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Reform - surely this has to be the end? 07:37 - Sep 4 with 16310 viewsScotia

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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 22:24 - Sep 4 with 1455 viewsbuilthjack

Farage - the dodgiest person in politics. I have met him twice, full of bullshit, couldn’t answer simple questions.

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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 22:42 - Sep 4 with 1425 viewsmajorraglan

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 20:38 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

People see only truth in the lies and lies in the truth, they see that because they want to. If this channel 4 story was on Andy Burnham they'd be crying out for criminal charges. If it was about Bojo they'd be screaming throw away the key.

But it's Farage and the cult that has followed him is strong like MAGA and just like in the USA when the cult strtaed to wake up a lot of damage had been done. From what I read a lot of MAGA Americans are turning away fom Trump, his popularity is dropping in all but the most stupid and ignorant. Maybe those who be;ieve in Farage will get there before he gets to the top seat.

The next question is, will we find a leader who can actually turn this country around or are we doomed?
Lets face it, we hope to get good politicians but they come from us, they go through our schools and colleges but "garbage in, garbage out and when you look at society in general, where are the good people coming from, the rich, self serving, greedy entitled crowd or the poor grasping, greedy, selfish self serving crowd? There's a lot of people in between who might make good leaders but aren't interested.


Have an up arrow! Totally agree with much that you’ve said.

Politicians should be there to serve the public good, sadly, all too often many are in it for all the wrong reasons. If we are to have good governance, then there needs to be absolute transparency in relation to every financial transaction a politician or political party are involved in and if the law is broken those responsible need to be held to account. People who transgress and fail to comply with the law must be face serious consequences and I don’t mean a slap on the wrists or a telling off I mean jail.

We need to be sure politicians are acting in the national interest and aren’t taking backhanders, bribes or whatever people want to call it for malignant motives, for example Nathan Gill who took money from Putin’s Russia. There’s serious questions now being asked in Hungary post Orban about corruption and his stance on Russia.

Farage is getting a lot of attention and scrutiny, but that’s because there’s a lot of unanswered questions and from where I’m sitting he’s got a lot of explaining to do. He’s been gifted £5m quid, that’s a lot of money and I just wonder what, if anything is expected in return? The alarm bells should be ringing.

If he’s done nowt wrong, great, he’ll be able to stand up at the end of the enquiry and say I told you so, but in the mean time we need to have a no stone unturned investigation.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 22:45 - Sep 4 with 1414 viewsScotia

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:27 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

Our governments of the last 40 years and have brought us to this, Reform are every bit as bad as any of them.

They say what happens in the USA always comes to the Uk, if people are happy with Trumps behaviour and want that in the UK then crack on with Reform. From my point of view we have a MAGA style cult developing coninced that all being said about Reform and Farage is the establishment trying to stop a grreat man from taking power but MAGA turned out to be full of shit and Trumps actions have caused all of us to have higher bills.


We don't understand what's going on in the real world anymore. Only what we're told is happening in the real world on the internet and media.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 23:06 - Sep 4 with 1393 viewsmajorraglan

It’s being reported that Farage has said if he were to win the general election, to eliminate "obstacles" to his plans, Farage said he would declare a "national emergency" and threatened to overhaul the House of Lords and how judges are appointed if they stood in the way.

Sounds very much like what happening over the pond. I’ve no issue with sensible reforming of the House of Lords, but the judiciary must be completely independent and merit based. Judges mustn’t become beholden to politicians and the latter must not be allowed to become above the law.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 23:26 - Sep 4 with 1376 viewsmax936

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 08:23 - Sep 4 by Cornys_Elbow

Convenient timing indeed just as starmer announced stepping
down as an MP maybe something about to come out about the
firebombing? Mandelshon? Grooming inquiry ?
Seems like Alistair Campbell territory.
Deflect and divert attention shows how worried they are.
Farage seems to be constantly making headlines, no publicity
is bad publicity attitude could be playing a dangerous game.
Time will tell.


Its more than obvious that Labour are panicking over the rise of reform and are pulling out all the stops to dig deeper and deeper into everything they do and where they get their funding from and its without doubt that they are spending thousands upon thousand of taxpayers money to do so, the bottom line is that ALL those parties resort to skulduggery when they feel vulnerable, its pathetic.

