| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread 03:18 - Feb 4 with 42610 views | Spaceman_P |
Riding high from the previous weekends pant pulling of Coventry.
I feel there is positivity in the camp, weirdly I think Field going may phase the team.
However if its the same team line up and if Vale and Madsen are on fire.
We'll be the Orgasm Addicks not them
Charlton Diuretic 0 QPR 3
Kone, Dunne and Vale
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:41 - Feb 6 with 2658 views | actonman |
I think if Julie had the chance to shag a porn star he would go for a w@ nk instead ! |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:43 - Feb 6 with 2654 views | kensalriser |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:36 - Feb 6 by dmm |
I've not read the thread having just got back from the game. Suffice to say it was so unmemorable that I'd struggle to recall any highlight whatsoever. In fact, I have no desire to recall that match at all. |
Sorry, what match now? |  |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:56 - Feb 6 with 2525 views | Match82 |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 22:07 - Feb 6 by Northernr |
It does feel like we think a point away is always fine, and we're just going away to kill the games, then we'll play and attack at home.
I've watched that one on TV today, but it looked like the Oxford and Stoke games to me. Again, like Stoke, when we started to attack in injury time we could have easily scored a couple of goals.
Bristol City made the play offs last year winning eight of their final 11 home games, and one of their last 15 away games of which they drew seven. Feels like we're trying to do something similar.
I do think player availability and fitness is a big part of this. he's only made two subs again tonight, he clearly doesn't like or trust what he's got beyond these 11-13 players. So sit in conserve, rely on some old school centre backs away, and then attack at home. If we hadn't sht the bed against Wrexham we'd have seven home wins from eight played and one away win from 11. |
Generally agree with the point but appreciate that wasnt a "nil nil will do us thanks" approach to the last ten minutes, we were properly going for it (shame about the rest of the game by the sound of it) |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 00:21 - Feb 7 with 2374 views | Myke |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 22:07 - Feb 6 by Northernr |
It does feel like we think a point away is always fine, and we're just going away to kill the games, then we'll play and attack at home.
I've watched that one on TV today, but it looked like the Oxford and Stoke games to me. Again, like Stoke, when we started to attack in injury time we could have easily scored a couple of goals.
Bristol City made the play offs last year winning eight of their final 11 home games, and one of their last 15 away games of which they drew seven. Feels like we're trying to do something similar.
I do think player availability and fitness is a big part of this. he's only made two subs again tonight, he clearly doesn't like or trust what he's got beyond these 11-13 players. So sit in conserve, rely on some old school centre backs away, and then attack at home. If we hadn't sht the bed against Wrexham we'd have seven home wins from eight played and one away win from 11. |
I wouldn’t mind too much if it was Ipswich or Middleboro or even Milwall. But playing for a draw at Oxford and Charlton? To be serious about play-offs you win these games. If you do, then late capitulations like Wrexham are far less damaging. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 00:26 - Feb 7 with 2354 views | 7374Ranger |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:14 - Feb 6 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Should have lost but for Walsh and their crap shooting.
We need a discussion on how crap Saito has been since he came back. Awful again tonight.
We looked so much better when Stephan finally put Kolli on. He's a class player, play him! |
In fairness to Saito he isn't a right winger. He should gave been on the left with Smyth on the right. Or even better, in a no.10 role. Vale was very poor in that role and Koĺli should have been played there when he came on.
Stephan's team selections and tactics are costing QPR points.
This 4 away draws and 1 loss against teams that could easily have been beaten.
