| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 10:58 - Feb 17 with 1796 views | icecoldjack |
Bottom line for me is that swansea city fc is becoming run of the mill in almost every form.
How did sunderland do with their american investor?
How did villa do with their american investor?
How did liverpool do with hicks and gillete?
I just think this is all being dressed up as a wonderful thing/ nessercerry investment so certain induviduals can cash in.
IMO we dont need the extra bit of cash and if we do we are starting on a slippery slope and yet again going away from what we have preached against for years.
In fact it looks like the board are making mugs of the fans here, taking away one of the special things that made us proud to have a club owned by fans for the fans, which of course soon changed when the first bit of easy money was flashed around.
Will this be good for the swans? IMO no, I dont want us to be like all the other fook up football clubs,ive seen us suffer that for years, id rather keep our dignity and identity as a model to follow and plough our own path even if that means getting relegated or not.
Under the current set up being relegated would be a blip, an expensive one but a blip, under a new model getting relegated could mean all kinds of things, nobody knows what will happen.
I cant help but think this is the begining of the end in many respects, our football identity has been eroded, our off. Field stability looks like its next, what ever happened to our club?
Sorry for being a stick in the mud here but IMO the moment we conform to the rest is the moment we start to suffer, we got success by being different not by following the football sheep. Our model was always about the need to do things different, our style of play,buying rough diamonds,picking yound hungry managers that knew how to get good cheap players, we hardly follow anything that our club preached as the bible just a year or so ago.
Im probably a bit too negative on this subject for some but it all comes from the heart, what we thought about our club was that we were niche, we are now just a run of the mill faceless premier league buisiness with a fast fading identity, something we fans always thought would never happen.
Oh well wjat the fook do i know ! |  | |  |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 11:01 - Feb 17 with 1792 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 10:57 - Feb 17 by ScoobyWho |
After Parlays disclosures about DGT I doubt if he is anything to do with the board, surely they wouldn't endorse him in any capacity, even speaking up for them on here with that criminal past.
I'm intrigued he hasn't responded to Parlay. |
What are you talking about........  |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 11:22 - Feb 17 with 1761 views | tomdickharry |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 10:58 - Feb 17 by icecoldjack |
Bottom line for me is that swansea city fc is becoming run of the mill in almost every form.
How did sunderland do with their american investor?
How did villa do with their american investor?
How did liverpool do with hicks and gillete?
I just think this is all being dressed up as a wonderful thing/ nessercerry investment so certain induviduals can cash in.
IMO we dont need the extra bit of cash and if we do we are starting on a slippery slope and yet again going away from what we have preached against for years.
In fact it looks like the board are making mugs of the fans here, taking away one of the special things that made us proud to have a club owned by fans for the fans, which of course soon changed when the first bit of easy money was flashed around.
Will this be good for the swans? IMO no, I dont want us to be like all the other fook up football clubs,ive seen us suffer that for years, id rather keep our dignity and identity as a model to follow and plough our own path even if that means getting relegated or not.
Under the current set up being relegated would be a blip, an expensive one but a blip, under a new model getting relegated could mean all kinds of things, nobody knows what will happen.
I cant help but think this is the begining of the end in many respects, our football identity has been eroded, our off. Field stability looks like its next, what ever happened to our club?
Sorry for being a stick in the mud here but IMO the moment we conform to the rest is the moment we start to suffer, we got success by being different not by following the football sheep. Our model was always about the need to do things different, our style of play,buying rough diamonds,picking yound hungry managers that knew how to get good cheap players, we hardly follow anything that our club preached as the bible just a year or so ago.
Im probably a bit too negative on this subject for some but it all comes from the heart, what we thought about our club was that we were niche, we are now just a run of the mill faceless premier league buisiness with a fast fading identity, something we fans always thought would never happen.
