| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:25 - Sep 7 with 1287 views | max936 |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 20:48 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin |
Whether Farage will ever be PM or not who knows. But currently its giving me immense pleasure watching the major parties and the media bricking themselves, you could probably throw in posters like yourself. |
Exactly this! |  | |  |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:44 - Sep 7 with 1257 views | max936 |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 21:35 - Sep 6 by Scotia |
I was born in the seventies, most of my adult life has seen a steady decline in living standards. What makes you think Reform can improve that?
All I see is completely absurd policies. The flagship tax threshold increase promise from this conference will cost £30 billion a year by the end of the parliament. Where on earth will that cash come from? And that's just for starters. |
Where's that 30 billion gonna come from? open your eyes and you'll see where from, then again you probably don't want to see it.
This country needs change and urgently, the tax payer cannot continue to fund this useless government spending on the billions we give to foreign aid, paying out billions for these boat people and disastrous deals like the Chagos deal.
Starmer lied his way into No 10 with his dreamt up promises and used the so called "black hole" left by the Tories as an excuse, how deep is this "black Hole" now!
I've no time for reform and particularly Farage, but the Country needs far better Governance than its getting now! | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 11:56 - Sep 7 with 1193 views | blackswan |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:44 - Sep 7 by max936 |
Where's that 30 billion gonna come from? open your eyes and you'll see where from, then again you probably don't want to see it.
This country needs change and urgently, the tax payer cannot continue to fund this useless government spending on the billions we give to foreign aid, paying out billions for these boat people and disastrous deals like the Chagos deal.
Starmer lied his way into No 10 with his dreamt up promises and used the so called "black hole" left by the Tories as an excuse, how deep is this "black Hole" now!
I've no time for reform and particularly Farage, but the Country needs far better Governance than its getting now! |
I agree with you completely the problem is the conservative and Labour governments are not listening to what the people want they have their own agendas.
The woke press hound the so called far right populist parties ( popular as they listen to what the majority want) but are very selective on what they report elsewhere.
Do i trust Farage no but something has to change country is in free fall |  | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:11 - Sep 7 with 1177 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:44 - Sep 7 by max936 |
Where's that 30 billion gonna come from? open your eyes and you'll see where from, then again you probably don't want to see it.
This country needs change and urgently, the tax payer cannot continue to fund this useless government spending on the billions we give to foreign aid, paying out billions for these boat people and disastrous deals like the Chagos deal.
Starmer lied his way into No 10 with his dreamt up promises and used the so called "black hole" left by the Tories as an excuse, how deep is this "black Hole" now!
I've no time for reform and particularly Farage, but the Country needs far better Governance than its getting now! |
The foreign aid budget and asylum budget is the same and totals less than £10 billion. The Chagos deal was started by the tories and has been shelved.
The country is in a state and needs change but making figures up out of thin air isn't going to help.
The financial black hole is obvious. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:14 - Sep 7 with 1171 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:23 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
You argument is getting ripped to shreds and looking less convincing by the hour. Perhaps it's best to just leave it there because you are doing more to promote Farage than discredit him, unless that is your aim. |
In what way is it being ripped to shreds? | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:22 - Sep 7 with 1159 views | Whiterockin |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:14 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
In what way is it being ripped to shreds? |
None so blind as those who do not wish to see. |  | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 13:02 - Sep 7 with 1117 views | blackswan |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:11 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
The foreign aid budget and asylum budget is the same and totals less than £10 billion. The Chagos deal was started by the tories and has been shelved.
The country is in a state and needs change but making figures up out of thin air isn't going to help.
The financial black hole is obvious. |
Scrap hs2 that will save 5 billion a year in interest payments so what if london to Manchester takes 15 mins more on vastly overpriced trains | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 15:58 - Sep 7 with 1033 views | howenjack |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 10:23 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
You argument is getting ripped to shreds and looking less convincing by the hour. Perhaps it's best to just leave it there because you are doing more to promote Farage than discredit him, unless that is your aim. |
Quote - mps get security paid for high risk mps get an increased level
Quote -That level of security is unusual for the leader of a perty with only 4 MPs (at the time) It's far more secrurity than Sir Ed Davey gets with 71 MPs
A complete contradiction , he obviously doesn't know what he's on about. | | | |
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:15 - Sep 7 with 1012 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:24 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin |
Personally I think that when someone is set up the majority of the British people can see right through it and they get more support than originally expected. In short it often backfires. Whether you support Farage or dislike him it is easy to see that the media are "doing a job" on him and it is working in his favor, much as Trump turned the negativity into a positive. |
Do you like Trump? | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:31 - Sep 7 with 1007 views | max936 |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 12:11 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
The foreign aid budget and asylum budget is the same and totals less than £10 billion. The Chagos deal was started by the tories and has been shelved.