Portsmouth WBA Stoke (injury hit squad) Oxford and now Charlton. To be fair Portsmouth played well and could have beaten QPR on Boxing Day. | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 00:38 - Feb 7 with 2321 views | dermyqpr |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 00:21 - Feb 7 by Myke |
I wouldn’t mind too much if it was Ipswich or Middleboro or even Milwall. But playing for a draw at Oxford and Charlton? To be serious about play-offs you win these games. If you do, then late capitulations like Wrexham are far less damaging. |
We weren't ambitious enough. Saito is not performing. Still not sure myself about Bennie. Kolli needs more playtime. Would rather see Jimmy on the right than Edwards. Finally the crossing. Omg. Dire. And the amount of times we turned down the chance of a cross. Jesus. 1st half they had 18 crosses to the box. We had 8 despite having more possession. Someone mentioned we had a lot of blocked shots. No. Failed crosses more like. Charlton worked hard and tired. We might have snuck it but no. Walsh has certainly put the keeper question to bed. Might not get everything right but he saved us on at least 4 occasions. Onwards and hopefully upwards. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 02:03 - Feb 7 with 2193 views | TwoHalves |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 23:41 - Feb 6 by actonman |
I think if Julie had the chance to shag a porn star he would go for a w@ nk instead ! |
Depends who’s available TBF. | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 03:23 - Feb 7 with 2087 views | derbyhoop |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 18:50 - Feb 6 by knocker |
Not much on the bench |
Just everybody available. |  |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 07:50 - Feb 7 with 1792 views | QPunkR |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 02:03 - Feb 7 by TwoHalves |
Depends who’s available TBF. |
If it's down to our Head of Performance then probably no-one |  |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:36 - Feb 7 with 1592 views | loftus77 |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 22:44 - Feb 6 by LongRanger |
Whether happy or not with a draw is down to opinion but there was a total lack of any quality across the team.. we're setting up in away games as if we're still fighting relegation. Let's be straight, Charlton are sh!t, and there for the taking, but we were too focused on not losing from the start that we overlooked the opportunity. This season is a big opportunity to make the playoffs but we seem keen not to take it. |
Agree - this is the point (no pun) for me.
The last 3 years have been full-on relegation battles for us (incl. last season in many parts). Grinding grimly to 52pts+ has sort of become part of our DNA in recent times. For the team to switch from this mindset to an outfit that suddenly rampages into the play-off places from nowhere is some leap.
I don't always understand/agree with our CEO but one thing Nourry has emphasized a lot recently is this Two Year Thing - that we are strengthening and developing steadily from fighting the drop to a play-off/promotion push, probably the season after next (27/28). Viewed through that prism, last night and recent away performances perhaps start to make more sense.
The Party Line imho is jam tomorrow. Jam Today is not the Plan. [Post edited 7 Feb 9:37]
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:39 - Feb 7 with 1580 views | nix |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 00:26 - Feb 7 by 7374Ranger |
In fairness to Saito he isn't a right winger. He should gave been on the left with Smyth on the right. Or even better, in a no.10 role. Vale was very poor in that role and Koĺli should have been played there when he came on.
Stephan's team selections and tactics are costing QPR points.
This 4 away draws and 1 loss against teams that could easily have been beaten.
Portsmouth WBA Stoke (injury hit squad) Oxford and now Charlton. To be fair Portsmouth played well and could have beaten QPR on Boxing Day. |
Easy to say that but that’s a case of hindsighitis. He’s started with Kolli against Stoke and he looked pretty ineffective but much better off the bench against Sheffield Wednesday. Whereas Vale looked great against both Wrexham and Coventry but was rubbish last night. I’m not sure if he’s only effective against teams that give him space and time to spray the ball about and spot a ball. Or maybe he’s just young and more likely to be inconsistent.
But I’d feel the same way about Kolli, Vale and Saito as Stephan does: they’re all so inconsistent you can’t rely on them as starters. Which is why we are missing Chair, Poku and Burrell so much, and even Dembele who offers more going forward. No way he’d be picking them as starters if the others were available. The argument about playing Saito and Smyth in their natural positions is more reasonable but I think he is thinking of how much Smyth protects his LB and so he often plays because of that and maybe he thought Ronnie would be solid there and need less back up.
I don’t think you’re giving Stephan credit for what he has achieved this season. We’ve been injury ravaged and without arguably our most creative player who would be exactly the one who could unlock defences in those kind of matches. And yet we’re still within three points of the play offs. I didn’t see many people on here predicting that early in the season, did you? My recollection was most people were predicting disaster and many saying we’d be in the relegation places. He’s performing better than Martí was, admittedly with a better team but also with a younger, less experienced team. If we’d won that Wrexham match we’d actually be in the play offs, and I don’t think he can legislate for Mad Ben’s brain fart.
