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Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 06:25 - Jul 14 by Kilkennyjack
Well, in basic terms, God made the borders of Ireland and not the British. Look at a map.
It’s like saying well, i dunno, .....,Newport is part of ....Denmark...? It just isn’t. No matter how many Danes move there, or if they outnumber the natives.
Of course the British should leave the north of Ireland. Ireland is for the Irish.
"Well, in basic terms, God made the borders of Ireland and not the British. Look at a map. "
Take a look at a map of the Iberian peninsular. Did "God" make those borders? Or is it just the Irish that he/she/it takes a special interest in? Using the Iberian peninsular as an example please expand on your ideas in more detail. I believe you support the Catalan Independence cause don't you?
Also, "God" seems to have cut Ireland adrift from the Continent yet you have open borders with the EU. Are the people of Ireland defying "God's" will?
The rest of your post could have been written by the EDL (with some nationalities edited). Do you support the EDL (as that would be consistent with your support of the Catalans, the SNP, Plaid and Sinn Fein) ?
*Dear readers, How is Kilkenny's claim that we 'Brexiteers' are "thick" while conversely he and the other 'Remainers' are "intelligent" stacking up?
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 18:24 - Jul 19 by Kilkennyjack
Tell you what, the great European nations never beat the welsh language and welsh culture half to death.
The great Eurpoean nations never cleared the Scottish highlands.
The great European nations never let one million people starve to death in Ireland.
An independent Ireland gets a say on Brexit, Scotland and Wales deliberately excluded.
West wales poorest part of western europe, london the richest part.
What the feck is wrong with you ?
"Tell you what, the great European nations never beat the welsh language and welsh culture half to death."
No, but they did suppress the Basques, Catalans, the Saami, the Roma, the Slavs, the Jews etc. Anyway, you live in a modern UK that has devolved government and respects the different languages and culture of these islands. Take your head out of your arse and look around once in a while. The Welsh language and culture is promoted everywhere across Wales.
"The great Eurpoean nations never cleared the Scottish highlands. "
No but they did clear just about every other region of Europe at some time or another.
"The great European nations never let one million people starve to death in Ireland."
The "great European nations" have allowed plenty of people to starve at various points in their history. Germany committed mass genocide within living memory FFS!
"An independent Ireland gets a say on Brexit, Scotland and Wales deliberately excluded. "
Ireland has no say on Brexit. We are leaving, how much pain that causes them depends on our decisions...as always we want to treat them like one of the family, despite their independent status, but their own government and representatives of the EU are going to make that nigh on impossible. So pain it will be. When you base your decisions and actions on hate, rather than rationality, the end result is always pain.
"West wales poorest part of western europe, london the richest part. "
Please explain in detail how London is holding us (YOU) back. Make it a detailed response that takes into account our membership of the EU for the past 40 years please...explain how massive EU structural fund grants were spent in Wales (who decided how that money should be spent?) and tell me, in detail, what the outcome was to our economy.
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 13:43 - Jul 21 by Kerouac
"Tell you what, the great European nations never beat the welsh language and welsh culture half to death."
No, but they did suppress the Basques, Catalans, the Saami, the Roma, the Slavs, the Jews etc. Anyway, you live in a modern UK that has devolved government and respects the different languages and culture of these islands. Take your head out of your arse and look around once in a while. The Welsh language and culture is promoted everywhere across Wales.
"The great Eurpoean nations never cleared the Scottish highlands. "
No but they did clear just about every other region of Europe at some time or another.
"The great European nations never let one million people starve to death in Ireland."
The "great European nations" have allowed plenty of people to starve at various points in their history. Germany committed mass genocide within living memory FFS!
"An independent Ireland gets a say on Brexit, Scotland and Wales deliberately excluded. "
Ireland has no say on Brexit. We are leaving, how much pain that causes them depends on our decisions...as always we want to treat them like one of the family, despite their independent status, but their own government and representatives of the EU are going to make that nigh on impossible. So pain it will be. When you base your decisions and actions on hate, rather than rationality, the end result is always pain.
"West wales poorest part of western europe, london the richest part. "
Please explain in detail how London is holding us (YOU) back. Make it a detailed response that takes into account our membership of the EU for the past 40 years please...explain how massive EU structural fund grants were spent in Wales (who decided how that money should be spent?) and tell me, in detail, what the outcome was to our economy.
Nope - your ‘what about them though’ answer style gets you a fail grade. Not even close.
The only point that matters is that the inequalities between london and west wales were so stark that the European Union had to step in and provide the investment needed. That alone is a shameful reflection on London rule. They do not give a shite.
Wales needs out.
