| Blackburn Reflection 17:41 - Feb 14 with 17825 views | bluenwhite10 |
A really bad performance against a really poor side.
Started well and played some lovely football for the 1st 10-15 mins, maybe overplayed a bit for the perfect goal, but unfortunately it is a 90mins games and the rest was poor.
All the goals came from mistakes and poor goals to let in.
Saito, Dunne, very poor, with Bennie looking maybe unfairly out of his depth, but the injury crisis dictates the options and the line up and the changes as the bench looked weak today.
Ending up with a midfield 4 of Vale, Smyth, Morgan, Saito is not going to win you games but it is what it is.
Surprised Stephen did not change it earlier, by bringing in Kolli earlier and go for 2 up to top.
Smyth needs to stop giving away cheap fouls.
Another strange one today was against Coventry when they had a corner we kept 3 up, but when we went 3-1 down we brought everybody back which baffled me a bit
In summary poor performance and a missed opportunity to push for the play offs against a really poor side.
Hope Madsen injury is not serious as that will be a massive miss as most good things go through him.
MOM …can’t honestly pick one.
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| Blackburn Reflection on 08:07 - Feb 16 with 1463 views | Hunterhoop |
| Blackburn Reflection on 03:11 - Feb 16 by VancouverHoop |
This. Absolutely.
We need two reliable, effective, fit, midfielders who can drive the game. One — Madsen — isn't enough. The two of them will enable both the defence and forwards to do their jobs. Our other midfielders are either too young (Varane, Morgan, Vale) or journeymen at best (Hayden, Field, who's a defender anyway IMHO) [Post edited 16 Feb 3:14]
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How is Field a “journeyman”? He’d only been at West Brom (1 or 2 loan spells when he was young), and then us for 4 and a half seasons. And in those seasons he won Players’ Player of the Year, and Fans’ Player of the Year, as well as runner up in both, in separate seasons. He’s the opposite of a journeyman. Over 4 seasons he proved he is effective at this level.
Last two starts for Norwich, they’ve had 60% possession and thoroughly outplayed their oppo with him at the heart of central midfield.
There is a strange narrative that has built up online by those who don’t rate him which simply isn’t based on reality. Yes, he’s been poor this season, but he’s barely had any minutes, and when he has played it’s been at left back. Anyone would struggle to get into a rhythm and play well. The prior 4 seasons he was very good for us and picked repeatedly by every manager we had.
When he went to Norwich, they were something like 9 points behind us. If they are ahead of us at the end of the season, with him starting in central midfield, will people consider that perhaps he was good enough for still? Sadly, I think it already looks likely Norwich will want him permanently in the summer and that will be that.
Again, I personally think you need a few “lifers” like him, Chair, Dunne, in your sides to set the standards and also make the team more than just a waiting room before you move onto other things. If every player is part of the player trading model, who is there who really cares about the club? Who will really stand up when things get tough? Who will put their body on the line if they could be sold in a few months? [Post edited 16 Feb 10:03]
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| Blackburn Reflection on 08:28 - Feb 16 with 1376 views | Dorse |
It's Monday and I am still utterly pissed off about that performance. The reason I mention it is because, for comparison, I was actually less annoyed after the mauling from Coventry.
It feels like we have thrown away the season. I am not saying we'd have made the play-offs but, for the first time in years, we looked like we had a positive say in our final standings rather than a desperate scrap to cling onto our status as a Championship also-ran. Look, I'll be delighted to be wrong but, right now, it seems unlikely.
Decisions made way outside of Saturday's events have left us exposed in key positions and whoever is responsible for squad fitness might want to keep out of the way for a while. I doubt many people will be queuing up to shake their hand, right now. I don't have any knowledge about budgets etc but, with a fully available squad, we look alright - when exactly can we expect to see that? Our treatment room must look like A&E after the running of the bulls. People folded into pretzels, blood everywhere, bits falling off. And still they wheel out 'nothing serious, he'll be back on grass soon'. Yeah right, if you mean he'll be wheeled out in a bath chair wrapped in blankets by his carer, then fair enough.
I've got to stop this. I'm getting the hump again.
(Edited due to rage-induced spelling errors) [Post edited 16 Feb 8:57]
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| Blackburn Reflection on 08:31 - Feb 16 with 1351 views | robith |
Bet Blackburn couldn't believe their luck that the FIFA R1+triangle ball worked not once but twice |  | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 08:48 - Feb 16 with 1290 views | wombat |
| Blackburn Reflection on 08:07 - Feb 16 by Hunterhoop |
How is Field a “journeyman”? He’d only been at West Brom (1 or 2 loan spells when he was young), and then us for 4 and a half seasons. And in those seasons he won Players’ Player of the Year, and Fans’ Player of the Year, as well as runner up in both, in separate seasons. He’s the opposite of a journeyman. Over 4 seasons he proved he is effective at this level.