The country is in a state and needs change but making figures up out of thin air isn't going to help.
The financial black hole is obvious. |
You brought up the 30 million pal, look back at your post, where's that 10 million figure come from that you posted, I can guarantee that, that figure is far higher?
Starmer agreed to give the Chagos Isle away and pay them over a 100 million a year so that Britton could use it, the fact its no shelved doesn't mean that it hasn't cost us millions, cause you can guarantee that it has 100%
"The financial black hole is obvious" no shit sherlock its because of the money that's being paid to keep these illegals and the enormous amount of foreign aid that we have paid out and the ridiculous £143 million give to Pakistan for contraception.
None are so blind as those that cannot see and there are those who don't want to see  | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:37 - Sep 7 with 1003 views | Whiterockin |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:15 - Sep 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Do you like Trump? |
No, I think he a dangerous idiot. But it appears the majority of voters in the USA do and that's what counts. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:44 - Sep 7 with 987 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 15:58 - Sep 7 by howenjack |
Quote - mps get security paid for high risk mps get an increased level
Quote -That level of security is unusual for the leader of a perty with only 4 MPs (at the time) It's far more secrurity than Sir Ed Davey gets with 71 MPs
A complete contradiction , he obviously doesn't know what he's on about. |
I think if anyone looks at the situation objectively they would see clearly that Farage is at far more risk of serious attack than Ed Davey. He’s been attacked several times before, gets death threats on a daily basis and one of his close associates has just been clubbed to death in her own kitchen.
I can’t think of an MP who would be at a higher risk of attack. Potentially Starmer because all sides seem to hate him. |  |
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 17:40 - Sep 7 with 965 views | AnotherJohn |
I would like to think that posters are right when they say the Chagos deal has been shelved. However, I wonder whether they noticed that just this week Wes Streeting reportedly said this was not the case.
https://www.gbnews.com/politic
It is also reported that Healey is factoring in an increased cost.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/mone [Post edited 7 Sep 17:48]
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:13 - Sep 7 with 929 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 17:40 - Sep 7 by AnotherJohn |
I would like to think that posters are right when they say the Chagos deal has been shelved. However, I wonder whether they noticed that just this week Wes Streeting reportedly said this was not the case.
https://www.gbnews.com/politic
It is also reported that Healey is factoring in an increased cost.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/mone [Post edited 7 Sep 17:48]
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I know it’s been done to death but it is absolute madness to give away what we already own and pay for the privilege to do so. How anybody in the modern world can think this is a good idea is beyond me. | |
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:28 - Sep 7 with 923 views | Boundy |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:13 - Sep 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I know it’s been done to death but it is absolute madness to give away what we already own and pay for the privilege to do so. How anybody in the modern world can think this is a good idea is beyond me. |
We’re being governed by absolute idiots , more than prepared to waste millions and giving away a vital part of our defence systems , no money for our armed forces, net zero and forcing our infrastructure to buy from abroad for the same fuel we could deliver ourselves, mealy mouthed words regarding the illegals , freedom of speech denied. , excessive prison sentences for comments made which 5 years ago wouldn’t have been noticed , welfare debt rising with the system near to collapse, all this under the watch of a political party and there some on here more concerned about one man whose not even in power. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:13 - Sep 7 with 902 views | howenjack |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:28 - Sep 7 by Boundy |
We’re being governed by absolute idiots , more than prepared to waste millions and giving away a vital part of our defence systems , no money for our armed forces, net zero and forcing our infrastructure to buy from abroad for the same fuel we could deliver ourselves, mealy mouthed words regarding the illegals , freedom of speech denied. , excessive prison sentences for comments made which 5 years ago wouldn’t have been noticed , welfare debt rising with the system near to collapse, all this under the watch of a political party and there some on here more concerned about one man whose not even in power. |
4000 job losses imminent at JLR Coventry
the same day that the chancellor Healey says GB has turned a corner economically
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:17 - Sep 7 with 897 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:31 - Sep 7 by max936 |
You brought up the 30 million pal, look back at your post, where's that 10 million figure come from that you posted, I can guarantee that, that figure is far higher?
Starmer agreed to give the Chagos Isle away and pay them over a 100 million a year so that Britton could use it, the fact its no shelved doesn't mean that it hasn't cost us millions, cause you can guarantee that it has 100%
"The financial black hole is obvious" no shit sherlock its because of the money that's being paid to keep these illegals and the enormous amount of foreign aid that we have paid out and the ridiculous £143 million give to Pakistan for contraception.