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Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 15:03 - Jul 21 with 1062 views
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 13:16 - Jul 21 by Kerouac
"Well, in basic terms, God made the borders of Ireland and not the British. Look at a map. "
Take a look at a map of the Iberian peninsular. Did "God" make those borders? Or is it just the Irish that he/she/it takes a special interest in? Using the Iberian peninsular as an example please expand on your ideas in more detail. I believe you support the Catalan Independence cause don't you?
Also, "God" seems to have cut Ireland adrift from the Continent yet you have open borders with the EU. Are the people of Ireland defying "God's" will?
The rest of your post could have been written by the EDL (with some nationalities edited). Do you support the EDL (as that would be consistent with your support of the Catalans, the SNP, Plaid and Sinn Fein) ?
*Dear readers, How is Kilkenny's claim that we 'Brexiteers' are "thick" while conversely he and the other 'Remainers' are "intelligent" stacking up?
Not all Brexiteers are thick.
But you are... you have the double burden of being both thick and over confident. A bit of a Trump like twp, with a bold shouty rambling type of style.
You are a fecking right div. ðŸ‘
Beware of the Risen People
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Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 18:58 - Jul 21 with 1023 views
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 13:16 - Jul 21 by Kerouac
"Well, in basic terms, God made the borders of Ireland and not the British. Look at a map. "
Take a look at a map of the Iberian peninsular. Did "God" make those borders? Or is it just the Irish that he/she/it takes a special interest in? Using the Iberian peninsular as an example please expand on your ideas in more detail. I believe you support the Catalan Independence cause don't you?
Also, "God" seems to have cut Ireland adrift from the Continent yet you have open borders with the EU. Are the people of Ireland defying "God's" will?
The rest of your post could have been written by the EDL (with some nationalities edited). Do you support the EDL (as that would be consistent with your support of the Catalans, the SNP, Plaid and Sinn Fein) ?
*Dear readers, How is Kilkenny's claim that we 'Brexiteers' are "thick" while conversely he and the other 'Remainers' are "intelligent" stacking up?
That Irish gut doesn’t even live in Ireland, he prefers to live in a soon to be independent U.K. You have to forgive him. God may have made borders, but he didn’t make any brain cells for that Killy tw@t.
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Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 19:04 - Jul 21 with 1012 views
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 15:03 - Jul 21 by Kilkennyjack
Not all Brexiteers are thick.
But you are... you have the double burden of being both thick and over confident. A bit of a Trump like twp, with a bold shouty rambling type of style.
You are a fecking right div. ðŸ‘
That's right, don't even attempt a coherent, well thought through answer. Just accept you are the EDL in different clothes.
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 18:58 - Jul 21 by peenemunde
That Irish gut doesn’t even live in Ireland, he prefers to live in a soon to be independent U.K. You have to forgive him. God may have made borders, but he didn’t make any brain cells for that Killy tw@t.
How very rude 😘
Beware of the Risen People
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Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 19:09 - Jul 21 with 1004 views
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 14:53 - Jul 21 by Kilkennyjack
Nope - your ‘what about them though’ answer style gets you a fail grade. Not even close.
The only point that matters is that the inequalities between london and west wales were so stark that the European Union had to step in and provide the investment needed. That alone is a shameful reflection on London rule. They do not give a shite.
Wales needs out.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2018 14:54]
"Nope - your ‘what about them though’ answer style gets you a fail grade. Not even close. "
The facts. The UK has devolved government in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. If the people of Scotland vote in a party with a manifesto commitment to an independence referendum...such as the SNP...we respect their vote and give them their independence referendum. Is this the same for the Basques, the Catalans, the Saami etc. ?
Another question you won't be able to give a straight answer too, because the uncomfortable truth is that it is in fact "the great European nations" who suppress the language and culture of it's dissatisfied people. NOW. TODAY. PRESENTLY.
The English people are the only people in the UK who don't have their own devolved parliament. If you were intellectually coherent and honest you would be arguing for their rights as well as the Catalans. If Ireland is for the Irish and Wales is for the Welsh, then England is for the English...that makes you the EDL. You are not coherent or honest though. You are a hate filled, bitter, loser, who avoids responsibility and takes comfort in his use of the English as a scapegoat/bogeyman.
"The only point that matters is that the inequalities between london and west wales were so stark that the European Union had to step in and provide the investment needed. That alone is a shameful reflection on London rule. They do not give a shite."
You don't want to talk about the detail. The detail is uncomfortable.
It is time the Welsh stopped listening to voices like yours and started to punch our own weight. There is no good reason why we should perform worse than the rest of the UK...it is certainly not in Westminster's interest that this should be the case. Time to take responsibility for ourselves. A good start would be kicking out the Labour Party.
"Wales needs out. "
If Wales comes out of the UK as the UK leaves the EU the situation would be;
- The EU has a smaller budget
- The Nation states of the EU do not wish to pay more in or accept less out.