Last two starts for Norwich, they’ve had 60% possession and thoroughly outplayed their oppo with him at the heart of central midfield.
There is a strange narrative that has built up online by those who don’t rate him which simply isn’t based on reality. Yes, he’s been poor this season, but he’s barely had any minutes, and when he has played it’s been at left back. Anyone would struggle to get into a rhythm and play well. The prior 4 seasons he was very good for us and picked repeatedly by every manager we had.
When he went to Norwich, they were something like 9 points behind us. If they are ahead of us at the end of the season, with him starting in central midfield, will people consider that perhaps he was good enough for still? Sadly, I think it already looks likely Norwich will want him permanently in the summer and that will be that.
Again, I personally think you need a few “lifers” like him, Chair, Dunne, in your sides to set the standards and also make the team more than just a waiting room before you move onto other things. If every player is part of the player trading model, who is there who really cares about the club? Who will really stand up when things get tough? Who will put their body on the line if they could be sold in a few months? [Post edited 16 Feb 10:03]
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this is the issue with the project , players who might be worth more money in the coming years will be playing above players who are actually decent and help bring , results and league postions dont really matter anymore , its how much profit we can bring in from some players ( madsopn playing every minute ). once it becomes more obvious than it already is how long will carry on selling out loftus every week ? This is the project ! |  |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 09:23 - Feb 16 with 1209 views | R_from_afar |
| Blackburn Reflection on 21:41 - Feb 15 by stainrods_elbow |
No, it's time for the board to take one hard look at what's happening (and not happening) on the PITCH, and tell the manager that IT'S not good enough. |
Your burning desire for us to improve is great to see, but when you rage against JS, remember that we do not have a pyramid structure with him at the top and all the other coaches and fitness and performance staff reporting to him.
Personally, I'd prefer it if we did, but that's not how things are currently.
In a nutshell, it isn't all down to Stephan. |  |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 09:25 - Feb 16 with 1203 views | wombat |
| Blackburn Reflection on 09:23 - Feb 16 by R_from_afar |
Your burning desire for us to improve is great to see, but when you rage against JS, remember that we do not have a pyramid structure with him at the top and all the other coaches and fitness and performance staff reporting to him.
Personally, I'd prefer it if we did, but that's not how things are currently.
In a nutshell, it isn't all down to Stephan. |
Never has the term Shit Rolls Downhill been more fitting ! | |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 09:45 - Feb 16 with 1129 views | TwoHalves |
| Blackburn Reflection on 08:28 - Feb 16 by Dorse |
It's Monday and I am still utterly pissed off about that performance. The reason I mention it is because, for comparison, I was actually less annoyed after the mauling from Coventry.
It feels like we have thrown away the season. I am not saying we'd have made the play-offs but, for the first time in years, we looked like we had a positive say in our final standings rather than a desperate scrap to cling onto our status as a Championship also-ran. Look, I'll be delighted to be wrong but, right now, it seems unlikely.
Decisions made way outside of Saturday's events have left us exposed in key positions and whoever is responsible for squad fitness might want to keep out of the way for a while. I doubt many people will be queuing up to shake their hand, right now. I don't have any knowledge about budgets etc but, with a fully available squad, we look alright - when exactly can we expect to see that? Our treatment room must look like A&E after the running of the bulls. People folded into pretzels, blood everywhere, bits falling off. And still they wheel out 'nothing serious, he'll be back on grass soon'. Yeah right, if you mean he'll be wheeled out in a bath chair wrapped in blankets by his carer, then fair enough.
I've got to stop this. I'm getting the hump again.
(Edited due to rage-induced spelling errors) [Post edited 16 Feb 8:57]
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Our treatment room looking like ‘A&E after the running of the bulls’ made me smile (although it probably shouldn’t). I’d be more concerned if they actually were assuring us our injured players were ‘back on grass soon’. With the state of our pitch that could be some time. |  | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 09:47 - Feb 16 with 1125 views | Northernr |
| Blackburn Reflection on 09:23 - Feb 16 by R_from_afar |
Your burning desire for us to improve is great to see, but when you rage against JS, remember that we do not have a pyramid structure with him at the top and all the other coaches and fitness and performance staff reporting to him.
Personally, I'd prefer it if we did, but that's not how things are currently.