And before anyone pipes up, I've no time for Farage or Reform, I will admit to liking the stuff that Zai Yusuf has to say.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 23:51 - Sep 4 with 1362 viewsmax936

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 22:24 - Sep 4 by builthjack

Farage - the dodgiest person in politics. I have met him twice, full of bullshit, couldn’t answer simple questions.


I don't like him, he's a full on shyster without a doubt.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 08:50 - Sep 5 with 1236 viewsSullutaCreturned

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 21:31 - Sep 4 by Whiterockin

Cat its really nice to see you back posting.


Thank you. Cards on the table though, there are a few recent posts by dippersmate that are me too. I couldn't log in, my laptop got hacked and I just bined it and couldn't remember any log in details (though I did have a break for a while anyway because it's been very busy here). My son was learning to drive and we were out in the car a lot, we have 2 dogs now and both need a lot of exercise and my wife has been ill for some 18 months now and had 3 months off work where I pretty much had to do everything, my son did help a bit. There's a few other things too.

My son finally passed (3rd time...expensive that was ) my wife is much better and with the Swans looking exciting again AND I bought a new laptop I thought I'd dip in again.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 09:02 - Sep 5 with 1186 viewsGwyn737

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 22:24 - Sep 4 by builthjack

Farage - the dodgiest person in politics. I have met him twice, full of bullshit, couldn’t answer simple questions.


The Reform conference turning into a late night Jerry Springer episode is not a surprise.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 11:32 - Sep 5 with 1116 viewsmax936

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 08:50 - Sep 5 by SullutaCreturned

Thank you. Cards on the table though, there are a few recent posts by dippersmate that are me too. I couldn't log in, my laptop got hacked and I just bined it and couldn't remember any log in details (though I did have a break for a while anyway because it's been very busy here). My son was learning to drive and we were out in the car a lot, we have 2 dogs now and both need a lot of exercise and my wife has been ill for some 18 months now and had 3 months off work where I pretty much had to do everything, my son did help a bit. There's a few other things too.

My son finally passed (3rd time...expensive that was ) my wife is much better and with the Swans looking exciting again AND I bought a new laptop I thought I'd dip in again.


"My son finally passed (3rd time...expensive that was ) my wife is much better and with the Swans looking exciting again AND I bought a new laptop I thought I'd dip in again"

Good news Cat, Welcome back
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 14:20 - Sep 5 with 1056 viewsGwyn737

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 11:32 - Sep 5 by max936

"My son finally passed (3rd time...expensive that was ) my wife is much better and with the Swans looking exciting again AND I bought a new laptop I thought I'd dip in again"

Good news Cat, Welcome back


Agreed.

Cat is a great barometer and as full of common sense as they.come.

I still miss some of the others who were culled about the same time. They gave a lovely balance to the board imo.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:17 - Sep 5 with 1003 viewsonehunglow

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 08:50 - Sep 5 by SullutaCreturned

Thank you. Cards on the table though, there are a few recent posts by dippersmate that are me too. I couldn't log in, my laptop got hacked and I just bined it and couldn't remember any log in details (though I did have a break for a while anyway because it's been very busy here). My son was learning to drive and we were out in the car a lot, we have 2 dogs now and both need a lot of exercise and my wife has been ill for some 18 months now and had 3 months off work where I pretty much had to do everything, my son did help a bit. There's a few other things too.

My son finally passed (3rd time...expensive that was ) my wife is much better and with the Swans looking exciting again AND I bought a new laptop I thought I'd dip in again.


Best wishes from west Wirral
That sounds tough times

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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 21:02 - Sep 5 with 944 viewsKeithHaynes

It will all be forgotten, his two idiots have gone and far quicker than Labour took to get rid of their dodgy MP’s. People only seem to remember what happens today.

On that point Dover welcomed a few chaps this morning.

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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 17:32 - Sep 6 with 741 viewsCornys_Elbow

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 23:26 - Sep 4 by max936

Its more than obvious that Labour are panicking over the rise of reform and are pulling out all the stops to dig deeper and deeper into everything they do and where they get their funding from and its without doubt that they are spending thousands upon thousand of taxpayers money to do so, the bottom line is that ALL those parties resort to skulduggery when they feel vulnerable, its pathetic.