Oh well wjat the fook do i know ! |
Villa are a poor example,Lerner has ploughed £180M of his own money into Villa,at the commencement of his tenure he met fans and adopted 16 ideas that fans put forward,Villa Park ,Bodymoor Heath and a hell of a lot of property in the development area of Aston are owned by the club and worth tens of millions,the man who Lerner entrusted with his club was Martin O'Neil who spent a fortune on players contracts which only came to light around the time O'Neal left.Villa are in good hands,Lerner will sell but wants his money back or most of it,who can blame him,shame they have appointed Sherwood which makes our trip to Villa Park in a few weeks a dam site harder than when Lambert was in charge. |  | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:01 - Feb 17 with 1723 views | monmouth |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 10:58 - Feb 17 by icecoldjack |
Bottom line for me is that swansea city fc is becoming run of the mill in almost every form.
How did sunderland do with their american investor?
How did villa do with their american investor?
How did liverpool do with hicks and gillete?
I just think this is all being dressed up as a wonderful thing/ nessercerry investment so certain induviduals can cash in.
IMO we dont need the extra bit of cash and if we do we are starting on a slippery slope and yet again going away from what we have preached against for years.
In fact it looks like the board are making mugs of the fans here, taking away one of the special things that made us proud to have a club owned by fans for the fans, which of course soon changed when the first bit of easy money was flashed around.
Will this be good for the swans? IMO no, I dont want us to be like all the other fook up football clubs,ive seen us suffer that for years, id rather keep our dignity and identity as a model to follow and plough our own path even if that means getting relegated or not.
Under the current set up being relegated would be a blip, an expensive one but a blip, under a new model getting relegated could mean all kinds of things, nobody knows what will happen.
I cant help but think this is the begining of the end in many respects, our football identity has been eroded, our off. Field stability looks like its next, what ever happened to our club?
Sorry for being a stick in the mud here but IMO the moment we conform to the rest is the moment we start to suffer, we got success by being different not by following the football sheep. Our model was always about the need to do things different, our style of play,buying rough diamonds,picking yound hungry managers that knew how to get good cheap players, we hardly follow anything that our club preached as the bible just a year or so ago.
Im probably a bit too negative on this subject for some but it all comes from the heart, what we thought about our club was that we were niche, we are now just a run of the mill faceless premier league buisiness with a fast fading identity, something we fans always thought would never happen.
Oh well wjat the fook do i know ! |
I think you speak for the majority of us here; but that is unlikely to be the majority of the people that fill the liberty these days. "Oooh, investment, mega rich foriegners, lets take on ManC and Chelsea, shiny, shiny"
Or as it's otherwise known, a cardiff. |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:20 - Feb 17 with 1697 views | sixpenses |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 09:21 - Feb 17 by tomdickharry |
Could someone please list with good reasons why the Americans are not going to be a breath of fresh air at our club. |
Depends how you define a breath of fresh air
1. History - Dubious and indicative of serious concern
2. Motivation - taking pots of cash out of our club
3. Achieve 2 by majority takeover
4. If Trust at all bothersome in preventing 2, dilute out of existence
5. Investment - the £30m is a private share sale the club sees none of it. All goes to the personal wealth of those that want this to go ahead!
6. Selling point - saddling us with potentially crippling loans that will likely make little difference (could be wasted on 1 dud player). Could source any loans required for capital expenditure privately without selling our club down the river
7. Experience in making lots of money - so they can take it our of our club. Get in hardcore professionals to achieve the same based on high income target bonus. Achieve same result without selling our club down the river
8. Commitment to our club - as long as 2 increasing
9. Quality of football - potentially all that is pragmatically needed to keep the money coming in
10. When 2 stops being enough / things start going down hill / the fatted calf is ready for the pot  - sell to anyone who offers the cash, anyone or asset strip
Our club is for our area and our fans and for future generations. That was the aim when it was saved. Seems only those without potential pocket fulls of cash to make are seriously considering the considerable risk to it's future existence. Others seem happy to go out with a bang on one final sh1t or bust extravaganza
If a man in a car with previous self serving history offers a child a sweet. It is possible that they are just being kindly and everyones best interests will be served. As a parent what would you advise.
Suck it and see?
or
JUST SAY NO
Why will the other sharholders not let the Trust get 25%. Because it will make the club less desirable to those that may want to take it over and milk it. Which in turn would reduce the quite obscene windfall profits (when made on the back of supposedly saving our club then selling it down river) to be made by the current shareholders from this sale. Reducing them to just excellent windfall profits.