In a nutshell, it isn't all down to Stephan. |
Neatly demonstrated by the amount of managers we've worked our way through over the last ten years while finishing 12th, 18th, 16th, 19th, 13th, 9th, 11th, 20th, 18th, 15th in the Championship.
Keep changing the manager and things stay the same then your manager wasn't the problem.
The club under its current structure has gone massively out of its way to make it clear we don't have a manager, we have a head coach, and it's a collective effort. So blaming him/firing him would be a bit contradictory. |  | | |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 09:56 - Feb 16 with 1079 views | Blue_Castello |
We need a Director of Football, somebody with experience who can guide our young CEO, it doesnt have to be an expensive appointment it could even be on a part time basis, we're looking for a man who knows how to get a team promoted and NO I think the option of asking Sharon's permission has long gone.....  | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:07 - Feb 16 with 1041 views | Blue_Castello |
| Blackburn Reflection on 08:07 - Feb 16 by Hunterhoop |
How is Field a “journeyman”? He’d only been at West Brom (1 or 2 loan spells when he was young), and then us for 4 and a half seasons. And in those seasons he won Players’ Player of the Year, and Fans’ Player of the Year, as well as runner up in both, in separate seasons. He’s the opposite of a journeyman. Over 4 seasons he proved he is effective at this level.
Last two starts for Norwich, they’ve had 60% possession and thoroughly outplayed their oppo with him at the heart of central midfield.
There is a strange narrative that has built up online by those who don’t rate him which simply isn’t based on reality. Yes, he’s been poor this season, but he’s barely had any minutes, and when he has played it’s been at left back. Anyone would struggle to get into a rhythm and play well. The prior 4 seasons he was very good for us and picked repeatedly by every manager we had.
When he went to Norwich, they were something like 9 points behind us. If they are ahead of us at the end of the season, with him starting in central midfield, will people consider that perhaps he was good enough for still? Sadly, I think it already looks likely Norwich will want him permanently in the summer and that will be that.
Again, I personally think you need a few “lifers” like him, Chair, Dunne, in your sides to set the standards and also make the team more than just a waiting room before you move onto other things. If every player is part of the player trading model, who is there who really cares about the club? Who will really stand up when things get tough? Who will put their body on the line if they could be sold in a few months? [Post edited 16 Feb 10:03]
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Excellent post Field is as good as Varane and should have been given some games alongside Madsen, he was made the sacrificial lamb after the Coventry debacle and then just used as a reserve left back which is obviously not his natural position.
Well the Manager picks the team and for what ever reason Field was not seen as first choice, yes we know about his limitations but as a defensive midfield player he is very solid and adds a lot to the team. Hes adding to Norwichs strength in midfield which they were missing and they are looking stronger as a team, sadly he will feel that he's no longer wanted and that a move to the Norfolk countryside will be very appealing. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:08 - Feb 16 with 1039 views | terryb |
| Blackburn Reflection on 19:16 - Feb 15 by BklynRanger |
I'm always in agreement with the delayed subs issue but I think the first delay was are we replacing Kone or getting him help, and the second was can Madsen continue. |
I'm sure that the injuries contributed to the delay of the subs, but they shouldn't have! Make the three changes you were going to make & take the injured player of later if need be. Kone & Madsen were not going to be the ones replaced!
We also delayed the subs a third time so that we could take a "long " throw with the current players on the pitch. I'm sorry, but the delay & not making the changes at half time, was poor management. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:11 - Feb 16 with 1027 views | ted_hendrix |
We have a playing squad of Homer Simpson's.
We have a coaching team of Homer Simpson's.
We have a medical team of Homer Simpson's.
Our Yoga teacher Is Marge Simpson.
Our CEO Is Homer Simpson.
This time next Year we'll be moaning about having too many Homer Simpson's at the club after losing at home 1-3 to Stockport bloody County. |  |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 10:21 - Feb 16 with 987 views | Rsole |
| Blackburn Reflection on 09:47 - Feb 16 by Northernr |
Neatly demonstrated by the amount of managers we've worked our way through over the last ten years while finishing 12th, 18th, 16th, 19th, 13th, 9th, 11th, 20th, 18th, 15th in the Championship.
Keep changing the manager and things stay the same then your manager wasn't the problem.
The club under its current structure has gone massively out of its way to make it clear we don't have a manager, we have a head coach, and it's a collective effort. So blaming him/firing him would be a bit contradictory. |
9th you say ?
