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Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 256136 viewsEllDale

They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about?
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:31 - Mar 6 with 2371 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 12:48 - Mar 6 by TVOS1907

You've missed the point.

The thread has been hijacked by someone with an agenda, which James seemed to have missed, so his comment about the pitch would have been an open goal for the WUM.

I too have no interest in rugby, never have and never will and while the pitch has clearly suffered from it in the past and may well do in the future, it was best kept out of this debate.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 12:50]


An agenda?

Feel free to correct anything I’ve said which isn’t true and not in the public domain in Rochdale.
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:37 - Mar 6 with 2338 viewsTVOS1907

Hornets on Sunday on 13:31 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

An agenda?

Feel free to correct anything I’ve said which isn’t true and not in the public domain in Rochdale.


You know full well what you're doing and so do we.

How are details of the private wealth of individuals and details of agreements between the two clubs in the public domain?

As you posted: "Wouldn't have a clue about the personal wealth of individuals in either business and not really interested.

Also, "There are no accounts posted for Hornets so again not a clue."


Must try harder.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:40]

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Hornets on Sunday on 13:49 - Mar 6 with 2299 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 13:37 - Mar 6 by TVOS1907

You know full well what you're doing and so do we.

How are details of the private wealth of individuals and details of agreements between the two clubs in the public domain?

As you posted: "Wouldn't have a clue about the personal wealth of individuals in either business and not really interested.

Also, "There are no accounts posted for Hornets so again not a clue."


Must try harder.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:40]


I did state I clearly didn’t know detail / information you are nit picking at.

Anything else?
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:51 - Mar 6 with 2298 viewsJames1980

Hornets on Sunday on 13:24 - Mar 6 by TVOS1907

Good to see you yesterday, too, albeit from a distance.


Likewise

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Hornets on Sunday on 13:57 - Mar 6 with 2280 viewsD_Alien

Hornets on Sunday on 13:51 - Mar 6 by James1980

Likewise


Does that mean, it was good to see TVOS, or good to see him from a distance?

[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:57]

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Hornets on Sunday on 13:57 - Mar 6 with 2276 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 13:49 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I did state I clearly didn’t know detail / information you are nit picking at.

Anything else?


You’re not willing to answer questions so why should people answer yours?
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:59 - Mar 6 with 2268 viewsD_Alien

Hornets on Sunday on 13:27 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

All fair comment.

I have heard that Hornets are fully up to date with payments and there are no issues on that score and indeed haven’t been for many years.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:29]


I guess that's why they went into administration?

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Hornets on Sunday on 14:01 - Mar 6 with 2259 viewsJames1980

Hornets on Sunday on 13:57 - Mar 6 by D_Alien

Does that mean, it was good to see TVOS, or good to see him from a distance?

[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:57]


Always good to see the maestro

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Hornets on Sunday on 14:05 - Mar 6 with 2245 viewsTVOS1907

Hornets on Sunday on 13:49 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I did state I clearly didn’t know detail / information you are nit picking at.

Anything else?


So your last post wasn't quite correct then.

Keep trying, you'll get there eventually.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Hornets on Sunday on 14:05 - Mar 6 with 2240 viewsTVOS1907

Hornets on Sunday on 13:57 - Mar 6 by D_Alien

Does that mean, it was good to see TVOS, or good to see him from a distance?

[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 13:57]


Both, I would imagine.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Hornets on Sunday on 14:47 - Mar 6 with 2189 views442Dale

Hornets on Sunday on 12:51 - Mar 6 by D_Alien

Not at all rude, just plain speaking as we do in Rochdale

I'll restate, Dale need to be seen to be supportive of their tenants (i don't mean in a financial way, but certainly in terms of morale) during a period when we're asking for both financial and moral support from the football world, and the wider world including administrators of the game and politicians. That includes local politicians, many of whom support Hornets

If Hornets can't pay their way in terms of agreements set out following their reformation a couple of years back, my opinion is that Dale should do all they can to be supportive without incurring any financial disadvantage. That's the minimum i would expect


This sums things up well.

