| Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 151169 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Discuss.
Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.
But that’s another debate.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:54 - May 18 with 566 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
Prior to this recent escalation, the Ukraine was shelling the Donbass area up to 2000 times per day.You never once mentioned that |
You seem to have a very lopsided view of events , perhaps you should open both eyes and see the truth which is a strange thing to ask you considering you have stated that you're not taking sides | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:03 - May 18 with 555 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:54 - May 18 by Boundy |
You seem to have a very lopsided view of events , perhaps you should open both eyes and see the truth which is a strange thing to ask you considering you have stated that you're not taking sides |
As you have never mentioned what the Ukraine has been doing to the ppl in the Donbass area for 8 years it isn't me who has a one sided view | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:14 - May 18 with 551 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
Prior to this recent escalation, the Ukraine was shelling the Donbass area up to 2000 times per day.You never once mentioned that |
The Donbas where Russian troops vacationed with artillery, tanks, Buk AD launchers...There is NO ARMY on this earth which lets it's troops go on leave and take their personnal weapon and/or Armed forces weapon systems
It was a military and intelligence services deployment with many of the "seperatists" outed as GRU officers. Ergo Ukraine has been resisting a limited invasion since 2014. Stop using pathetic tankie whataboutery and stop using the phrase "escalation" in this context - it's an invasion/war. |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:29 - May 18 with 547 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:03 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
As you have never mentioned what the Ukraine has been doing to the ppl in the Donbass area for 8 years it isn't me who has a one sided view |
What triggered the events in 2014 ? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:40 - May 18 with 539 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:29 - May 18 by Boundy |
What triggered the events in 2014 ? |
We have been over this, but it doesn't matter. It's been going on since then. It will stop now though | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:22 - May 18 with 524 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:40 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
We have been over this, but it doesn't matter. It's been going on since then. It will stop now though |
Why are Russia continually attacking civilian infrastructure? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:51 - May 18 with 509 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:22 - May 18 by DJack |
Why are Russia continually attacking civilian infrastructure? |
They have been targetting railways, electricity sub stations, ammo dumps and gasoline stations to prevent weapon and troop movements to the front line | | | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:27 - May 18 with 497 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:29 - May 18 by Boundy |
What triggered the events in 2014 ? |
Nazis probably. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:28 - May 18 with 496 views | controversial_jack |
I don't believe they are, however they are using a hammer to crack a nut. No different from the Ukraine shelling Donbass residential areas or the US flattening cities in Syria, Iraq and so on. Meanwhile as well as the US bombìng Somalia they are now going to send troops to the area | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:33 - May 18 with 491 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:28 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
I don't believe they are, however they are using a hammer to crack a nut. No different from the Ukraine shelling Donbass residential areas or the US flattening cities in Syria, Iraq and so on. Meanwhile as well as the US bombìng Somalia they are now going to send troops to the area |
So you dont believe the documented proofs and you still revert to whataboutery.
This is the Ukraine thread and the covert invasion of the Donbas by Russian and it's proxies was the start of this war. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:43 - May 18 with 481 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:33 - May 18 by DJack |
So you dont believe the documented proofs and you still revert to whataboutery.
This is the Ukraine thread and the covert invasion of the Donbas by Russian and it's proxies was the start of this war. |
I don't believe the mainstream media with it's anti Russian agenda. It's mostly lies and propganda. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:46 - May 18 with 479 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:33 - May 18 by DJack |
So you dont believe the documented proofs and you still revert to whataboutery.
This is the Ukraine thread and the covert invasion of the Donbas by Russian and it's proxies was the start of this war. |
Indeed, the guy’s either a WUM or a plank. The Russians also flattened big parts of Syria and they also flattened Grozny - it’s something they seem rather keen on. Untold misery for millions courtesy of Mr P. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:53 - May 18 with 475 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:43 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
I don't believe the mainstream media with it's anti Russian agenda. It's mostly lies and propganda. |
So you only believe whackjob sites then...that's, erm, nice. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:57 - May 18 with 471 views | DJack |
One item I must add, that agrees with a posting of yours...It appears that the video of Ukraine forces brutalising Russian POW's is accurate.