Can we put that down to bloody Les again. The experienced, club legend, DoF that made no money on Eze either… |  |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 10:35 - Feb 16 with 931 views | Northernr |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:21 - Feb 16 by Rsole |
9th you say ?
Can we put that down to bloody Les again. The experienced, club legend, DoF that made no money on Eze either… |
And Warburton, who was also frequently coated off for not saying exactly what we wanted in post match interviews. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:38 - Feb 16 with 913 views | Rsole |
| Blackburn Reflection on 08:28 - Feb 16 by Dorse |
It's Monday and I am still utterly pissed off about that performance. The reason I mention it is because, for comparison, I was actually less annoyed after the mauling from Coventry.
It feels like we have thrown away the season. I am not saying we'd have made the play-offs but, for the first time in years, we looked like we had a positive say in our final standings rather than a desperate scrap to cling onto our status as a Championship also-ran. Look, I'll be delighted to be wrong but, right now, it seems unlikely.
Decisions made way outside of Saturday's events have left us exposed in key positions and whoever is responsible for squad fitness might want to keep out of the way for a while. I doubt many people will be queuing up to shake their hand, right now. I don't have any knowledge about budgets etc but, with a fully available squad, we look alright - when exactly can we expect to see that? Our treatment room must look like A&E after the running of the bulls. People folded into pretzels, blood everywhere, bits falling off. And still they wheel out 'nothing serious, he'll be back on grass soon'. Yeah right, if you mean he'll be wheeled out in a bath chair wrapped in blankets by his carer, then fair enough.
I've got to stop this. I'm getting the hump again.
(Edited due to rage-induced spelling errors) [Post edited 16 Feb 8:57]
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Completely agree Dorse, although having slept on it twice, it feels more like detachment syndrome than annoyance today. Vale’s corner made me turn off and find something else to do.
Field’s departure and the inevitable weekend Injuries haven’t helped matters.
Had Hayden seen a straight red and Madsen is out for a few weeks, what’s the next best option for us ? Same at Left Back where we had cover with Field.
As my old man would say - ‘there’s nothing like planing - and that’s nothing like planning !’
Luckily Kone is tough but at one point I thought we’d lost him too on Saturday. [Post edited 16 Feb 10:40]
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| Blackburn Reflection on 10:39 - Feb 16 with 906 views | daveB |
| Blackburn Reflection on 09:56 - Feb 16 by Blue_Castello |
We need a Director of Football, somebody with experience who can guide our young CEO, it doesnt have to be an expensive appointment it could even be on a part time basis, we're looking for a man who knows how to get a team promoted and NO I think the option of asking Sharon's permission has long gone..... |
I do agree but the clubs priorities are to sign young players, develop and sell on for money then reinvest. Having a good competitive team today is quite a long way down that list and it shows every season for a decade now. |  | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:41 - Feb 16 with 893 views | Rsole |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:35 - Feb 16 by Northernr |
And Warburton, who was also frequently coated off for not saying exactly what we wanted in post match interviews. |
A man who also wanted to be DoF….have you got his number ? | |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 10:51 - Feb 16 with 848 views | Blue_Castello |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:39 - Feb 16 by daveB |
I do agree but the clubs priorities are to sign young players, develop and sell on for money then reinvest. Having a good competitive team today is quite a long way down that list and it shows every season for a decade now. |
Yup I understand that but surely there's a possibility we could look at how Steve Gallen is working at Millwall and use that as an example, they are buying and selling players and appear to have got stronger each season, surely that shows it's possible to do both otherwise your just marking time and will never progress. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:58 - Feb 16 with 821 views | daveB |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:51 - Feb 16 by Blue_Castello |
Yup I understand that but surely there's a possibility we could look at how Steve Gallen is working at Millwall and use that as an example, they are buying and selling players and appear to have got stronger each season, surely that shows it's possible to do both otherwise your just marking time and will never progress. |
It's not just Millwall either. Preston regularly finish above us, were dreadful last year and are now leaving us behind. Bristol City as well regularly outperform us and make big money from sales whilst shopping in the same supermarket aisle. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:32 - Feb 16 with 753 views | KensalT |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:51 - Feb 16 by Blue_Castello |
Yup I understand that but surely there's a possibility we could look at how Steve Gallen is working at Millwall and use that as an example, they are buying and selling players and appear to have got stronger each season, surely that shows it's possible to do both otherwise your just marking time and will never progress. |
Millwall have been doing a lot right for a good while now.
Despite that they spent most of the 2023-24 season hovering just above the relegation places and only a strong finish bumped them up to 13th and 59 points.
