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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 175840 viewspikeypaul



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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:31 - Jul 2 with 625 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 13:26 - Jul 2 by Jango

A former key aide to Barack Obama has confirmed David Cameron personally asked the US president to warn Britain would be "back of the queue" for a post-Brexit trade deal.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/cameron-personally-request

Remainers refuse to believe that businesses will purposely be pessimistic about Brexit in order to strike fear into people and stop the deal, yet here there’s proof the most important man on the planet was willing to do just that.


"Remainers refuse to believe that businesses will purposely be pessimistic about Brexit in order to strike fear into people and stop the deal"

And Leavers fail to realise that if Brexit was really the dogs danglies, then business would be all for it. As soon as the profitability of these international firms that currently operate in the UK comes into doubt, they will leave.

"yet here there’s proof the most important man on the planet was willing to do just that."

Not sure what your trying to say here.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:32 - Jul 2 with 624 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 11:19 - Jul 2 by Lord_Bony

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The harder the Brexit the better.


Is this leaving the single market and Customs union?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:48 - Jul 2 with 629 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 15:31 - Jul 2 by Batterseajack

"Remainers refuse to believe that businesses will purposely be pessimistic about Brexit in order to strike fear into people and stop the deal"

And Leavers fail to realise that if Brexit was really the dogs danglies, then business would be all for it. As soon as the profitability of these international firms that currently operate in the UK comes into doubt, they will leave.

"yet here there’s proof the most important man on the planet was willing to do just that."

Not sure what your trying to say here.
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The Brexiteer reply to this is of course 'f*ck business'.

Maybe if businesses are in the main against this, we should all become Brexiteers. Viva la Revolucion and all that. Let's get Corbyn in to lead our anti-business commune and all eat tofu!
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The Countdown begins. on 16:09 - Jul 2 with 617 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 15:32 - Jul 2 by Batterseajack

Is this leaving the single market and Customs union?


He wants it hard and fast with plenty of girth.

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The Countdown begins. on 17:14 - Jul 2 with 594 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 23:55 - Jul 1 by Kerouac

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The Countdown begins. on 17:54 - Jul 2 with 574 viewsJango

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"Remainers refuse to believe that businesses will purposely be pessimistic about Brexit in order to strike fear into people and stop the deal"

And Leavers fail to realise that if Brexit was really the dogs danglies, then business would be all for it. As soon as the profitability of these international firms that currently operate in the UK comes into doubt, they will leave.

"yet here there’s proof the most important man on the planet was willing to do just that."

Not sure what your trying to say here.
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My point is that if The president of the USA was willing to come out and lie to scaremonger then the CEO’s of German companies like BMW and the likes Airbus who take huge sums of money off EU would very easily be persuaded to do the same. Yet you’ll buy it everytime.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:54 - Jul 2 by Jango

My point is that if The president of the USA was willing to come out and lie to scaremonger then the CEO’s of German companies like BMW and the likes Airbus who take huge sums of money off EU would very easily be persuaded to do the same. Yet you’ll buy it everytime.


Of course there’s an element of politics Jango I don’t disagree but there is also the hard fact that business will have to do contingency planning for Brexit. I’ve seen nothing to persuade me that Brexit, as opposed to the status quo, will be positive for the UK economy. Absolutely nothing.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:24 - Jul 2 with 552 viewsHumpty

I'm pretty sure that if businesses thought Brexit would be good for them they'd be screaming it from the rooftops.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:35 - Jul 2 with 541 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 17:54 - Jul 2 by Jango

My point is that if The president of the USA was willing to come out and lie to scaremonger then the CEO’s of German companies like BMW and the likes Airbus who take huge sums of money off EU would very easily be persuaded to do the same. Yet you’ll buy it everytime.


You say "lie", but in that link you posted his aide says that the UK and US governments both thought Brexit would have bad consequences and a deal wouldn't be quick or easy (as being touted by the Leave campaign at the time). So I'm struggling to see where the lie is, if that's what Obama believed.

Sensationalist rhetoric maybe. Possibly exaggerating too (depends how big the queue is - if it's just the EU and the UK in it, then you can bet we won't be first). But the statement truthfully represents their feelings about it, that's clear from the article. We'll have to wait and see as it can only be validated after leaving.

Probably a moot point anyway with Trump's aggressive protectionism approach.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:50 - Jul 2 with 532 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 18:24 - Jul 2 by Humpty

I'm pretty sure that if businesses thought Brexit would be good for them they'd be screaming it from the rooftops.


