| Brexit might never happen on 13:00 - Jul 22 with 926 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 12:37 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
They've got a load of legal shyte to comb through before they start it I'd imagine. Which is probably why the new ministry of brexit was created.
But to suggest it won't happen at all is clearly delusional. |
There is nothing to stop Theresa Thatcher invoking article 50 straight away and setting the 2 year clock ticking.
She hasn't, because she doesn't really want to.
They will find the longest grass they can and keep.kicking it into it.
We may well end up with eu membership in virtually everything but name. |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:06 - Jul 22 with 922 views | monmouth |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:00 - Jul 22 by sherpajacob |
There is nothing to stop Theresa Thatcher invoking article 50 straight away and setting the 2 year clock ticking.
She hasn't, because she doesn't really want to.
They will find the longest grass they can and keep.kicking it into it.
We may well end up with eu membership in virtually everything but name. |
and no veto. |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:06 - Jul 22 with 921 views | LeonisGod |
| Brexit might never happen on 12:37 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
They've got a load of legal shyte to comb through before they start it I'd imagine. Which is probably why the new ministry of brexit was created.
But to suggest it won't happen at all is clearly delusional. |
Yep, loads of legal shyte. Starting with the High Court hearing over whether the government can invoke Article 50 without a vote in Parliament. However that goes it could end up going to appeal in early 2017. And some commentators are saying that because of the importance of the decision it could end up going to the Supreme European Court. Still, the lawyers will do alright of of it all.
There are months to run on this before we get any closer to starting the process to withdraw. It's going to make one of Huw's signings look like a snap decision. |  | | |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:17 - Jul 22 with 909 views | Lord_Bony |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:06 - Jul 22 by LeonisGod |
Yep, loads of legal shyte. Starting with the High Court hearing over whether the government can invoke Article 50 without a vote in Parliament. However that goes it could end up going to appeal in early 2017. And some commentators are saying that because of the importance of the decision it could end up going to the Supreme European Court. Still, the lawyers will do alright of of it all.
There are months to run on this before we get any closer to starting the process to withdraw. It's going to make one of Huw's signings look like a snap decision. |
It would be an unbelievable travesty of justice if this has to now be decided by the High Court.
The British people have spoken, that should be enough. I really dont think the court has the jurisdiction to decide a constitutional issue like this.
If it does then we re fecked as a democracy. |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:27 - Jul 22 with 888 views | Highjack |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:17 - Jul 22 by Lord_Bony |
It would be an unbelievable travesty of justice if this has to now be decided by the High Court.
The British people have spoken, that should be enough. I really dont think the court has the jurisdiction to decide a constitutional issue like this.
If it does then we re fecked as a democracy. |
Can you imagine the backlash if the European court stops it? |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:34 - Jul 22 with 881 views | dailew |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:27 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
Can you imagine the backlash if the European court stops it? |
Hardly any.
The stupid old racists who voted out are hardly going to riot.
If they do just point a huge electromagnet at them to take their walking sticks and
Zimmer frames away and they are firked. |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:36 - Jul 22 with 878 views | Highjack |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:34 - Jul 22 by dailew |
Hardly any.
The stupid old racists who voted out are hardly going to riot.
If they do just point a huge electromagnet at them to take their walking sticks and
Zimmer frames away and they are firked. |
I was suggesting more the constitutional backlash, rather than actual rioting. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:39 - Jul 22 with 872 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:17 - Jul 22 by Lord_Bony |
It would be an unbelievable travesty of justice if this has to now be decided by the High Court.
The British people have spoken, that should be enough. I really dont think the court has the jurisdiction to decide a constitutional issue like this.
If it does then we re fecked as a democracy. |
The decision must be taken by our sovereign parliament.
For a prime minister to invoke article 50, based on a legally non binding referendum, without a parliamentary vote, would be a betrayal of our democratic system.
Would be an interesting debate and vote, how should MP's who believe in remain but whose constituents voted leave, and vice versa, vote?. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:41 - Jul 22 with 867 views | BarrySwan |
| Brexit might never happen on 22:30 - Jul 21 by ItchySphincter |
I voted remain but that's not to say that I don't think there's plenty wrong with the EU. I just didn't buy in to the phony racist bullshit that the Brexit campaign was peddling. If I had have done I'd be soooo embarrassed. |
You mean like
World war 3, plunging house prices, devastating stock market crash,isolated with no one wishing to trade with us . IMF warning of recession and no growth ( now within weeks saying the UK will have the 2nd highest growth in the G7) German finance minister claiming that that he only warned of British meltdown because Osborne asked him to etc etc etc.
That sort of phoney racist bullshit you mean? [Post edited 22 Jul 2016 13:41]
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:49 - Jul 22 with 850 views | dailew |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:36 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
I was suggesting more the constitutional backlash, rather than actual rioting. |
Not so sure.
A lot of the people who voted out will have died in a couple of years so there'll be a majority of people wanting to stay in. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 13:51 - Jul 22 with 846 views | Highjack |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:39 - Jul 22 by sherpajacob |
The decision must be taken by our sovereign parliament.
For a prime minister to invoke article 50, based on a legally non binding referendum, without a parliamentary vote, would be a betrayal of our democratic system.
Would be an interesting debate and vote, how should MP's who believe in remain but whose constituents voted leave, and vice versa, vote?. |
It would be interesting but completely uneccessary.
The right to invoke article 50 is the PM's and Cabinets.
