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REFEREE: TOM NIELD: Has been Referee twice & 4th Official 4 times at the Stadium
ASSISTANT: GEORGE BYRNE: Has been an Assistant 8 times at the Stadium
ASSISTANT: DAVID HARRISON : Has been an Assistant 3 times at the Stadium
4th OFFICIAL: OLLIE YATES : Has been 4th Official 10 times at the Stadium
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:49 - Jan 17 with 1828 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:36 - Jan 17 by SgorioFruit |
Absolutely, took our foot off the gas. Let them score when warning signs were there. Should have killed the game.
Yes we were dogshite second half.
To answer your question, don’t take our foot off the gas, don’t let them score when the warning signs were there and Mr Sad will be happy.
Being a swans fan and all that, wanting the swans to win. [Post edited 17 Jan 21:37]
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It’s not taking the foot off the gas, it’s burning out.
Widdell and Franco are being asked to play high intensity pressing game. The amount of times they turned Birmingham over in decent positions was phenomenal.
I don’t think we’ll get 90 minutes out of either of them very often, at least not a that intensity. That role is so demanding.
The trick is winning the game before that point. We created enough chances | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:53 - Jan 17 with 1799 views | SgorioFruit |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 19:27 - Jan 17 by union_jack |
Bloody awful second half. We looked clueless and AGAIN outmuscled in the midfield and hardly won a header. Had that game by the scruff of the neck but again didn’t take our chances and paid for some sloppy defence.
The engines in some of those Birmingham players are huge though. Sprinting every time we had the ball in defence to close us down.
Really disappointed after that sorry to say. |
Top posting.
Although I don’t think you’re allowed to have that opinion on here. Got to be happy with every game and every decision by all accounts.
Ref didn’t help granted.
Vipotnik off for Cullen? Head scratcher.
But it’s ok, can’t criticise anything remember. |  |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:54 - Jan 17 with 1788 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:49 - Jan 17 by jack247 |
It’s not taking the foot off the gas, it’s burning out.
Widdell and Franco are being asked to play high intensity pressing game. The amount of times they turned Birmingham over in decent positions was phenomenal.
I don’t think we’ll get 90 minutes out of either of them very often, at least not a that intensity. That role is so demanding.
The trick is winning the game before that point. We created enough chances |
Exactly. There are those who understand football and those who don't. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:56 - Jan 17 with 1760 views | SgorioFruit |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:49 - Jan 17 by jack247 |
It’s not taking the foot off the gas, it’s burning out.
Widdell and Franco are being asked to play high intensity pressing game. The amount of times they turned Birmingham over in decent positions was phenomenal.
I don’t think we’ll get 90 minutes out of either of them very often, at least not a that intensity. That role is so demanding.
The trick is winning the game before that point. We created enough chances |
You hit the nail square on the head, trick is winning the game before that. | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:57 - Jan 17 with 1735 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:53 - Jan 17 by SgorioFruit |
Top posting.
Although I don’t think you’re allowed to have that opinion on here. Got to be happy with every game and every decision by all accounts.
Ref didn’t help granted.
Vipotnik off for Cullen? Head scratcher.
But it’s ok, can’t criticise anything remember. |
Again, Vipotnik came off because he ran himself into the ground.
With Idah out for a while, we need to loan a striker who can play the physical role. Cullen can press well enough, but he’s never going to compete physically with centre backs.
His role should be coming on for Widdell for 20/25 minutes, playing behind a physical striker, not competing for long balls. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:58 - Jan 17 with 1720 views | JJBomber |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 19:30 - Jan 17 by KeithHaynes |
Putting the ball under the bar on three occasions may well have won it 🙄 |
In fairness, one was a great save by the keeper pushing it onto the crossbar. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:00 - Jan 17 with 1697 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:58 - Jan 17 by JJBomber |
In fairness, one was a great save by the keeper pushing it onto the crossbar. |
Was right behind that. Hell of a save. Was arcing right into the top corner until the keeper got a touch. |  |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:02 - Jan 17 with 1687 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:56 - Jan 17 by SgorioFruit |
You hit the nail square on the head, trick is winning the game before that. |
Not sure why we didn’t see Stamenic today.
With all our midfielders fit and Idah coming on for Vipotnik, we could keep that intensity up for a game. Especially if Key could get back to form and release Galbraith to play in the middle.
As it stands, we’re going to drop a notch or two and struggle to hold the ball up when the substitutions happen | | | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:08 - Jan 17 with 1659 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:53 - Jan 17 by SgorioFruit |
Top posting.