No, they only want to block the will of the people and subvert democracy. They're common return KPIs In their annual reports:

Number of times WILL OF THE PEOPLE stopped:
Number of instances of democracy subversion:

It's tin foil hattery stuff it really is. Some businesses will make a tidy profit out of this (like Farage's hedge fund buddies who already have, and Rees-Mogg's investment firm, who are well on the way to). And there will be others, less disingenuously exploitative, businesses who this will suit.

But the majority seem to think it will hit them hard. Not that I particularly care about fat cats getting stung, but ultimately it'll put jobs on the line. Profits will affect our pensions, etc. It will affect growth (already has) which affects tax take, which affects budgets, which affects the resources our schools get, our NHS gets, which councils get, which reduces services, etc., etc.

Great if Brexit turns us into a powerhouse, but nobody seems able to tell us how that will happen. Not the government, not the opposition, not the public, not companies, not NGOs, not the public sector, nkt independent observers from overseas.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:38 - Jul 2 with 500 viewsKilkennyjack

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-almost-derailed-as-theresa-may-aide-ol

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The Countdown begins. on 21:49 - Jul 2 with 477 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 18:50 - Jul 2 by LeonWasGod

No, they only want to block the will of the people and subvert democracy. They're common return KPIs In their annual reports:

Number of times WILL OF THE PEOPLE stopped:
Number of instances of democracy subversion:

It's tin foil hattery stuff it really is. Some businesses will make a tidy profit out of this (like Farage's hedge fund buddies who already have, and Rees-Mogg's investment firm, who are well on the way to). And there will be others, less disingenuously exploitative, businesses who this will suit.

But the majority seem to think it will hit them hard. Not that I particularly care about fat cats getting stung, but ultimately it'll put jobs on the line. Profits will affect our pensions, etc. It will affect growth (already has) which affects tax take, which affects budgets, which affects the resources our schools get, our NHS gets, which councils get, which reduces services, etc., etc.

Great if Brexit turns us into a powerhouse, but nobody seems able to tell us how that will happen. Not the government, not the opposition, not the public, not companies, not NGOs, not the public sector, nkt independent observers from overseas.


Great point in your last paragraph, what is the brexiteer vision for turning us into a powerhouse? Seems they're pinning their hopes that the disruption caused from leaving the worlds biggest trading block on our doorstep will somehow jolt us on to new and stelar trajectory of success where world trade picks up, outstripping the trade lost to the EU. Such a big gamble, Any evidence that the reward is actually there and how this might be achieved? ....and what stopped us from achieving this from within the EU?
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The Countdown begins. on 21:49 - Jul 2 by Batterseajack

Great point in your last paragraph, what is the brexiteer vision for turning us into a powerhouse? Seems they're pinning their hopes that the disruption caused from leaving the worlds biggest trading block on our doorstep will somehow jolt us on to new and stelar trajectory of success where world trade picks up, outstripping the trade lost to the EU. Such a big gamble, Any evidence that the reward is actually there and how this might be achieved? ....and what stopped us from achieving this from within the EU?


Nothing of course. The whole Brexit dream is just that, a bloody dream. Bit like one of those Watchtower magazines depicting heaven.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:03 - Jul 2 with 473 viewspikeypaul

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Nothing of course. The whole Brexit dream is just that, a bloody dream. Bit like one of those Watchtower magazines depicting heaven.


It's great when a dream comes true.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:26 - Jul 2 with 457 viewslonglostjack

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The Countdown begins. on 22:39 - Jul 2 with 445 viewsKerouac

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The Countdown begins. on 22:44 - Jul 2 with 443 viewslonglostjack

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Agree mate. Massive climb down for Seehofer the Teutonic Boris.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:02 - Jul 2 with 431 viewsKerouac

The Countdown begins. on 22:44 - Jul 2 by longlostjack

Agree mate. Massive climb down for Seehofer the Teutonic Boris.


What planet are you on. SHE has made concessions...and is now standing on very thin ice.
The tail now wags the dog.
Merkel's days are numbered.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:31 - Jul 2 with 411 viewsKilkennyjack



Why wont the BBC report this ?

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The Countdown begins. on 00:28 - Jul 3 with 395 viewsmajorraglan

Um, It’s not sounding good for a deal!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44690124
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The Countdown begins. on 00:54 - Jul 3 with 390 viewsHumpty

The Countdown begins. on 23:31 - Jul 2 by Kilkennyjack



Why wont the BBC report this ?


The more I read about this the more interesting it gets.

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The Countdown begins. on 07:27 - Jul 3 with 339 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 08:24 - Jul 3 with 324 viewsKilkennyjack

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You are stood like a child waving the union flag, whilst the real players got very rich very quickly.

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The Countdown begins. on 08:39 - Jul 3 with 313 viewssherpajacob

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