- Wales takes a massive hit to our economy without the subsidy from Westminster
- Wales would be attempting to join the EU in these circumstances
- We would be asking the EU to make up our shortfall or accept massive cuts on a scale people like you cannot imagine (the relatively minor cuts over the past 8 years have been too much to bare for you)
- Any money sent our way would be coming from Germany (their only motivation for doing this...as the German people do not want to pay anymore into the EU...would be to spite the UK by assisting in it's break up, actually that has been the goal over there for about a century now) and it would come with strings attached.
- Wales wouldn't actually be independent, we would be like Greece, on our knees, begging and waiting for further instruction from Germany
- We would be one of the tiniest and most insignificant regions of the EU, we would have no voice, zero power, ignored.
You, and people like you, are foolish on an epic, historically significant scale. If the people of Wales followed you we would be led to disaster.
Fortunately the people of Wales have a lot more sense than people like you give them credit for, which is why Plaid Cymru will bomb at the next election as per usual. Wales voted out. We are not voting for Plaid, and polls frequently show that only a tiny minority of Welsh people are in favour of independence.
You stay on your knees, sucking down hate from Satan's cock though, if it makes you feel better. Good day
"If Theresa May were really to care about the actual possibility of the United Kingdom dissolving, the worst thing she could do would be to go down her present path. Theresa May is fond of saying that her policy towards the EU is driven by her determination not to break up the Union — that is, the union between Britain and Northern Ireland. But there is another Union she seems to have forgotten about, and one which is much more important: the union between Scotland and England. Before the referendum, I argued that the drive for Scottish independence would be killed if the United Kingdom left the EU, since independence for Scotland inside an EU which also contained England was virtually costless, while independence (or even continued membership of the EU for Scotland) if England was not in the EU imposed huge costs which the Scottish electorate would baulk at. Independence within the EU had been the strategy which propelled the SNP to its present position, once they had abandoned in the 1980s their old visceral hatred of the EEC, and the logic of the situation simply entailed that independence outside the EU would take the SNP back to where it started. Events after the referendum, I think, proved this prediction to be correct. Feeble bluster from the SNP leaders notwithstanding (and not all of them, at that), the steady trend was away from independence and back to something more like the old politics of Scotland inside the Union.
But the more the settlement with the EU looks like a kind of continued UK membership of the bloc, the more independence for Scotland will creep back onto the agenda. May is faced with an infernal balancing machine: to give the Ulster Unionists what they want, in the shape of no border down the Irish Sea, she runs the risk of erecting one on the Tweed. And to keep the possibility of a “hard border” between England and Scotland at bay, she has to erect one in Ireland. Furthermore, a compromise of the sort she says she wants is radically unstable: to continue with the mechanical analogy, any slight perturbation in the future will tip the balance one way or another.
So what is to be done? If in fact there is a choice of this kind to be made, it is self-evident that it is the Union between Scotland and England which must be preserved. Indeed, if we were to believe what May says about her determination to preserve the United Kingdom, this consideration should override everything for her, including the convenience of Airbus. But I am not sure that we have to make this choice. In the North of Ireland we have actually the same situation which the SNP planned to exploit: somewhere where questions of union or disunion are currently costless. Continued common membership of the EU for Britain and the Republic of Ireland would allow future Nationalists to argue that a united Ireland would have no real costs for Unionists, other than of a sentimental kind, and they would be right. They might not quickly win a majority, but nor did the SNP in their referendum on independence; eventually the underlying facts would assert themselves. I do not see that the logic in Ireland would be any different from that in Scotland, and it is worth remembering that Sinn Fein performed exactly the same volte face as the SNP, going from their old hard-line opposition to a united Europe to their present posture of support for it — and they have seen their electoral fortunes rise in the same sort of way. But that means that the same logic applies to Ireland as to Scotland: the more we are in the EU, the more a break-up rather than continued union is likely. It would not have been the present negotiations with the EU which would have forced a break, and that seems to be all May cares about; but if she were really to care about the actual possibility of the Union dissolving, the worst thing she could do would be to go down her present path."
 Richard Tuck is Frank G. Thomson Professor of Government at Harvard University, and a Fellow of the British Academy.
Trouble in Derry, Northern Ireland on 16:37 - Jul 22 by moonie
Quite a withering put down of our wanna bee Rebel for Ireland .
How does that Buoy s Lee Rigby song go.?
As I've stated many times the Lee Rigby song was absolutely disgusting, the person involved was identified and banned from attending Celtic games fo life, his employer also sacked him and if i had my way he'd have done serious jail time!
You might think I've forgotten, but one day, when you least expect it, my time will come.
I ll pass on that as I'm behind with banjo practise .
Anyway, it's in joined up letters so not for me. I do ok though ,being incoherent, as notwithstanding that affliction,I get loads of rep,it's. On second thoughts, why would anyone reply to someone they thought incoherent,thick ,vile, racist, apart from me ,that is.
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