Although I don’t think you’re allowed to have that opinion on here. Got to be happy with every game and every decision by all accounts.
Ref didn’t help granted.
Vipotnik off for Cullen? Head scratcher.
But it’s ok, can’t criticise anything remember. |
Its lucky you arent the manager, you would burn out several of our players.
I am the same as you, I am not happy with the point but I obviously see things differently to you, i see that we cannot totally dominate 90 minutes, as jack 247 said our players will tire in certain periods of the game, brum are a good team and as they showed they took over, especially when stansfield came on and we tired.
We werent shite in the second half, we still made several centre chances, I just accelt that brum played better than us.
Matos imo should have made substitutions earlier, putting on stamenic for fulton who had a great game but isnt as good on the ball as stamenic, he should have kept vip on for a bit longer as we lost his hold up skills and his physicality, wales should have replaced vip but later on.
He had to make subs as we have a vital game on Tuesday but imo he made the wrong choices, he will learn. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:21 - Jan 17 with 1618 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 21:47 - Jan 17 by Whiterockin |
We did not take our foot off the gas, we tired. Any team that puts in the effort we did in the first half will see a drop off. The game should have been out of sight by halftime our finishing let us down again. They scored just after we made substitutions, we lost the physicality and strength of Vipotnik and Widell, Cullen and Yalcouye are a long way off the quality they replaced. We were not dogshite, we were just not as good as an excellent first half. |
Spot on and we would have not got that draw under our previous coaching regime
The woodwork prevented us winning that game....how many times earkuernin the season coukd we have said that?
Another inpressive performance tonight not helped again by some very dubious officialing.....not one booking despite cynical fouling, not allwing advantage blowing up to give a free kick when we were in advantageous positions.
Numerous foul throws ignored.
Lots of positives in tonights perfirmance despite the dissapointing result.
Franco was immense as was Fulton,Widdell great too Eom is a class above from what we had seen previously.
We conceded when we were down to 10 with Fulton off for 75 seconds...
The midfield were everywhere and we are unable to sustain that for 90 mins...on another night Fultons shot would have gone in , same as Cullens header and Eoms attmept....or we would have had the stonewall pen.
Gutted we only got a point....but can see how the so called same crap assembly of players earlier this season are gellimg into something. | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:24 - Jan 17 with 1602 views | wwcigne |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:08 - Jan 17 by Fireboy2 |
Its lucky you arent the manager, you would burn out several of our players.
I am the same as you, I am not happy with the point but I obviously see things differently to you, i see that we cannot totally dominate 90 minutes, as jack 247 said our players will tire in certain periods of the game, brum are a good team and as they showed they took over, especially when stansfield came on and we tired.
We werent shite in the second half, we still made several centre chances, I just accelt that brum played better than us.
Matos imo should have made substitutions earlier, putting on stamenic for fulton who had a great game but isnt as good on the ball as stamenic, he should have kept vip on for a bit longer as we lost his hold up skills and his physicality, wales should have replaced vip but later on.
He had to make subs as we have a vital game on Tuesday but imo he made the wrong choices, he will learn. |
Agree with you on Stamenic coming on and Zan staying on longer ,we would have competed better.Roberts had a lot of luck with the ball breaking for him to score but we had a 24 carat penalty claim denied by another prune with a whistle ,one of many prunes we’ve had this season,enough to give you the runs | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:28 - Jan 17 with 1556 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:24 - Jan 17 by wwcigne |
Agree with you on Stamenic coming on and Zan staying on longer ,we would have competed better.Roberts had a lot of luck with the ball breaking for him to score but we had a 24 carat penalty claim denied by another prune with a whistle ,one of many prunes we’ve had this season,enough to give you the runs |
As I said at the time if that had happened anywhere on tbe pitch it would be given as a foul. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:39 - Jan 17 with 1512 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 22:24 - Jan 17 by wwcigne |
Agree with you on Stamenic coming on and Zan staying on longer ,we would have competed better.Roberts had a lot of luck with the ball breaking for him to score but we had a 24 carat penalty claim denied by another prune with a whistle ,one of many prunes we’ve had this season,enough to give you the runs |
I've got some sympathy with him regarding the Vipi sub. He's obviously got one eye on Tuesday, a game we really should be winning and having ZV energised enough to do the full 90 there will be a big help.
The bit that gets me is that for about four or five years now it's been obvious that playing Cullen as the lone striker is far more of a hindrance than a help and yet we keep doing it.
