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Know them by their friends 08:15 - Sep 14 with 5012 viewsAnotherJohn

Plaid will meet leaders of Sinn Fein and the SNP in Cardiff. The old saying, “Be careful what you wish for” is true enough, but too many Welsh people need to be careful what they vote for when it brings something they did not wish for.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news

It will be interesting to hear what emerges from the conference of the woke.
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Know them by their friends on 18:21 - Sep 14 with 803 views1983

Know them by their friends on 10:08 - Sep 14 by Boundy

You're extremely niave if you think the problems of a united Ireland is over . The only thing atm which is uniting the folk of the north is the threat of illegal immigration .


Absolutely bang on..

I went to Belfast earlier this year and done "The troubles" tour on Falls road and Shankill and both loyal and republian tour guides said that the illegal imagrant problem are uniting both sides, they all said both sides want the "peace" wall taken down so they can carry on with thier lives but the government want it up.

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Know them by their friends on 19:04 - Sep 14 with 769 viewsblackswan

Plaid need to wake up and smell the coffee the only reason they are in power was because Labour lost the plot were total crap and didn't listen to the people.
The announcement is extremely divisive at a time when the uk has real issues.
21 per cent in favour of independence last poll it's a non starter
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Know them by their friends on 19:07 - Sep 14 with 760 viewsonehunglow

Know them by their friends on 18:02 - Sep 14 by SullutaCreturned

There are genetic differences, google it, or here,

Key Genetic DivisionsNo single "Celtic" group: Populations in Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, and Northern Ireland are genetically distinct from one another rather than forming one uniform non-English group. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 Welsh are the most distinct: People in Wales carry DNA closest to the earliest post-ice-age settlers of the British Isles and lack major Anglo-Saxon or continental shifts seen elsewhere. Even North and South Wales show clear internal genetic differences. [1] ( https://peopleofthebritishisle [2] ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ [3] ( https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wa [4] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 homogeneity: Central, southern, and eastern England form a large, relatively uniform genetic cluster showing 10% to 40% Anglo-Saxon ancestry mixed with native populations. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 and Devon: Cornwall behaves as a separate genetic group divided cleanly along county lines from Devon. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 and Shetland: The Northern Isles are the most genetically isolated and distinct in the UK, with Orkney showing roughly 25% Norwegian Viking ancestry. [1] ( https://viking.ed.ac.uk/resear [2] ( https://wellcome.org/press-rel [3] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015


So my grand kids are different to me ?
Sorry !
Post ice age
That far back
So I am pure bred Welsh whereas my Rnglish bred wife who has a Cadwalader mother might be mixed
Nah
I do t believe in pure blood
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Know them by their friends on 19:33 - Sep 14 with 745 viewsJJBomber

Know them by their friends on 19:04 - Sep 14 by blackswan

Plaid need to wake up and smell the coffee the only reason they are in power was because Labour lost the plot were total crap and didn't listen to the people.
The announcement is extremely divisive at a time when the uk has real issues.
21 per cent in favour of independence last poll it's a non starter


If there was a vote on the Senedd, I'm sure it would be abolished. a very expensive talking shop. The other interesting one would be a vote by the english to get rid of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I'm sure that the yes vote would prevail.
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Know them by their friends on 19:49 - Sep 14 with 718 viewsunion_jack

Know them by their friends on 19:33 - Sep 14 by JJBomber

If there was a vote on the Senedd, I'm sure it would be abolished. a very expensive talking shop. The other interesting one would be a vote by the english to get rid of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I'm sure that the yes vote would prevail.


If voting was mandatory you’d be right. Unfortunately not enough can be bothered apart from those who are pro Senedd / independence. Apathy rules and costs.

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Know them by their friends on 20:57 - Sep 14 with 673 viewsSullutaCreturned

Know them by their friends on 19:07 - Sep 14 by onehunglow

So my grand kids are different to me ?
Sorry !
Post ice age
That far back
So I am pure bred Welsh whereas my Rnglish bred wife who has a Cadwalader mother might be mixed
Nah
I do t believe in pure blood
[Post edited 14 Sep 19:10]


That's the point, there will be very little pure blood anywhere, we all carry DNA from a lot of places.in Wales alone there's Italian, Spanish, Norse and Germanic just to start with.

We are all a mix. Our genetic make up is a jigsaw puzzle.
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Know them by their friends on 21:06 - Sep 14 with 650 viewsbuilthjack

If the Scots go independent, Cymru will soon follow.
But I can’t see it happening in the next 20 years.

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Know them by their friends on 21:22 - Sep 14 with 636 viewsjack_lord

My wish is more simple.
I wish our land to be called Briton
Never again then would I have to here those shallow, almost moronic words "back in England".
Our DNA shows us what we are and are more closely related than many would like.
It would get rid of those telling us we shouldn't be playing in an english league as well.