If you remember that was the season Rowett left and they appointed the hot young talent Joe Edwards to take them to the next level. That bombed so badly they had to bring back Neil Harris to steady the ship.
So even clubs that are doing it right and steadily progressing will make the odd mis-step, and the Championship is so unforgiving that one wrong appointment can cause everything to unravel. | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:43 - Feb 16 with 722 views | WestminsteRs |
I'm a bit surprised that Sam Field's absence is doing so much in people's minds to limit us.
Field is a useful utility player who can come on and work hard, plug some gaps and put a tackle in (for which he will receive a yellow card) in the right circumstances. But in possession he slows us down and for me is the least progressive central midfield option we have.
Letting him go on loan may have been an error because we're so light in the position overall but assuming the deal is he moves to Norwich permanently should they stay up and we receive a reasonable fee for him then it seems good business with a view to giving the likes of Morgan, Isak and others game time. |  | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:57 - Feb 16 with 669 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:43 - Feb 16 by WestminsteRs |
I'm a bit surprised that Sam Field's absence is doing so much in people's minds to limit us.
Field is a useful utility player who can come on and work hard, plug some gaps and put a tackle in (for which he will receive a yellow card) in the right circumstances. But in possession he slows us down and for me is the least progressive central midfield option we have.
Letting him go on loan may have been an error because we're so light in the position overall but assuming the deal is he moves to Norwich permanently should they stay up and we receive a reasonable fee for him then it seems good business with a view to giving the likes of Morgan, Isak and others game time. |
I can see why you'd say that. However, Morgan and Isak really ought to be getting game time on loan currently before being thrust into the QPR midfield workhouse and expecting them to take the division by storm.
I'm not alone on this, we've really got to do better with loaning out to toughen them up and get some hard minutes in their boots.
I don't know the economics of the SF loan, I suspect they guided it. But if it were me, then SF would have stayed and I'd have looked to definitely get KM out on loan and we might as well have done the same with IA. Alternatively, my other big thought: get to 50 points asap and then play as many of the pups as possible with the pressure off. If we see nothing, then adios. |  |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 11:59 - Feb 16 with 661 views | wombat |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:43 - Feb 16 by WestminsteRs |
I'm a bit surprised that Sam Field's absence is doing so much in people's minds to limit us.
Field is a useful utility player who can come on and work hard, plug some gaps and put a tackle in (for which he will receive a yellow card) in the right circumstances. But in possession he slows us down and for me is the least progressive central midfield option we have.
Letting him go on loan may have been an error because we're so light in the position overall but assuming the deal is he moves to Norwich permanently should they stay up and we receive a reasonable fee for him then it seems good business with a view to giving the likes of Morgan, Isak and others game time. |
ud say hes worse than varanne for progression out of midfield? when was the last time varanne played a killer ball forward ? he spends most of his time passing the ball backwards to which ever keeper is in favour that week. varanne gets the nod when fit to play due to his possible salability value nothing more , morgan in his limited performacnes this season had sadly regressed performance wise . isak unknown quantity . didnt he get himself sent off rec for the dev squad . | |
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| Blackburn Reflection on 12:10 - Feb 16 with 642 views | loftus77 |
| Blackburn Reflection on 10:11 - Feb 16 by ted_hendrix |
We have a playing squad of Homer Simpson's.
We have a coaching team of Homer Simpson's.
We have a medical team of Homer Simpson's.
Our Yoga teacher Is Marge Simpson.
Our CEO Is Homer Simpson.
This time next Year we'll be moaning about having too many Homer Simpson's at the club after losing at home 1-3 to Stockport bloody County. |
Just for clarity - the assumption here being that Stockport will be promoted to the Championship in order to defeat us next season - right? Not anything else... | | | |
| Blackburn Reflection on 12:58 - Feb 16 with 554 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Blackburn Reflection on 11:43 - Feb 16 by WestminsteRs |
I'm a bit surprised that Sam Field's absence is doing so much in people's minds to limit us.
Field is a useful utility player who can come on and work hard, plug some gaps and put a tackle in (for which he will receive a yellow card) in the right circumstances. But in possession he slows us down and for me is the least progressive central midfield option we have.
Letting him go on loan may have been an error because we're so light in the position overall but assuming the deal is he moves to Norwich permanently should they stay up and we receive a reasonable fee for him then it seems good business with a view to giving the likes of Morgan, Isak and others game time. |
Uh oh, you've only gone and spoken out against the greatest centre midfielder QPR have had in the past 30 years. Not that I rate either Varane or Hayden either as they're all cut from the same cloth.
Totally agree with you, though. | |
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