I think fans of most teams would be happy with drawing away and winning at home. If we continue with that we’re likely to be in or around the play offs which I think would be a hell of an achievement given the fact he’s a new manager to the Championship and with the injuries he’s had. Also yes it’s true we’ve got more quality than we’ve had for some time but then so have teams around us. So while we haven’t got brilliant relegated teams in the Championship this season we have got teams like Wrexham and Birmingham unusually having huge resources for promoted teams. You mention Stoke being injury ravaged but so are we and yet we’ve done better in the form table than them, Southampton, Bristol City, Preston, Watford, Leicester and WBA, all either teams around us in the play off hunt or with much bigger wage bills.
I think it’s fair to say he’s made mistakes, overplaying Burrell being the worst in my view which I really did predict in advance. But he’s also won us points by being smart and galvanising his resources as well as making mistakes.
As a club who in recent times has had Ainsworth, Critchley, Beale, McClaren, Hasselbaink, Ramsey, Redknapp and Hughes I’m pretty happy with JS. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:40 - Feb 7 with 1575 views | Spaceman_P |
I think even the most hard headed of fans must see we've improved and Julian actually may be the reason for that.
I think this year's team has a lot of potential. But I think its still a learning curve. I still think our guys aren't fully gelled together.
Lets see how many points away from play offs we are after today's matches | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:53 - Feb 7 with 1537 views | Big_Mac |
Not so much a comment on the match but on getting into the match.
I was outside the stadium 20 minutes before kickoff and missed the first 10 minutes of the game. It got a bit squashed as they funnelled us through the tight alley to the 4 turnstiles that looked like they’ve stood there since the ground was built. Had people shoving me in the back trying to break through the stewards. First time in a while I’ve actually been a bit worried in a crowd. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 10:01 - Feb 7 with 1513 views | sdm1508 |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 22:50 - Feb 6 by stainrods_elbow |
Not tonight, I'm afraid. |
Well let's base a career on one game then. | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 10:04 - Feb 7 with 1487 views | Watford_Ranger |
The ref blowing up for a defender going down with cramp in the penalty area when we had the ball about 35 yards from goal was a decision. Strange game from the guy in general. As bad as we were first half he kept gifting them free kicks to lump into the box which didn’t help. | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 12:41 - Feb 7 with 1279 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:39 - Feb 7 by nix |
Easy to say that but that’s a case of hindsighitis. He’s started with Kolli against Stoke and he looked pretty ineffective but much better off the bench against Sheffield Wednesday. Whereas Vale looked great against both Wrexham and Coventry but was rubbish last night. I’m not sure if he’s only effective against teams that give him space and time to spray the ball about and spot a ball. Or maybe he’s just young and more likely to be inconsistent.
But I’d feel the same way about Kolli, Vale and Saito as Stephan does: they’re all so inconsistent you can’t rely on them as starters. Which is why we are missing Chair, Poku and Burrell so much, and even Dembele who offers more going forward. No way he’d be picking them as starters if the others were available. The argument about playing Saito and Smyth in their natural positions is more reasonable but I think he is thinking of how much Smyth protects his LB and so he often plays because of that and maybe he thought Ronnie would be solid there and need less back up.
I don’t think you’re giving Stephan credit for what he has achieved this season. We’ve been injury ravaged and without arguably our most creative player who would be exactly the one who could unlock defences in those kind of matches. And yet we’re still within three points of the play offs. I didn’t see many people on here predicting that early in the season, did you? My recollection was most people were predicting disaster and many saying we’d be in the relegation places. He’s performing better than Martí was, admittedly with a better team but also with a younger, less experienced team. If we’d won that Wrexham match we’d actually be in the play offs, and I don’t think he can legislate for Mad Ben’s brain fart.