How much profit can a self painted philanthropist take
In the words of Frank Zappa anything over a mouth full is wasted
Why do the others want the Trust to sell - to absolve their greed when things go wrong (as sooner or later they must). We were not acting in self interest, because the Trust had nothing to gain (just the best interest of the Club) and they sold too. We were all doing it in the best interests of the Club.
Alternatively we will finish in the top 4 - and win the Champions league for a million years until it becomes so boring we take up crown green bowls for excitement
RIP SCFC and all that was special about our club | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:26 - Feb 17 with 1687 views | Chief |
Are these investors going to put enough money in to be able to make us compete for champions league places?
realistically no.
so whats the point? whats wrong with where we are now? 12 years ago we were in the bottom division FFS. |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:30 - Feb 17 with 1684 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:01 - Feb 17 by monmouth |
I think you speak for the majority of us here; but that is unlikely to be the majority of the people that fill the liberty these days. "Oooh, investment, mega rich foriegners, lets take on ManC and Chelsea, shiny, shiny"
Or as it's otherwise known, a cardiff. |
Ah no it's not a case of thinking we can take on Man City, Chelsea, but more the board think they have taken the club as far as they can. ( yes they will make money but so what) This is the price of success and being in the PL, the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to what and where we have come from. The up-side for people who don't like what may happen is that no-one will force them to spend their money at the club, tickets, merchandise etc. maybe fc of Swansea will appear soon. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:37 - Feb 17 with 1659 views | tomdickharry |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:20 - Feb 17 by sixpenses |
Depends how you define a breath of fresh air
1. History - Dubious and indicative of serious concern
2. Motivation - taking pots of cash out of our club
3. Achieve 2 by majority takeover
4. If Trust at all bothersome in preventing 2, dilute out of existence
5. Investment - the £30m is a private share sale the club sees none of it. All goes to the personal wealth of those that want this to go ahead!
6. Selling point - saddling us with potentially crippling loans that will likely make little difference (could be wasted on 1 dud player). Could source any loans required for capital expenditure privately without selling our club down the river
7. Experience in making lots of money - so they can take it our of our club. Get in hardcore professionals to achieve the same based on high income target bonus. Achieve same result without selling our club down the river
8. Commitment to our club - as long as 2 increasing
9. Quality of football - potentially all that is pragmatically needed to keep the money coming in
10. When 2 stops being enough / things start going down hill / the fatted calf is ready for the pot - sell to anyone who offers the cash, anyone or asset strip
Our club is for our area and our fans and for future generations. That was the aim when it was saved. Seems only those without potential pocket fulls of cash to make are seriously considering the considerable risk to it's future existence. Others seem happy to go out with a bang on one final sh1t or bust extravaganza
If a man in a car with previous self serving history offers a child a sweet. It is possible that they are just being kindly and everyones best interests will be served. As a parent what would you advise.
Suck it and see?
or
JUST SAY NO
Why will the other sharholders not let the Trust get 25%. Because it will make the club less desirable to those that may want to take it over and milk it. Which in turn would reduce the quite obscene windfall profits (when made on the back of supposedly saving our club then selling it down river) to be made by the current shareholders from this sale. Reducing them to just excellent windfall profits.
How much profit can a self painted philanthropist take
In the words of Frank Zappa anything over a mouth full is wasted
Why do the others want the Trust to sell - to absolve their greed when things go wrong (as sooner or later they must). We were not acting in self interest, because the Trust had nothing to gain (just the best interest of the Club) and they sold too. We were all doing it in the best interests of the Club.
Alternatively we will finish in the top 4 - and win the Champions league for a million years until it becomes so boring we take up crown green bowls for excitement
RIP SCFC and all that was special about our club |
Good post that.