Maybe we've not had enough time to work out an alternative strategy. I could buy that. I can't quite bring myself to believe that the Matos who seems to have spotted where we've been going wrong for the most part is unaware of this though. | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 08:13 - Jan 18 with 1143 views | RichardO |
Vipotnik's pressing game has become much better but that was helped by Framco and Widell plus the flanks were made differcult to attack with the work done by Ronald and Eom, add Tymon and Galbraith awareness and timing to know when to intercept the ball, Fulton fulcrum role in the centre was excellent and he got himself and the ball forward a lot better yes we did drop deeper at the end of the first half and almost paid the price, in a way we got lucky that the ball came in so hard that the player at the back post didn't have time to adjust his feet. It took a while in that first half fr Burgess and Cabango to work out who was going to go for the aerial ball and would get in each others way but they sorted it out.
The second half we saw more pressure as they needed to score yes we did drop deeper and the substitutions didn't improve us, I thought Galbraith got lost in the game when moved, Cullen's pressing was in affective in stopping them switching the side of play quickly, Inoussa isn't fully up to speed and they closed the flanks down better not helped by the lack of options for the winger on the ball as we dropped deeper. BUT having said that we still made chances an xample was the whipped in ball that Inoussa could on another of got on the end of.
As had been said Fulton was of the pitch at the time of the goal and that little extra space was well exploited with a good finish.
Good game of football to watch, disappointed with just a point we deserved more but with a better ref I'm sure more decision would have gone our way, a certain amount of play acting towards the end of the game with screaming performances with challenges made and penalised were as earlier in the game weren't. It would appear that the ref doesn't know about playing the advantage either.
We lost to them earlier in the season so is a draw and improvement lots more chances made by us. More enjoyable to watch makes sense if disappointed but not a bad display. [Post edited 18 Jan 18:39]
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:25 - Jan 18 with 998 views | Treforys_Jack |
A decent performance, should have won but didn't, move on to Tuesday. At least it gives the resident Victor Meldrews something to moan about. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:30 - Jan 18 with 967 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:25 - Jan 18 by Treforys_Jack |
A decent performance, should have won but didn't, move on to Tuesday. At least it gives the resident Victor Meldrews something to moan about. |
What about those who said we should have finished better
Is that Meldrewism
Victor was a legend who took no prisoners | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:34 - Jan 18 with 962 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:30 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
What about those who said we should have finished better
Is that Meldrewism
Victor was a legend who took no prisoners |
Yes
We hit the bar three times and the football is already worlds away from what we were playing under Sheehan
Some people will just moan every time we don’t win | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:36 - Jan 18 with 957 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:30 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
What about those who said we should have finished better
Is that Meldrewism
Victor was a legend who took no prisoners |
Oh, we should have finished "better".
It's a mystery why Matos and Co didn't think of that themselves. | |
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| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:55 - Jan 18 with 920 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 09:34 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
Yes
We hit the bar three times and the football is already worlds away from what we were playing under Sheehan
Some people will just moan every time we don’t win |
The football is far more enjoyable and we can see what the team are actually trying to do. We are playing more as a team instead of individuals but we are getting very little fron the referees. The play acting has dropped right off but still the opposition are getting away with far too much, not one yellow in yesterday's game surely the PGMO will look into this very carefully, particularly betting patterns. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 10:26 - Jan 18 with 853 views | TenbySwan |
There were three good crosses after Vip went off which he would have met, sadly Cullen was too deep. But that's hus game. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 10:31 - Jan 18 with 847 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 10:26 - Jan 18 by TenbySwan |
There were three good crosses after Vip went off which he would have met, sadly Cullen was too deep. But that's hus game. |
He did have a wonderful header though that on another day would have dipped under the bar. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 12:29 - Jan 18 with 676 views | TenbySwan |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 10:31 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
He did have a wonderful header though that on another day would have dipped under the bar. |
The point wasnt a criticism of Cullen but rather that we didnt have someone in an advanced Centre Forward position after Vip went off. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 13:05 - Jan 18 with 630 views | controversial_jack |
Very poor second half. No improvement under Matos. The squad is mediocre at best , and we have a big job to get to 50 points with the quality we have. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 13:08 - Jan 18 with 627 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 13:05 - Jan 18 by controversial_jack |
Very poor second half. No improvement under Matos. The squad is mediocre at best , and we have a big job to get to 50 points with the quality we have. |
Do not feed the troll. | | | |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 13:39 - Jan 18 with 578 views | controversial_jack |
| Swansea City v Birmingham City : Match day thread on 13:08 - Jan 18 by Fireboy2 |
Do not feed the troll. |
Do you disagree then? | | | |
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