I think fans of most teams would be happy with drawing away and winning at home. If we continue with that we’re likely to be in or around the play offs which I think would be a hell of an achievement given the fact he’s a new manager to the Championship and with the injuries he’s had. Also yes it’s true we’ve got more quality than we’ve had for some time but then so have teams around us. So while we haven’t got brilliant relegated teams in the Championship this season we have got teams like Wrexham and Birmingham unusually having huge resources for promoted teams. You mention Stoke being injury ravaged but so are we and yet we’ve done better in the form table than them, Southampton, Bristol City, Preston, Watford, Leicester and WBA, all either teams around us in the play off hunt or with much bigger wage bills.
I think it’s fair to say he’s made mistakes, overplaying Burrell being the worst in my view which I really did predict in advance. But he’s also won us points by being smart and galvanising his resources as well as making mistakes.
As a club who in recent times has had Ainsworth, Critchley, Beale, McClaren, Hasselbaink, Ramsey, Redknapp and Hughes I’m pretty happy with JS. |
Great post Nix. Stéphan is doing a decent job in the circumstances and has been a very good appointment so far.
Laughable that someone on this thread was calling for him to be sacked before the game finished FFS. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 13:06 - Feb 7 with 1199 views | R_from_afar |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 22:52 - Feb 6 by mart_Goblin |
There really isn’t any defending that nonsense .
We were totally on top with an opponent wilting .
It showed a lack of bravery really |
If the coaching staff, and players, haven't yet worked out that one of our most potent attacking threats is a Dunne header from a set piece, then they really haven't been paying attention  . |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 13:29 - Feb 7 with 1145 views | mart_Goblin |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 12:41 - Feb 7 by Ned_Kennedys |
Great post Nix. Stéphan is doing a decent job in the circumstances and has been a very good appointment so far.
Laughable that someone on this thread was calling for him to be sacked before the game finished FFS. |
Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous.
We all have our criticisms and opinions of all sorts of things but JS isn’t anywhere near deserving that sort of criticism never mind the actual sack.
Bit pathetic really |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 13:31 - Feb 7 with 1139 views | R_from_afar |
While I was disappointed at the result and how cautious we were, I think JS took a pragmatic approach.
When your new striker, your best striker and your main playmaker are all out, plus none of your fit attacking players are in great form, going gung-ho early on and shipping two or three goals is not the best idea.
The players at our disposal yesterday were unlikely to be able to turn around a two or three goal deficit. Wishing or saying that the available players should be more creative won't magically make them so, although I hope our coaches can improve players, even the mediocre ones, over time.
I think trying to stay in the game then going for it late on made sense, even if, frankly, it does seem a bit dull and passive. Being able to keep a clean sheet when the team is pretty toothless is a real positive. Last night's game was the sort of fixture we usually lose. | |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 15:10 - Feb 7 with 955 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 13:29 - Feb 7 by mart_Goblin |
Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous.
We all have our criticisms and opinions of all sorts of things but JS isn’t anywhere near deserving that sort of criticism never mind the actual sack.
Bit pathetic really |
I think it's okay to criticise him though. Three draws = one win and two defeats. Warnock wins that match last night; that's the difference between our current manager and what we've had in the past. I just can't stop thinking this season was our best opportunity to get in the play-offs for years and 0-0s at Charlton, while not the end of the world, don't achieve anything. | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 15:59 - Feb 7 with 887 views | kensalriser |
We're not really quite good enough to get in the play-offs, but even so, that's not really the point for me, which is we're not good enough to win them.
Obviously the higher we finish the better, but there's almost no practical difference (the additional income is not much) between finishing seventh and losing the playoffs. | |
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| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 16:21 - Feb 7 with 826 views | BklynRanger |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 15:59 - Feb 7 by kensalriser |
We're not really quite good enough to get in the play-offs, but even so, that's not really the point for me, which is we're not good enough to win them.
Obviously the higher we finish the better, but there's almost no practical difference (the additional income is not much) between finishing seventh and losing the playoffs. |
The problem for me is we do seem to have performances in us that, I think, could certainly compete in the playoffs. Last weekend for example - that was against a team you'd strongly fancy if they end up there. Granted Coventry are on a bad run but I felt we handled them very well.