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Know them by their friends on 22:48 - Sep 14 with 577 viewsReslovenSwan1

Know them by their friends on 19:33 - Sep 14 by JJBomber

If there was a vote on the Senedd, I'm sure it would be abolished. a very expensive talking shop. The other interesting one would be a vote by the english to get rid of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I'm sure that the yes vote would prevail.


Things people do not like are always too expensive. It's an excuse. The fact is you do not like Welsh semi self determination and would prefer to be run by an Englishman in the Welsh office which was also very expensive.

We have privileges because our ancestors fought for them. They fought to be different from the English. That is the way it is. If we surrender we give up international sports teams like the national football team and other international cultural events. This will cost us billions. We have apathetic Welsh that favour surrender and anonymity. They want Wales to hide under a stone.

They are barely Welsh at all. They cannot even be arsed at least respect their own culture. They want to become the new Cumbria. God help us. Cymru am byth.

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Know them by their friends on 22:53 - Sep 14 with 570 viewsReslovenSwan1

Know them by their friends on 21:22 - Sep 14 by jack_lord

My wish is more simple.
I wish our land to be called Briton
Never again then would I have to here those shallow, almost moronic words "back in England".
Our DNA shows us what we are and are more closely related than many would like.
It would get rid of those telling us we shouldn't be playing in an english league as well.


The English quite rightly not accept it. Tomas Tuchel leads out Team GB at Wembley to God save the King.

Ingerland the fan's chant. They always did and always will . God bless them they have more backbone than some feeble Welsh on here.

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Know them by their friends on 23:07 - Sep 14 with 561 viewsmax936

Know them by their friends on 19:04 - Sep 14 by blackswan

Plaid need to wake up and smell the coffee the only reason they are in power was because Labour lost the plot were total crap and didn't listen to the people.
The announcement is extremely divisive at a time when the uk has real issues.
21 per cent in favour of independence last poll it's a non starter


That's all Ron the talking horse Jones talks about he's not interested in what Wales or its people need and the neglect in public services is still going on, despite him promising to make the changes needed.
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Know them by their friends on 23:10 - Sep 14 with 557 viewsmax936

Know them by their friends on 19:49 - Sep 14 by union_jack

If voting was mandatory you’d be right. Unfortunately not enough can be bothered apart from those who are pro Senedd / independence. Apathy rules and costs.


I'd be first at the voting box, if there was a vote to abolish the place and put that building that's in a prime position to better use.
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Know them by their friends on 07:52 - Sep 15 with 444 viewsjack_lord

Know them by their friends on 23:10 - Sep 14 by max936

I'd be first at the voting box, if there was a vote to abolish the place and put that building that's in a prime position to better use.


and that's another thing - it really wasn't a prime position before devolution and Cardiff decided that it was going to swallow all the money

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Know them by their friends on 09:01 - Sep 15 with 410 viewsWhiterockin

Know them by their friends on 23:10 - Sep 14 by max936

I'd be first at the voting box, if there was a vote to abolish the place and put that building that's in a prime position to better use.


Just have a two question referendum,no frills just basic questions.

1) Do you want independence for Wales.

2) Do you want to abolish the Senedd and hand power back to Westminster.

Who could possibly object to finding out exactly what the Welsh voters want.
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Know them by their friends on 09:11 - Sep 15 with 392 viewsunion_jack

Know them by their friends on 23:10 - Sep 14 by max936

I'd be first at the voting box, if there was a vote to abolish the place and put that building that's in a prime position to better use.


Only if I didn’t get there before you.

But we are switched on to what’s going on. Many aren’t and I wonder how many if those apathetic people wouldn’t vote. It should be mandatory.

Aldo, as I’ve said before, to change the status quo should not be a 50%+ margin but at least 65% to cater for the apathy.That didn’t happen in 1997 but should have. IF there is ever a ]n independence referendum God forbid then it should be amended.
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Know them by their friends on 09:20 - Sep 15 with 385 viewsraynor94

Know them by their friends on 21:06 - Sep 14 by builthjack

If the Scots go independent, Cymru will soon follow.
But I can’t see it happening in the next 20 years.


Well thankfully it won't happen in my lifetime then, Plaid have already given us a glimpse of independence frightening

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Know them by their friends on 09:28 - Sep 15 with 376 viewsonehunglow

Know them by their friends on 09:20 - Sep 15 by raynor94

Well thankfully it won't happen in my lifetime then, Plaid have already given us a glimpse of independence frightening


It really is a grotesque prospect but will never happen
Sein Fein support is simply sickening

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Know them by their friends on 09:45 - Sep 15 with 370 viewsunion_jack

Know them by their friends on 09:28 - Sep 15 by onehunglow

It really is a grotesque prospect but will never happen
Sein Fein support is simply sickening


Any call for a referendum needs to be quashed by the Government just like Spain have done with the Basque region. It’s not in anyone’s interest and those who want it are blinded by some romantic notion that paradise due to freedom from the oppressive English 🤣🤣🤣 will ensue. This is Middle Ages thinking.