However one of my main concerns is that Swansea City as we know it today is under capitalised, consequently in order to proceed with grandiose ideas of Stadium purchase/expansion.Academy 1/Stadium costs/PL standard team/staff/ somebody must fund this,in addition to the Sky bonanza,without outside investment tell me who,certainly not the Trust. | | | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:38 - Feb 17 with 1657 views | sixpenses |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:30 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
Ah no it's not a case of thinking we can take on Man City, Chelsea, but more the board think they have taken the club as far as they can. ( yes they will make money but so what) This is the price of success and being in the PL, the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to what and where we have come from. The up-side for people who don't like what may happen is that no-one will force them to spend their money at the club, tickets, merchandise etc. maybe fc of Swansea will appear soon. |
Think you are talking about the price of greed not success
A greed set to feed on the entrails of the very thing it was supposed to protect (according to legend).
Please don't treat one of the biggest shareholders as mere customers.
It is a fool that underestimates their enemy. | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:42 - Feb 17 with 1639 views | londonlisa2001 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:30 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
Ah no it's not a case of thinking we can take on Man City, Chelsea, but more the board think they have taken the club as far as they can. ( yes they will make money but so what) This is the price of success and being in the PL, the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to what and where we have come from. The up-side for people who don't like what may happen is that no-one will force them to spend their money at the club, tickets, merchandise etc. maybe fc of Swansea will appear soon. |
If I genuinely thought that the reason for this was that the board thought they had taken us as far as they can go then although disappointed, I would understand it.
But this is simply not the case. Could the board structure / ownership structure that is currently in place improve our commercial side by hiring in a top notch marketing team? Yes.
Could the current structure continue to invest in the academy so that we could feasibly start generating income from players that we are able to produce? Yes
Are the board convinced that they have hired the best possible talent to work at the club within the restrictions of the money available?
Coud they negotiate with the other stadium partners to ensure that the club gets the lion's share of naming rights and aggressively go out and find a partner.
Is there any reason why the stadium purchase is so absolutely essential now? If there is, then why are commercial loans not available - they are to everyone else.
There is a difference between thinking that they've taken us as far as they can and fancying a few million quid for themselves. The only thing with that is the PR looks so bad.
And, just as a thought. If we as a club genuinely can't carry on as we are and continue to achieve more, exactly what difference to the likelihood of achieving more will a few million sitting in the bank accounts of the current shareholders make?
This ' the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to where we have come from' is the equivalent of 'Red or Dead' and we all know what happened with that. | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:04 - Feb 17 with 1577 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 12:42 - Feb 17 by londonlisa2001 |
If I genuinely thought that the reason for this was that the board thought they had taken us as far as they can go then although disappointed, I would understand it.
But this is simply not the case. Could the board structure / ownership structure that is currently in place improve our commercial side by hiring in a top notch marketing team? Yes.
Could the current structure continue to invest in the academy so that we could feasibly start generating income from players that we are able to produce? Yes
Are the board convinced that they have hired the best possible talent to work at the club within the restrictions of the money available?
Coud they negotiate with the other stadium partners to ensure that the club gets the lion's share of naming rights and aggressively go out and find a partner.
Is there any reason why the stadium purchase is so absolutely essential now? If there is, then why are commercial loans not available - they are to everyone else.
There is a difference between thinking that they've taken us as far as they can and fancying a few million quid for themselves. The only thing with that is the PR looks so bad.
And, just as a thought. If we as a club genuinely can't carry on as we are and continue to achieve more, exactly what difference to the likelihood of achieving more will a few million sitting in the bank accounts of the current shareholders make?
This ' the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to where we have come from' is the equivalent of 'Red or Dead' and we all know what happened with that. |
It's nothing like "red or dead" and no one at the club is portraying that way. The momentum the club has behind it now could end at anytime and if that happens relegation would follow for a club like Swansea, just as night follows day. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:05 - Feb 17 with 1573 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
When's the first protest march . |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:10 - Feb 17 with 1563 views | ScoobyWho |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 11:01 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
What are you talking about........ |
He accused you of theft from local charities and a hospice.
Are you denying it ? If so you should fight your corner. |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:12 - Feb 17 with 1558 views | londonlisa2001 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:04 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
It's nothing like "red or dead" and no one at the club is portraying that way. The momentum the club has behind it now could end at anytime and if that happens relegation would follow for a club like Swansea, just as night follows day. |
I didn't say that anyone in the club had said that - you did, in the post that I was replying to.
