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Social Security before the Nations Security 21:37 - Sep 9 with 1621 viewsmax936

You couldn't make it up, could you!

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 01:40 - Sep 10 with 1551 viewsRobbie

Well done and thanks Labour voters , more concerned at not upsetting their voting demographic that looking after the UK , votes are more important to us to stay comfy .

Labour got in after Bojo , a protest vote and an easy shoe in to No.10 and the big calls needed and necessary .

Burnham is Starmer in another disguise , same snake but different head .

I did note vote Reform or watch GB News either .
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 07:45 - Sep 10 with 1455 viewsDr_Winston

Burnham is considerably less competent than Starmer. He's less of an alien, which makes him relatable to the kind of idiot who still considers voting Labour, but intellectually he's far inferior.

There's no way that Starmer would have just come out and admitted that Labour don't actually give a shit about the defence of the country ahead of maintaining it's voter base of benefit recipients, public sector workers and migrants. He'd obviously support it, but he's not dumb enough to say so publically.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 07:56 - Sep 10 with 1438 viewsonehunglow

Votes
Power

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 08:33 - Sep 10 with 1425 viewsAnotherJohn

i was trying to recall whether there are any historical examples of countries that went down this route. I'd say it only applies to countries that have opted to accept small-state status, a policy of neutrality and little or no ambition to play a prominent role in shaping international affairs. Denmark and Sweden come to mind. However, these are two of the countries that are now waking up to their vulnerability in the light of Russian aggression, and rapidly increasing defence spending from under 2% to over 3% of GDP. Possibly the Republic of Ireland is another example of a country that thinks neutrality makes high spending on national security unnecessary. One could argue that it is unusual in that its geographical situation makes it possible (many would say parasitically) to rely on a neighbour for air and naval defence.
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 08:40 - Sep 10 with 1411 viewsonehunglow

Social Security before the Nations Security on 08:33 - Sep 10 by AnotherJohn

i was trying to recall whether there are any historical examples of countries that went down this route. I'd say it only applies to countries that have opted to accept small-state status, a policy of neutrality and little or no ambition to play a prominent role in shaping international affairs. Denmark and Sweden come to mind. However, these are two of the countries that are now waking up to their vulnerability in the light of Russian aggression, and rapidly increasing defence spending from under 2% to over 3% of GDP. Possibly the Republic of Ireland is another example of a country that thinks neutrality makes high spending on national security unnecessary. One could argue that it is unusual in that its geographical situation makes it possible (many would say parasitically) to rely on a neighbour for air and naval defence.


Morning
Loads of support for Andy over this
He’s a hero to the ( un) working classes
A northern Corbyn

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:12 - Sep 10 with 1387 viewsBoundy

Social Security before the Nations Security on 08:40 - Sep 10 by onehunglow

Morning
Loads of support for Andy over this
He’s a hero to the ( un) working classes
A northern Corbyn


If as an example we became a satallite state of Russia , Chagos , Israel or the US who Burnham seems determined to upset will the work shy still get the same benifits . Strange wasn more worrying that the defence of the realm is deemed less importatnt than keeping the feckless in realtive comfort.Fight for this country , sorry mate that boat longed sailed away,Labour must know and please god let it become that they won't get another chance of extending their current reign and doing their best to destroy this country .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:24 - Sep 10 with 1366 viewsonehunglow

Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:12 - Sep 10 by Boundy

If as an example we became a satallite state of Russia , Chagos , Israel or the US who Burnham seems determined to upset will the work shy still get the same benifits . Strange wasn more worrying that the defence of the realm is deemed less importatnt than keeping the feckless in realtive comfort.Fight for this country , sorry mate that boat longed sailed away,Labour must know and please god let it become that they won't get another chance of extending their current reign and doing their best to destroy this country .


We’re visiting wife’s sister here
Her frcklddd son and girlfriend lives with her
Her family of seven are all
On benefits
It’s a culture they are brought up onto and we must break this circle
It’s about votes for Andy though
Nothing more
Stomach turning
One has AdHd and gets £3000 per month
State keeps them all

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:44 - Sep 10 with 1355 viewshowenjack

It will be the height of hypocrisy when he places a wreath at the cenotaph on remembrance day
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 20:59 - Sep 11 with 1178 viewsSullutaCreturned

He doesn't say it comes before, he said national security can't come at the expense of social security. It's a subtle difference.

Besides there is nothing wrong with a well governed, well regulated and well managed social security system, our problem is, ours is none of those!

On the other side, our national security is also in the hands of dipshits.
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:00 - Sep 12 with 1056 viewsBoundy

Social Security before the Nations Security on 20:59 - Sep 11 by SullutaCreturned

He doesn't say it comes before, he said national security can't come at the expense of social security. It's a subtle difference.

Besides there is nothing wrong with a well governed, well regulated and well managed social security system, our problem is, ours is none of those!

On the other side, our national security is also in the hands of dipshits.