That said (and I DO NOT condone it), do you think that Zelenskyy will follow Putin's example and give these guys medals?! | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:01 - May 18 with 469 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:57 - May 18 by DJack |
One item I must add, that agrees with a posting of yours...It appears that the video of Ukraine forces brutalising Russian POW's is accurate.
That said (and I DO NOT condone it), do you think that Zelenskyy will follow Putin's example and give these guys medals?! |
Yes! | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:02 - May 18 with 468 views | DJack |
I meant the guys commiting the war-crimes. Just like the russians at Bucha. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:10 - May 18 with 466 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:02 - May 18 by DJack |
I meant the guys commiting the war-crimes. Just like the russians at Bucha. |
To be honest, i don't know. I do acknowledge that both sides have commited crimes, but it's only one sided if we take notice of the media. No mention that the defenders of maripol are Azov brigade and are extreme right wing scum | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:11 - May 18 with 464 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:43 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
I don't believe the mainstream media with it's anti Russian agenda. It's mostly lies and propganda. |
You don't say , so where do you get your info from | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:17 - May 18 with 459 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:10 - May 18 by controversial_jack |
To be honest, i don't know. I do acknowledge that both sides have commited crimes, but it's only one sided if we take notice of the media. No mention that the defenders of maripol are Azov brigade and are extreme right wing scum |
Again you talk rubbish and this both-siderism is either a lie or self delusion. The Ukrainian soldiers illegal deeds are not a drop in the ocean when compared to the Russians - a statistical anomaly almost.
As previously mentioned so mamy, many times the Azov battalion rooted out its Nazi's but yes its full of nationalists. Additionally a very large proportion of the defenders of Mariupol and Azovstal are Ukranian Marines, TDF and national police.
Azov's nazi's is a trope that Russia keeps pushing as justification for it's horrors in Ukraine. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:26 - May 18 with 454 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:17 - May 18 by DJack |
Again you talk rubbish and this both-siderism is either a lie or self delusion. The Ukrainian soldiers illegal deeds are not a drop in the ocean when compared to the Russians - a statistical anomaly almost.
As previously mentioned so mamy, many times the Azov battalion rooted out its Nazi's but yes its full of nationalists. Additionally a very large proportion of the defenders of Mariupol and Azovstal are Ukranian Marines, TDF and national police.
Azov's nazi's is a trope that Russia keeps pushing as justification for it's horrors in Ukraine. |
You think
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-a | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:51 - May 18 with 443 views | DJack |
Did you actually read the article?
Apart from the pig-fat video tweet (which was just days into the invasion - so it's pure stupidity is sort of "understandable") its a rehash of their earlier history and does not cover what has happened within since the National guard took control and the ejection of the former, fascist, leader.
Additionally it erroneously states "the uniform carries the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol, which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background. The group said it is merely an amalgam of the letters “N” and “I” which represent “national idea” . The second sentence IS CORRECT. The first is false as the Wolfsangel is a heraldic item that predates the Nazis - That said I think it needs binning, personally. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:53 - May 18 with 440 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:51 - May 18 by DJack |
Did you actually read the article?
Apart from the pig-fat video tweet (which was just days into the invasion - so it's pure stupidity is sort of "understandable") its a rehash of their earlier history and does not cover what has happened within since the National guard took control and the ejection of the former, fascist, leader.
Additionally it erroneously states "the uniform carries the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol, which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background. The group said it is merely an amalgam of the letters “N” and “I” which represent “national idea” . The second sentence IS CORRECT. The first is false as the Wolfsangel is a heraldic item that predates the Nazis - That said I think it needs binning, personally. |
Yeah ok then. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:58 - May 18 with 436 views | DJack |
Point out any falsehood in my statement. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:09 - May 18 with 418 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:58 - May 18 by DJack |
Point out any falsehood in my statement. |
For your benefit then, let's assume they are not NAZIs, but they are very naughty boys indeed, wigh condemnations from the UN anc accusations of attrocities in Donbass. Hopefully they will be spending some time in eastern Siberia | | | |
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