"This is the price of success and being in the PL, the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to what and where we have come from. "
And so what if relegation followed? I'd obviously prefer to stay in the PL, but if the worst thing that happened was us going to the championship etc then so be it. Wouldn't affect my enjoyment - I'd still go as often as I could.
(As an aside though, the longer that the money in the PL goes up and up, the less likely that clubs that have ben in the PL for a few years (including us) will go down, and the more likely that every year, the teams that are promoted will go straight back.)
Doesn't mean that we won't go down though and of course, if that happened, the shares being sold would suffer a considerable drop in their value ...
One question though - exactly what momentum is given to the club by selling shareholders having lots of money in their personal bank accounts? | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:28 - Feb 17 with 1535 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:12 - Feb 17 by londonlisa2001 |
I didn't say that anyone in the club had said that - you did, in the post that I was replying to.
"This is the price of success and being in the PL, the alternative is let's get relegated and go back to what and where we have come from. "
And so what if relegation followed? I'd obviously prefer to stay in the PL, but if the worst thing that happened was us going to the championship etc then so be it. Wouldn't affect my enjoyment - I'd still go as often as I could.
(As an aside though, the longer that the money in the PL goes up and up, the less likely that clubs that have ben in the PL for a few years (including us) will go down, and the more likely that every year, the teams that are promoted will go straight back.)
Doesn't mean that we won't go down though and of course, if that happened, the shares being sold would suffer a considerable drop in their value ...
One question though - exactly what momentum is given to the club by selling shareholders having lots of money in their personal bank accounts? |
If the stories are true and the Americans are going to spend £30 million, the chances are they aren't going to sit on their arses. They will want the club to be successful and that will bring new momentum. Is there risks? Of course, but we'd be still living in caves if mankind didn't take risks. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:32 - Feb 17 with 1503 views | londonlisa2001 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:28 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
If the stories are true and the Americans are going to spend £30 million, the chances are they aren't going to sit on their arses. They will want the club to be successful and that will bring new momentum. Is there risks? Of course, but we'd be still living in caves if mankind didn't take risks. |
you didn't answer the question.
What momentum will be brought to the club by the exiting shareholders becoming wealthy?
Sorry but you are just spinning a vague 'it's bound to be great' line with no substance and history doesn't support this view.
The ironic thing is that some of those that are trying to feather their nests at the moment would have been the ones at the forefront of protesting about it if the shoe was on the other foot. | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:41 - Feb 17 with 1485 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:32 - Feb 17 by londonlisa2001 |
you didn't answer the question.
What momentum will be brought to the club by the exiting shareholders becoming wealthy?
Sorry but you are just spinning a vague 'it's bound to be great' line with no substance and history doesn't support this view.
The ironic thing is that some of those that are trying to feather their nests at the moment would have been the ones at the forefront of protesting about it if the shoe was on the other foot. |
Yes some board members will make money, but the new momentum will come from people who will want to look after their investment. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit I'm wrong, but there now seems to be people who are ideologically driven and will not give any new investors a chance, even if they do a great job. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:48 - Feb 17 with 1472 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:10 - Feb 17 by ScoobyWho |
He accused you of theft from local charities and a hospice.
Are you denying it ? If so you should fight your corner. |
lol. I said I'd make a £100 donation to a charity if I was wrong and then parlay brought up an edited post which proved nothing at all. I was right, he was clutching at straws after being made to look a tw@t. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:50 - Feb 17 with 1469 views | londonlisa2001 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:41 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
Yes some board members will make money, but the new momentum will come from people who will want to look after their investment. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit I'm wrong, but there now seems to be people who are ideologically driven and will not give any new investors a chance, even if they do a great job. |
the whole thing since Petty has been ideologically driven. That's the whole blinking point.
Owned by the fans, for the fans - does this ring any bells?
More than a club?
Jack to a King?
