opportunites to move the phase play in field to make it easier for the kick. It was the option for points in such a close game. As they proved.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:25 - Oct 17 with 909 viewsWarwickHunt

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

I see. It was the refs fault we lost.


Thank fück we're not playing NZ - the ref would crucify us.
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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:26 - Oct 17 with 907 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 by Jackfath

I see. It was the refs fault we lost.


Really? you're not usually full of such paucity of argument. Maybe you just want to read it again? On another day we coud have lost, we could have won. The margins are, well marginal. But to claim mental weakness is utter bilge.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:28 - Oct 17 with 902 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:20 - Oct 17 by SwansNZ

Overall we showed great mental strength, but as you said, one lapse by Cuthbet cost us. The scrum-half and the back row cover the inside runner, the wing, stay the bloody hell out there.

Don't agree with the drop goal, as it's risky. We needed to show more composure and retain the ball, to give our defence a rest. Apply a bit of pressure on SA.

The game could have gone either way, and with our injuries, we gave it our best shot, which was not quite good enough.


This

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:28 - Oct 17 with 900 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:26 - Oct 17 by monmouth

Really? you're not usually full of such paucity of argument. Maybe you just want to read it again? On another day we coud have lost, we could have won. The margins are, well marginal. But to claim mental weakness is utter bilge.


You keep on repeating that point. I'ts registered. You are now blaming the referee who could have given us a penalty instead of them.

That's utter bilge and not addressing the real issues.

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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:29 - Oct 17 with 896 viewsJackfath

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:01 - Oct 17 by monmouth

Nope, that is spot on. Howley needs punting.


It's Howleys fault too.


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The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:30 - Oct 17 with 895 viewsmonmouth

The Official Rugby World Cup Thread on 21:25 - Oct 17 by WarwickHunt

Thank fück we're not playing NZ - the ref would crucify us.


Genuine laugh.

But yeah, thank f*ck we're out.

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