None are so blind as those that cannot see and there are those who don't want to see |
It's not higher.
https://commonslibrary.parliam
It's actually £9 billion. £2.5 billion of that is spent in the UK on asylum / refugees.
I brought it up because trying to cut tax income by £30 billion is obviously moronic when we haven't got the basic services we need to function as one of the richest countries in the world. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:19 - Sep 7 with 895 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:44 - Sep 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I think if anyone looks at the situation objectively they would see clearly that Farage is at far more risk of serious attack than Ed Davey. He’s been attacked several times before, gets death threats on a daily basis and one of his close associates has just been clubbed to death in her own kitchen.
I can’t think of an MP who would be at a higher risk of attack. Potentially Starmer because all sides seem to hate him. |
No doubt about it. It makes you wonder why he turned down the equivalent level of security offered to a cabinet minister and can't clearly demonstrate where his £5 million pound for life long security has been spent. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:31 - Sep 7 with 886 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 17:40 - Sep 7 by AnotherJohn |
I would like to think that posters are right when they say the Chagos deal has been shelved. However, I wonder whether they noticed that just this week Wes Streeting reportedly said this was not the case.
https://www.gbnews.com/politic
It is also reported that Healey is factoring in an increased cost.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/mone [Post edited 7 Sep 17:48]
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"Shelved" doesn't mean permanently stopped, just that's it's been paused to be re-evaluated. Who knows what'll happen next? Nevertheless, it's a deal initiated by the Tories and shelved by Labour. Blaming them for it at this stage is ludicrous, let's see what happens over the next three years. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:39 - Sep 7 with 878 views | Scotia |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 15:58 - Sep 7 by howenjack |
Quote - mps get security paid for high risk mps get an increased level
Quote -That level of security is unusual for the leader of a perty with only 4 MPs (at the time) It's far more secrurity than Sir Ed Davey gets with 71 MPs
A complete contradiction , he obviously doesn't know what he's on about. |
In what way is it a contradiction? Farage is higher risk than Ed Davey. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 20:36 - Sep 7 with 819 views | Demitrius |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:39 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
In what way is it a contradiction? Farage is higher risk than Ed Davey. |
The only risk to Ed Davey is Ed Davey himself the insufferable, pious, pointless tw@t...
https://www.itv.com/news/2024- |  |
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| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 21:17 - Sep 7 with 794 views | howenjack |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 19:39 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
In what way is it a contradiction? Farage is higher risk than Ed Davey. |
Yes of course hes higher risk than Ed Davy which makes it all the more strange you suggesting he hasnt spent the money on his security .If that was me I certainly would. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 15:38 - Sep 8 with 633 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 18:28 - Sep 7 by Boundy |
We’re being governed by absolute idiots , more than prepared to waste millions and giving away a vital part of our defence systems , no money for our armed forces, net zero and forcing our infrastructure to buy from abroad for the same fuel we could deliver ourselves, mealy mouthed words regarding the illegals , freedom of speech denied. , excessive prison sentences for comments made which 5 years ago wouldn’t have been noticed , welfare debt rising with the system near to collapse, all this under the watch of a political party and there some on here more concerned about one man whose not even in power. |
I don't like Tory. Labour or Libdem but I honestly think Farage wpuld be worse than all of them.
I've been saying it for a long time, whoever we vote for in the UK we are screwed because they are all a mixture of greedy, corrupt, self serving, negligent, incapable, thick people who are only after one thing really, feathering their own nests.
Maybe somebody can name a politician who is actually in it to serve the country but I can't think of one. | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:15 - Sep 8 with 618 views | JJBomber |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 15:38 - Sep 8 by SullutaCreturned |
I don't like Tory. Labour or Libdem but I honestly think Farage wpuld be worse than all of them.
I've been saying it for a long time, whoever we vote for in the UK we are screwed because they are all a mixture of greedy, corrupt, self serving, negligent, incapable, thick people who are only after one thing really, feathering their own nests.
Maybe somebody can name a politician who is actually in it to serve the country but I can't think of one. |
We did have Jacob Rees-Mogg, the only truly professional politician of our time. Needless to say, the British public voted him out and he's now a YouTube star! | | | |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 17:40 - Sep 8 with 574 views | onehunglow |
| Reform - surely this has to be the end? on 16:15 - Sep 8 by JJBomber |
We did have Jacob Rees-Mogg, the only truly professional politician of our time. Needless to say, the British public voted him out and he's now a YouTube star! |
He s English
Public school
Rich
Richer dad
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