We cannot give individuals or organisations who will look for any sort of small opportunity to create division or unrest opportunities to do so. This could be football results or age old problems that some can’t let go. It’s been illustrated that when nonsensical statements are made with no facts to back them up, they have to be backtracked upon so there can be no reason to give actual ammunition to those seeking to cause issues.

There is a responsibility on all involved to work towards positive solutions, if this is achieved it will be a further example of why we are held in such high regard as a football club.

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Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Mar 6 with 2103 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 13:59 - Mar 6 by D_Alien

I guess that's why they went into administration?


Administration when?
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:53 - Mar 6 with 2094 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Administration when?


When you last answered a question, pumpkin.
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:56 - Mar 6 with 2074 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 15:53 - Mar 6 by kel

When you last answered a question, pumpkin.


😘
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Hornets on Sunday on 15:58 - Mar 6 with 2059 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 15:56 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

😘


Yep, still dodging. You had a good run for an hour or so last week but it didn’t take long to work out your motives.

Even pops was better than you.
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:01 - Mar 6 with 2053 viewsD_Alien

Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Administration when?


https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hornets-in-administra

This, from 2010 (updated 2013)

If what happened turned out differently, no problem, i don't follow their business THAT closely

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Hornets on Sunday on 16:07 - Mar 6 with 2025 viewsPlattyswrinklynuts

Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Administration when?


13 Jan 2009, according to the Rochdale Hornets Wikipedia page…
I also believe that inviting messrs Mazey & his co directors into the club in 2019 was to stave off admin for a 2nd time…
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 16:54]
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:17 - Mar 6 with 1973 viewskel

Morning Glory is having a fooking mare here 😂😂😂
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:44 - Mar 6 with 1915 viewsnordenblue

Hornets on Sunday on 16:17 - Mar 6 by kel

Morning Glory is having a fooking mare here 😂😂😂


Not really too much "glory" for him
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:57 - Mar 6 with 1887 viewsRAFCBLUE

Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Administration when?


I think all real Hornets fans know about the administrations, but for RG's benefit, here's a brief history recap.

PHASE 1: THE ORIGINAL HORNETS 1906 to 2010.

The proper Rochdale Hornets was founded in August 1906, before the football club. It won the Challenge Cup in 1922. As Super League came in the 1990's it limped along and in January 2009 went to administration. It was dissolved completely in April 2010.

On dissolution, the administrators noted an expected shortfall to creditors of £628,041 which they filed following a meeting of creditors in May 2009.

Rochdale Hornets Football Club Company Limited (registered company: 00089733)
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00089733/fili

PHASE 2: THE COOPERATIVE SOCIETY ROCHDALE HORNETS 2009 to 2020

Whilst all that was ongoing, in January 2009, Rochdale Hornets formed a new mutual society called "Rochdale Hornets Rugby Football League Club Society Limited"

The last published set of accounts - to 30 November 2019 - showed that this has net liabilities of £140,551. All of the accounts are available at the link.

Rochdale Hornets Football Club Company Limited (Society registration number: 30618R)
https://mutuals.fca.org.uk/Search/Society/10758

PHASE 3a: THE CURRENT ROCHDALE HORNETS - COMPANY 1 2020 onwards

On 10 March 2020, Rochdale Hornets Rugby Football League Club Limited was formed by five new individual shareholders:
* Richard Heyes
* Andrew Paul Mazey
* Paul Andrew Ormerod
* Anthony John Sheridan
* Peter Leslie Smith

This company then changes its name on 15 June 2020 to "Hornets Rugby League Club Limited"

This company claims to be dormant and is worth £100.

Hornets Rugby League Club Limited (registered company: 12509861)
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12509861/fili

PHASE 3b: THE CURRENT ROCHDALE HORNETS - COMPANY 2 - 2020 onwards

On 15 June 2020 a new company was formed by five new individual shareholders:
* Richard Heyes
* Andrew Paul Mazey
* Paul Andrew Ormerod
* Anthony John Sheridan
* Peter Leslie Smith

This new company has traded since June 2020 and is due to file accounts for the period to November 2021 by 15 March 2022.

The financial position is therefore unknown until published at Companies House.