That's what frustrates me most about these away performances. Maybe JS is a genius of foresight and he's trying to teach them to get a 0-0 away and a home win - but we'd need to get there first. |  | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 16:40 - Feb 7 with 740 views | nix |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 13:29 - Feb 7 by mart_Goblin |
Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous.
We all have our criticisms and opinions of all sorts of things but JS isn’t anywhere near deserving that sort of criticism never mind the actual sack.
Bit pathetic really |
Yes that’s a fair assessment. Of course there are things that he’s getting wrong and we’d all criticise and that’s balanced. But FGS we’ve had some nightmare managers and he’s nowhere near that category. There’s no doubt he’s got a good team spirit. People who have reason not to play well like Cook and Madsen are playing out of their skins. But really is anyone’s memory that poor that they forget that we’re always going to have disappointing results against lower level sides who target us as potential points gains? What we’re at least starting to do is draw those matches that we were losing in the past.
I think JS knows like Martí did that all our team have to be at their best for us to do well. When like yesterday you have Saito, Vale, Hayden playing a bit meh and Madsen being normal rather than a superstar then we’re going to get average results. BUT if we can keep in contention anything could happen. Getting in the play offs would be a seriously good achievement with this squad and we’re literally a mad four minutes from achieving that having started the season with a 7-1 loss.
Personally I think we’ll fall slightly short but isn’t it nice to be looking upwards rather than downwards in February? | | | |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 16:52 - Feb 7 with 705 views | Silverfoxqpr |
| Don't be Addicks - Charlton Athletic vs QPR Match Thread on 09:39 - Feb 7 by nix |
Easy to say that but that’s a case of hindsighitis. He’s started with Kolli against Stoke and he looked pretty ineffective but much better off the bench against Sheffield Wednesday. Whereas Vale looked great against both Wrexham and Coventry but was rubbish last night. I’m not sure if he’s only effective against teams that give him space and time to spray the ball about and spot a ball. Or maybe he’s just young and more likely to be inconsistent.
But I’d feel the same way about Kolli, Vale and Saito as Stephan does: they’re all so inconsistent you can’t rely on them as starters. Which is why we are missing Chair, Poku and Burrell so much, and even Dembele who offers more going forward. No way he’d be picking them as starters if the others were available. The argument about playing Saito and Smyth in their natural positions is more reasonable but I think he is thinking of how much Smyth protects his LB and so he often plays because of that and maybe he thought Ronnie would be solid there and need less back up.
I don’t think you’re giving Stephan credit for what he has achieved this season. We’ve been injury ravaged and without arguably our most creative player who would be exactly the one who could unlock defences in those kind of matches. And yet we’re still within three points of the play offs. I didn’t see many people on here predicting that early in the season, did you? My recollection was most people were predicting disaster and many saying we’d be in the relegation places. He’s performing better than Martí was, admittedly with a better team but also with a younger, less experienced team. If we’d won that Wrexham match we’d actually be in the play offs, and I don’t think he can legislate for Mad Ben’s brain fart.
I think fans of most teams would be happy with drawing away and winning at home. If we continue with that we’re likely to be in or around the play offs which I think would be a hell of an achievement given the fact he’s a new manager to the Championship and with the injuries he’s had. Also yes it’s true we’ve got more quality than we’ve had for some time but then so have teams around us. So while we haven’t got brilliant relegated teams in the Championship this season we have got teams like Wrexham and Birmingham unusually having huge resources for promoted teams. You mention Stoke being injury ravaged but so are we and yet we’ve done better in the form table than them, Southampton, Bristol City, Preston, Watford, Leicester and WBA, all either teams around us in the play off hunt or with much bigger wage bills.
I think it’s fair to say he’s made mistakes, overplaying Burrell being the worst in my view which I really did predict in advance. But he’s also won us points by being smart and galvanising his resources as well as making mistakes.
As a club who in recent times has had Ainsworth, Critchley, Beale, McClaren, Hasselbaink, Ramsey, Redknapp and Hughes I’m pretty happy with JS. |
Great post Nix, fair, balanced and rational as always. It's easy when you're around, I just upvote your posts, save typing myself! |  | | |
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