His words "I don't think, myself, that taking £4bn out of housing benefit is going to get the right consensus around this issue because that would create levels of homelessness in this country... that we wouldn't have seen before, hundreds of thousands of children in temporary accommodation," he said.

"Yes, we do everything to support our national security, but it can't come at the expense of social security."

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 11:53 - Sep 12 with 999 viewsDr_Winston

Housing wouldn't cost so much, and therefore housing benefit wouldn't cost so much, if our Beloved Governments of all hues hadn't spent most of the last 30 years rapidly inflating the UK population without a commensurate increase in the housing supply.

For the same reason that basically every public service is struggling. Demand has increased without a supporting increase in tax revenue. We're importing people to sit on benefits in social housing instead of working as we were told that they would be. It's insane.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 11:59 - Sep 12 with 996 viewsBoundy

Social Security before the Nations Security on 11:53 - Sep 12 by Dr_Winston

Housing wouldn't cost so much, and therefore housing benefit wouldn't cost so much, if our Beloved Governments of all hues hadn't spent most of the last 30 years rapidly inflating the UK population without a commensurate increase in the housing supply.

For the same reason that basically every public service is struggling. Demand has increased without a supporting increase in tax revenue. We're importing people to sit on benefits in social housing instead of working as we were told that they would be. It's insane.


The tax burden is nearly the highest post war with 37% of GDP , I’m not sure as I posted elsewhere how much more the taxpayer (yes as the sensible know it’s the taxpayer who generates the wealth despite the left screaming for the richest to be taxed even more ) can absorb

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 12:05 - Sep 12 with 988 viewsDr_Winston

There is a plausible theory (based on things like active SIM cards, sewage outflow etc) that suggests the UK population is actually 10m+ more than the Government acknowledges.

Those 10m people have to live somewhere. Usually in HMO's that used to be family housing, or crammed into council accommodation. One of the unspoken questions about the Grenfell Fire is how many people were really in the building and how many were the actual tenants.

Most will also be working in the black economy and therefore paying absolutely no tax or NI.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:32 - Sep 13 with 859 viewsAnotherJohn

It doesn't help that 200,000 families on benefits get more than £39K a year. This comes from a Government answer to a written question.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news

https://questions-statements.p
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 10:46 - Sep 13 with 837 viewsDr_Winston

Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:32 - Sep 13 by AnotherJohn

It doesn't help that 200,000 families on benefits get more than £39K a year. This comes from a Government answer to a written question.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news

https://questions-statements.p


Means tested Benefits should be capped to about 75% of the same rate as a full time job on NMW. PIP can continue to be paid as it is and income disregarded so those with disabilities have protection, but otherwise not.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Social Security before the Nations Security on 10:49 - Sep 13 with 833 viewspete

Social Security before the Nations Security on 09:24 - Sep 10 by onehunglow

We’re visiting wife’s sister here
Her frcklddd son and girlfriend lives with her
Her family of seven are all
On benefits
It’s a culture they are brought up onto and we must break this circle
It’s about votes for Andy though
Nothing more
Stomach turning
One has AdHd and gets £3000 per month
State keeps them all


thats the problem no incentive to work when getting a lot for nothing but ALL parties wont do anything about it as it would lose votes
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 10:54 - Sep 13 with 830 viewspete

Social Security before the Nations Security on 20:59 - Sep 11 by SullutaCreturned

He doesn't say it comes before, he said national security can't come at the expense of social security. It's a subtle difference.

Besides there is nothing wrong with a well governed, well regulated and well managed social security system, our problem is, ours is none of those!

On the other side, our national security is also in the hands of dipshits.


government could re start national service for those fit enough if out of work for a period of time and do not find a job that might help both sides social security claims down and national security up
wont happen as a vote loser
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 13:53 - Sep 13 with 774 viewshowenjack

Social Security before the Nations Security on 12:05 - Sep 12 by Dr_Winston

There is a plausible theory (based on things like active SIM cards, sewage outflow etc) that suggests the UK population is actually 10m+ more than the Government acknowledges.

Those 10m people have to live somewhere. Usually in HMO's that used to be family housing, or crammed into council accommodation. One of the unspoken questions about the Grenfell Fire is how many people were really in the building and how many were the actual tenants.

Most will also be working in the black economy and therefore paying absolutely no tax or NI.


Southall in London used to be renowned for multiple occupants living in "sheds" at the bottom of gardens usually with Asian landlords . Dont know if its as bad as it was but wouldnt be surprised.
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Social Security before the Nations Security on 14:28 - Sep 13 with 765 viewsSullutaCreturned

Social Security before the Nations Security on 10:54 - Sep 13 by pete

government could re start national service for those fit enough if out of work for a period of time and do not find a job that might help both sides social security claims down and national security up
wont happen as a vote loser


I'm totally in favour of national service. Teach youngsters discipline but more importantly, teach them skills too.

The way things are today though young people would run away before signing up, the thought of a war with Russia let alone all the other nonsense going on would see them in hiding.
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