Rochdale Hornets Rugby League Football Club Limited (registered company 12673168):
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12673168

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Hornets on Sunday on 17:17 - Mar 6 with 1837 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 16:57 - Mar 6 by RAFCBLUE

I think all real Hornets fans know about the administrations, but for RG's benefit, here's a brief history recap.

PHASE 1: THE ORIGINAL HORNETS 1906 to 2010.

The proper Rochdale Hornets was founded in August 1906, before the football club. It won the Challenge Cup in 1922. As Super League came in the 1990's it limped along and in January 2009 went to administration. It was dissolved completely in April 2010.

On dissolution, the administrators noted an expected shortfall to creditors of £628,041 which they filed following a meeting of creditors in May 2009.

Rochdale Hornets Football Club Company Limited (registered company: 00089733)
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00089733/fili

PHASE 2: THE COOPERATIVE SOCIETY ROCHDALE HORNETS 2009 to 2020

Whilst all that was ongoing, in January 2009, Rochdale Hornets formed a new mutual society called "Rochdale Hornets Rugby Football League Club Society Limited"

The last published set of accounts - to 30 November 2019 - showed that this has net liabilities of £140,551. All of the accounts are available at the link.

Rochdale Hornets Football Club Company Limited (Society registration number: 30618R)
https://mutuals.fca.org.uk/Search/Society/10758

PHASE 3a: THE CURRENT ROCHDALE HORNETS - COMPANY 1 2020 onwards

On 10 March 2020, Rochdale Hornets Rugby Football League Club Limited was formed by five new individual shareholders:
* Richard Heyes
* Andrew Paul Mazey
* Paul Andrew Ormerod
* Anthony John Sheridan
* Peter Leslie Smith

This company then changes its name on 15 June 2020 to "Hornets Rugby League Club Limited"

This company claims to be dormant and is worth £100.

Hornets Rugby League Club Limited (registered company: 12509861)
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12509861/fili

PHASE 3b: THE CURRENT ROCHDALE HORNETS - COMPANY 2 - 2020 onwards

On 15 June 2020 a new company was formed by five new individual shareholders:
* Richard Heyes
* Andrew Paul Mazey
* Paul Andrew Ormerod
* Anthony John Sheridan
* Peter Leslie Smith

This new company has traded since June 2020 and is due to file accounts for the period to November 2021 by 15 March 2022.

The financial position is therefore unknown until published at Companies House.

Rochdale Hornets Rugby League Football Club Limited (registered company 12673168):
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12673168


So since the current lease agreements came into effect and we took ownership of the asset there hasn’t been an administration or insolvency.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now I’m not a betting man but on current form I’d say there would be a greater chance of us going into admin than them.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:21 - Mar 6 with 1819 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:17 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

So since the current lease agreements came into effect and we took ownership of the asset there hasn’t been an administration or insolvency.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now I’m not a betting man but on current form I’d say there would be a greater chance of us going into admin than them.


“Administration when?”

Proved to him and then changed the goalposts.

This one is proper ace 😂😂😂😂😂
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:29 - Mar 6 with 1784 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:17 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

So since the current lease agreements came into effect and we took ownership of the asset there hasn’t been an administration or insolvency.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now I’m not a betting man but on current form I’d say there would be a greater chance of us going into admin than them.


While I’m on, what’s your theory behind that?

Bet you don’t answer.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:33 - Mar 6 with 1768 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 17:21 - Mar 6 by kel

“Administration when?”

Proved to him and then changed the goalposts.

This one is proper ace 😂😂😂😂😂


I presumed reference was being made to a recent admin or insolvency act that I hadn’t heard about but that’s been cleared up.

I wasn’t aware the referee to admin was going back decades…….
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:40 - Mar 6 with 1753 viewsD_Alien

Hornets on Sunday on 17:33 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I presumed reference was being made to a recent admin or insolvency act that I hadn’t heard about but that’s been cleared up.

I wasn’t aware the referee to admin was going back decades…….


Referee?

I'm no whistleblower, but your claim that Hornets have paid their bills for "many" years needed calling out

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