The people have spoken. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:04 - Jul 22 with 836 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:51 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
It would be interesting but completely uneccessary.
The right to invoke article 50 is the PM's and Cabinets.
The people have spoken. |
Parliament as a whole must take precedence over the PM and cabinet on constitutional matters.
Otherwise we have a dictatorship. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:17 - Jul 22 with 830 views | WarwickHunt |
| Brexit might never happen on 13:51 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
It would be interesting but completely uneccessary.
The right to invoke article 50 is the PM's and Cabinets.
The people have spoken. |
It's advisory only.
"The people" are f*cking stupid. F*ck 'em.
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:22 - Jul 22 with 819 views | ItchySphincter |
| Brexit might never happen on 09:07 - Jul 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
Yet you assume everyone who voted for Brexit actuallly believed the immigration statements and £350million a week to the NHS. I voted out because of those very things wrong with the EU.The difference between me and you was that I've got the courage of my convictions and didn't care if c*nts called me racist because that couldn't be further from the truth.
It's good that you have admitted the whole remain argument/tactic was to brand people racist and hide all of the proper arguments. The remainers used that emotional blackmail because they knew there was plenty wrong with the EU but chose to hide away from those issues and not discuss them.
And, for the record any campaign funded directy by JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, two of the most powerful entities and misery bringers on the planet (in the comments of that article JPM was fined 2.5 billion US $ for fraud) I'm naturally going to back the other side regardless! |
You've changed Brynny.  |  |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:25 - Jul 22 with 808 views | Highjack |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:04 - Jul 22 by sherpajacob |
Parliament as a whole must take precedence over the PM and cabinet on constitutional matters.
Otherwise we have a dictatorship. |
And the will of the people must take precedence over Parliament.
Otherwise we have a dictatorship. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:27 - Jul 22 with 722 views | ItchySphincter |
| Brexit might never happen on 11:16 - Jul 22 by exiledclaseboy |
She's already indicated that the process won't start until at least next year. Despite the way i voted I firmly believe that we should now leave the EU. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't. |
Me too, but apparently I don't have the courage of my convictions because I chose to vote a different way to someone who has already admitted they voted on preconceived assumptions. There is genuinely a case to be made for some people not being allowed to vote. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:31 - Jul 22 with 708 views | Lord_Bony |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:17 - Jul 22 by WarwickHunt |
It's advisory only.
"The people" are f*cking stupid. F*ck 'em.
#londonelitist |
So if the referendum we ve just had is only advisory and non binding,then a simple question...
Wtf was the point of it all then?
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:33 - Jul 22 with 702 views | WarwickHunt |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:31 - Jul 22 by Lord_Bony |
So if the referendum we ve just had is only advisory and non binding,then a simple question...
Wtf was the point of it all then?
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For Cameron to shut his Tory party rebels up.
The massive tw@t. | | | |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:33 - Jul 22 with 702 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:25 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
And the will of the people must take precedence over Parliament.
Otherwise we have a dictatorship. |
That's not how our sovereign parliamentary democracy works.
Parliament is sovereign,
If it's left to the PM we have dictatorship
If its left to the will of the people we have mob rule. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:34 - Jul 22 with 698 views | Highjack |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:33 - Jul 22 by sherpajacob |
That's not how our sovereign parliamentary democracy works.
Parliament is sovereign,
If it's left to the PM we have dictatorship
If its left to the will of the people we have mob rule. |
Lets do in with elections altogether then. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:36 - Jul 22 with 695 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:33 - Jul 22 by WarwickHunt |
For Cameron to shut his Tory party rebels up.
The massive tw@t. |
Nail hit firmly on head | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:36 - Jul 22 with 691 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:25 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
And the will of the people must take precedence over Parliament.
Otherwise we have a dictatorship. |
We've a parliamentary democracy.
Whether of not it'll need a vote in parliament to invoke article 50 who knows. But saying 'the people have spoken and we don't need a vote' doesn't make it true. Similarly people saying 'we have to have a vote in parliament' doesn't make that true either.
We'll have to wait and see what is needed. I personally think we should leave as that's what the referendum said (even though I didn't agree with the decision). But it actually wouldn't surprise me if we need a vote in parliament and if that happens, then I'm not sure we ever will leave. | | | |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:39 - Jul 22 with 679 views | sherpajacob |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:34 - Jul 22 by Highjack |
Lets do in with elections altogether then. |
How does saying parliament is sovereign equate to doing away with elections altogether?
Its the exact opposite.
we have election to choose who represents us in parliament. | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:40 - Jul 22 with 678 views | Lord_Bony |
| Brexit might never happen on 14:36 - Jul 22 by londonlisa2001 |
We've a parliamentary democracy.
Whether of not it'll need a vote in parliament to invoke article 50 who knows. But saying 'the people have spoken and we don't need a vote' doesn't make it true. Similarly people saying 'we have to have a vote in parliament' doesn't make that true either.
We'll have to wait and see what is needed. I personally think we should leave as that's what the referendum said (even though I didn't agree with the decision). But it actually wouldn't surprise me if we need a vote in parliament and if that happens, then I'm not sure we ever will leave. |
Jesus that makes grim reading for our democracy....
No wonder people can t be bothered voting if its for nothing.... | |
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| Brexit might never happen on 14:40 - Jul 22 with 674 views | Highjack |
If the Scottish referendum had voted for independence and Westminster blocked it how do you think that would have gone down?
It's not legally binding after all. | |
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