| The art of selling. Part 1. 12:15 - Nov 24 with 1200 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Hello there. Peugout 206. 2011.
I know I said I would never sell it but I have changed my position. My preference to be honest is not to sell my car. I may be prepared to sell it though and I have informed people of this. My wife is not very happy about selling and the kids love the 206. Do not be surprised if we have a little domestic on the drive way when you flash the cash.
It will take some time for me to persuade them to be honest. (about a year). Subject to 4 months negiocation at least.
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| The art of selling. Part 1. on 15:30 - Nov 25 with 224 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The art of selling. Part 1. on 08:59 - Nov 25 by vetchonian |
All those objectives listed which you say are missing from the Trusts mission statement why do you deem them as so important?
You really have missed the basis of all of this
The Trust was formed at a time when it appeared our football club much loved by many would dissapear run into the ground by the chancer Tony Petty. This came after a series of different ownership models which saw us always teetering on the brink of obscurity.
The consortium of local fans along with Mel Nurse led the takeover saving the club and putting it in the control of local ownership and fans who were much quoted at the time that this meant the club would never ever face this Petty type situation again......"for the fans by the fans".
As a result many believed and hoped our football club would remain in the hands of fans...OK the sellouts had the right to sell it was the manner in which it was done which hurts but four years on that is less for many especially as the club is still here and has not slid down the leagues as many feared, we are still competing toward the top of the Championship...whether we want promotion to the PL again as this was the cause of our downfall and the disruption of our previously successful model of running a football club
All those objectives result from circumstsances why should these be included in the mission statement of the Trust?
There was a huge price to pay for playing at the highest level ie the PL we were not big enough to sustain our existance due to the "costs" v income...you could say our board did not manage this properly
Lets discuss stadium expansion the stadium expansion did not happen because the previous board who you keep lauding decided not to go ahead....there are countless theories as to why lots around the choice of contractors .what good an extended stadium with no football club in existence which is the main aim of the Trust to keep a professional club alive in Swansea.
Personally im fed up with this arguement...four years on the club is still here we are still in the Championship in the hunt for promotion for the second succesive season . I do have concerns for the long term ,with us relying on loaned players, the run down of the acadamy to provide future players and the lack of clarity on our owners motivation and long term intentions. We cannot change what happened with the sale whichever way you look at it the process adopted by Huw Jenkins et al was underhand.
I am always annoyed that the board never sat with the the Trust and said "look the current model is unsustainable we either need to find more cash or we sell"
YOu keep banging on about the Trusts mission statement not dealing with making money
I ask if the managemnt of the club by those you keep lauding and defending was so great why couldnt they find ways of increasing our revenue? Our whole commercial approach during those years was a joke why wasnt a "professional" commercial manager hired rather than use a vending machine salesman?
There are opinions and arguements iin both sides....think of Mel Nurse without whom the sellouts would not have got the chance to make their millions and they profited from shares he gifted to the club which were allocated to shareholders as per a shareholders agreement which HJ said did not exist during the sale
The Trust are not blameless and got things wrong too we are all human but I fail to see how you keep "protecting" those who many saw as selling the club down the river.
Today for me there are more important things to worry about given the current state of life due to the pandemic....you keep banging on about money and that it what has killed this great game....I miss my simple Saturday afternoon as the game...I really miss those Vetch days but things move on and MOney has made killed this game ....the TV and PL monies and agents have ripped the true heart out of the elite level of the sport. When you look at the likes of Alan Curtis ,Bob Latchford, Jimmy RImmer who were "great" players at the top of the game they all ahd to find a career when they retired
Players like Gary Emmanuel who played in the old first division have to in their sixties wlak the streets in all weathers delivering mail to earn a living yet mediocre players will earn more in a week than some of these earned in a year due to the inflated wages now paid as a result of the "cash" slushing around and the greed of hangers on as owners seek to buy success to generate more profits!
For me the dmage is done the club is now in the hands of people with no emotional attachment....which sometimes can be a good thing ...any monies teh Trust may make from the legal action may never be enough to buy the club in the future but what is there to buy? We do not own the stadium yes we own the acadamy site at Landore but what is its worth? Our assets are Landore and players and the number of our "own" players is much reduced so what is the real net worth of the club?
I hope soon there is some resolution though I think this debate will last for generations
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The Trust has outlived its usefulness and and has now become a negative force.
The Us people are good owners doing a good job. The people that wanted to sell sold and those that didnt want to, can profit from inflation.
Its importance in the bad days was huge. Now it is practically irrelevant. It has made itself irrelevant by holding too many shares and too little cash. It had a strategy of making itself irrelevant. It should be an owner /investor. It cannot and will not invest in Swansea city. They are passengers. | |
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| The art of selling. Part 1. on 15:44 - Nov 25 with 213 views | Boundy |
| The art of selling. Part 1. on 15:30 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust has outlived its usefulness and and has now become a negative force.
The Us people are good owners doing a good job. The people that wanted to sell sold and those that didnt want to, can profit from inflation.
Its importance in the bad days was huge. Now it is practically irrelevant. It has made itself irrelevant by holding too many shares and too little cash. It had a strategy of making itself irrelevant. It should be an owner /investor. It cannot and will not invest in Swansea city. They are passengers. |
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| The art of selling. Part 1. on 16:59 - Nov 25 with 192 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The art of selling. Part 1. on 15:44 - Nov 25 by Boundy |
God you're boring |
Yes sorry about that Bounty. If I was like everyone else I would just do what I am told and believe everthing people tell me. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 17:21]
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| The art of selling. Part 1. on 17:03 - Nov 25 with 191 views | onehunglow |
| The art of selling. Part 1. on 16:59 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Yes sorry about that Bounty. If I was like everyone else I would just do what I am told and believe everthing people tell me. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 17:21]
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In fairness Boundy,much of the pure hate filled invective from the Trust and its acolytes is equally boring as is the unrelenting hounding of posters for their views that might go against the flow. Boring doesn't begin to describe it . We need posters like Res or we all go inane and eat ourselves.
Ive no idea who the Res is. I dont want to know either . | |
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