All of this has been thrown away at the first hint of money and some changes in people's personal circumstances. If that is the case then that is the case. But don't let any of the people selling up (without any assurances re the Trust - they don't seem to give a crap) try to spin this into anything other than them making money personally from it. They can't have it all ways. It's got sod all to do with taking the club as far as it can go and expanding commercial activities etc - all of that can be quite easily satisfied with a head hunter and a bank loan. | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:02 - Feb 17 with 1442 views | Nookiejack |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:41 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
Yes some board members will make money, but the new momentum will come from people who will want to look after their investment. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit I'm wrong, but there now seems to be people who are ideologically driven and will not give any new investors a chance, even if they do a great job. |
The Trust is ideological it was set-up with the purpose of establishing a fan-based ownership of Swansea City, to maintain at least Football League status for the city. The fan based ownership being passed down from generation to generation. Stops a Tony Petty ever getting hold of ownership of the club again.
You seem to prefer the club being owned by Americans with no affiliation to the club - by people who do not have the best of reputations. With maybe hope of finishing a couple of places higher in PL - ignoring the risk of it all imploding when they start taking out their returns. Or most likely scenario when we have one bad season and they sell all our players and take parachute payments - to get their money back.
What sums of money do you think the Americans are going to invest above their £79m to £100m initial investment to buy-out the non Trust shares over next few years - to take us to next level? | | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:03 - Feb 17 with 1438 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 13:50 - Feb 17 by londonlisa2001 |
the whole thing since Petty has been ideologically driven. That's the whole blinking point.
Owned by the fans, for the fans - does this ring any bells?
More than a club?
Jack to a King?
All of this has been thrown away at the first hint of money and some changes in people's personal circumstances. If that is the case then that is the case. But don't let any of the people selling up (without any assurances re the Trust - they don't seem to give a crap) try to spin this into anything other than them making money personally from it. They can't have it all ways. It's got sod all to do with taking the club as far as it can go and expanding commercial activities etc - all of that can be quite easily satisfied with a head hunter and a bank loan. |
Yes very true, but you can't stand still, things move on and times change. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:10 - Feb 17 with 1429 views | ApeShit |
Another thing people seem to be forgetting is that the Americans won't be able to plough millions into the club even if they wanted to, FFP anyone? |  | | |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:15 - Feb 17 with 1421 views | dgt73 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:02 - Feb 17 by Nookiejack |
The Trust is ideological it was set-up with the purpose of establishing a fan-based ownership of Swansea City, to maintain at least Football League status for the city. The fan based ownership being passed down from generation to generation. Stops a Tony Petty ever getting hold of ownership of the club again.
You seem to prefer the club being owned by Americans with no affiliation to the club - by people who do not have the best of reputations. With maybe hope of finishing a couple of places higher in PL - ignoring the risk of it all imploding when they start taking out their returns. Or most likely scenario when we have one bad season and they sell all our players and take parachute payments - to get their money back.
What sums of money do you think the Americans are going to invest above their £79m to £100m initial investment to buy-out the non Trust shares over next few years - to take us to next level? |
No, in an ideal world Huw Jenkins and the rest of the board would continue with the status quo, but if some board members want to sell for whatever reason, then there ain't much we can do. | |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:17 - Feb 17 with 1415 views | hammy |
I must admit that although I believe we need a more wealthy form of ownership to take us to the top end of the PL I would be very wary of getting involved with these guys if their previous financial dealings are true. They will obviously just be in it for the money and a quick return on their investment.
I have no particular issue with the current shareholders selling up; it's just the way it is, but they should do proper due diligence on who thy are selling to and the implications for he club. If this is not going to take place then the risk of this sale of shares needs to be brought to public attention, via all means possible. |  |
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| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:17 - Feb 17 with 1415 views | londonlisa2001 |
| John Jay Moores and Charles Noell investment as early as next month on 14:15 - Feb 17 by dgt73 |
No, in an ideal world Huw Jenkins and the rest of the board would continue with the status quo, but if some board members want to sell for whatever reason, then there ain't much we can do. |
there is quite a lot actually.
As I said yesterday, the trust may on the face of it be just a 21% shareholder but that masks its power in terms of who it represents. Both from a PR perspective and potentially from an income perspective as well. | | | |
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