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Know them by their friends on 10:28 - Sep 15 with 347 viewsonehunglow

Know them by their friends on 09:45 - Sep 15 by union_jack

Any call for a referendum needs to be quashed by the Government just like Spain have done with the Basque region. It’s not in anyone’s interest and those who want it are blinded by some romantic notion that paradise due to freedom from the oppressive English 🤣🤣🤣 will ensue. This is Middle Ages thinking.


Morning
But that’s just it
They are stuck on Middle Ages mind set when Wales and England were joined by Act of Union
We’re talking 500 yrs ago
It’s that backward
Seon Fein slaughtered OUR people but mainly English ones
Had their bombs hit Waunarlydd rather than Warrington maybe people would think different

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Know them by their friends on 10:47 - Sep 15 with 333 viewsunion_jack

Of course, Piddington in Oxfordshire may beat them all to it🤣🤣🤣

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Know them by their friends on 10:49 - Sep 15 with 332 viewsDemitrius

Know them by their friends on 20:57 - Sep 14 by SullutaCreturned

That's the point, there will be very little pure blood anywhere, we all carry DNA from a lot of places.in Wales alone there's Italian, Spanish, Norse and Germanic just to start with.

We are all a mix. Our genetic make up is a jigsaw puzzle.


I did one of those DNA tests a few years back as OHL will testify I've got the lick of the tarbrush about me and was expecting to uncover something exotic but nope 60% Celtic Brythonic(Irish, Welsh Scots) 39.8% Anglo-Saxon. Until the 1970s when immigration started ramping up that ratio in variations 50/50 40/60 60/40 would have been typical for most x-sections of people living on the British mainland because we have been cut off from mainland Europe for millennia and have moved around and interbred in that time. There are only really 5 main Y-DNA Haplogroups for Britain and Ireland and one of them is probably a leftover from Roman times they were only here for a few hundred years but they left a genetic footprint from all corners of their empire. The 0.2% was Middle Eastern and likely a part of this Roman footprint.

Genetics is a fascinating and complex subject and you're right a jigsaw puzzle with distinct genetic markers and then various subgroups. There is a common marker in Wales that is shared with Eire and Scotland but there are also differences between North and South Wales and then you have the Landsker influence of the Normans in the South West.
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Know them by their friends on 10:50 - Sep 15 with 329 viewsWhiterockin

Know them by their friends on 09:45 - Sep 15 by union_jack

Any call for a referendum needs to be quashed by the Government just like Spain have done with the Basque region. It’s not in anyone’s interest and those who want it are blinded by some romantic notion that paradise due to freedom from the oppressive English 🤣🤣🤣 will ensue. This is Middle Ages thinking.


What is wrong with a referendum Wales will vote no to independence, throw in a referendum on keeping the Senedd and its job done, give the people what they want, not what the Senedd wishes to impose on the Welsh public.
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Know them by their friends on 10:52 - Sep 15 with 325 viewsWhiterockin

Know them by their friends on 10:49 - Sep 15 by Demitrius

I did one of those DNA tests a few years back as OHL will testify I've got the lick of the tarbrush about me and was expecting to uncover something exotic but nope 60% Celtic Brythonic(Irish, Welsh Scots) 39.8% Anglo-Saxon. Until the 1970s when immigration started ramping up that ratio in variations 50/50 40/60 60/40 would have been typical for most x-sections of people living on the British mainland because we have been cut off from mainland Europe for millennia and have moved around and interbred in that time. There are only really 5 main Y-DNA Haplogroups for Britain and Ireland and one of them is probably a leftover from Roman times they were only here for a few hundred years but they left a genetic footprint from all corners of their empire. The 0.2% was Middle Eastern and likely a part of this Roman footprint.

Genetics is a fascinating and complex subject and you're right a jigsaw puzzle with distinct genetic markers and then various subgroups. There is a common marker in Wales that is shared with Eire and Scotland but there are also differences between North and South Wales and then you have the Landsker influence of the Normans in the South West.
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Until the ghost of Christmas past contacts you.
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Know them by their friends on 10:56 - Sep 15 with 322 viewsunion_jack

Know them by their friends on 10:50 - Sep 15 by Whiterockin

What is wrong with a referendum Wales will vote no to independence, throw in a referendum on keeping the Senedd and its job done, give the people what they want, not what the Senedd wishes to impose on the Welsh public.


It could happen because of a glitch in public opinion. Hence one of the reasons that it should be a 2:1 majority not 50:50.

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Know them by their friends on 11:02 - Sep 15 with 316 viewsWhiterockin

Know them by their friends on 10:56 - Sep 15 by union_jack

It could happen because of a glitch in public opinion. Hence one of the reasons that it should be a 2:1 majority not 50:50.


There is more chance of an abolish the Senedd vote than one for independence.
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