And before anyone pipes up, I've no time for Farage or Reform, I will admit to liking the stuff that Zai Yusuf has to say.


Fair play a good honest view.
I might disagree and agree with some views doesn't mean we can't listen
or discuss its how we learn or used to be.

Zia Yusuf has certainly stood his ground on the biased question time interrogations
from Fiona Bruce.

I just can't relate to labour anymore sad but true.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:00 - Sep 6 with 728 viewsSullutaCreturned

I notice today that Farage's response to the C4 investigation is that...he wasn't listening
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:20 - Sep 6 with 715 viewsjohnlangy

I hadn't seen this before. From Suella Braverman.

"Under a Reform Government, every school will sing the national anthem and our great hymns. Every school will be obliged to fly the Union flag."

I wonder which National Anthem she'll expect to be sung in Wales.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:24 - Sep 6 with 715 viewsWhiterockin

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:00 - Sep 6 by SullutaCreturned

I notice today that Farage's response to the C4 investigation is that...he wasn't listening


Personally I think that when someone is set up the majority of the British people can see right through it and they get more support than originally expected. In short it often backfires. Whether you support Farage or dislike him it is easy to see that the media are "doing a job" on him and it is working in his favor, much as Trump turned the negativity into a positive.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:38 - Sep 6 with 703 viewsScotia

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:24 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin

Personally I think that when someone is set up the majority of the British people can see right through it and they get more support than originally expected. In short it often backfires. Whether you support Farage or dislike him it is easy to see that the media are "doing a job" on him and it is working in his favor, much as Trump turned the negativity into a positive.


There shouldn't be a job to do on him.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:42 - Sep 6 with 697 viewsshingle

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:27 - Sep 4 by SullutaCreturned

Our governments of the last 40 years and have brought us to this, Reform are every bit as bad as any of them.

They say what happens in the USA always comes to the Uk, if people are happy with Trumps behaviour and want that in the UK then crack on with Reform. From my point of view we have a MAGA style cult developing coninced that all being said about Reform and Farage is the establishment trying to stop a grreat man from taking power but MAGA turned out to be full of shit and Trumps actions have caused all of us to have higher bills.


Maybe so but your simply speculating because they have not had the chance to do any good or bad, but what is proven is the Tories and Labour are the culprits for the countries demise and all these headers are running around freaking out over a party who have had nothing to do with the state we are in.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:54 - Sep 6 with 691 viewsScotia

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:00 - Sep 6 by SullutaCreturned

I notice today that Farage's response to the C4 investigation is that...he wasn't listening


And apparently his family are begging him to move away from politics. He knows what's coming.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:56 - Sep 6 with 689 viewsWhiterockin

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:38 - Sep 6 by Scotia

There shouldn't be a job to do on him.


Anyone could have a job done on them, probably even you.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:15 - Sep 6 with 671 viewsScotia

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:56 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin

Anyone could have a job done on them, probably even you.


Maybe once but this keeps happening.

How anyone thinks this man and his party are any good for Britain whatsoever baffles me.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:22 - Sep 6 with 665 viewsWhiterockin

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:15 - Sep 6 by Scotia

Maybe once but this keeps happening.

How anyone thinks this man and his party are any good for Britain whatsoever baffles me.


How anyone thinks the proven alternatives are better baffles me.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:59 - Sep 6 with 638 viewsScotia

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:56 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin

Anyone could have a job done on them, probably even you.


Maybe once but this keeps happening.

How anyone thinks this man and his party are any good for Britain whatsoever baffles me.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 20:01 - Sep 6 with 637 viewsWhiterockin

Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:59 - Sep 6 by Scotia

Maybe once but this keeps happening.

How anyone thinks this man and his party are any good for Britain whatsoever baffles me.


If you keep repeating something it doesn't make the point more valid.
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Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 20:08 - Sep 6 with 609 viewstrampie

A lot of people think that Farage only cares about Farage and doesn't care about the public.
If he got into power the people that would suffer ironically would be the people that are likely to vote for him.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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