| Swansea ladies team who pays? 15:56 - Jun 24 with 3037 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The Swansea ladies team is back in Europe and will play in Europe. Bravo to them.
https://www.swanseacity.com/ne
I presume they are unpaid and the tournament will be in Europe somewhere. Accordingly this will cost perhaps for a weeks stay something in the region of £50,000 -£100,000. In the interests of exposure where does the money come from? Is it from the club or fundraising activities? Do the Trust make a contribution? Is it self sustainable?
Please do not assume I am against spending club money on this. It has to be said I have no interest in the women's game but support it remotely.
I suspect Ferencvarosi TC is from Hungary not Turkiye. Mixed up with Fenerbahce perhaps?.
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 12:58 - Jun 25 with 830 views | BillyChong |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:59 - Jun 24 by Chief |
Do any of the club's numerous shareholders contribute their personal wealth to the female team?
Is the question on nobody's lips.
But in the interests of balance, there it is. |
They are yet to contribute any of their personal wealth to the first team so it’s unlikely |  | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:02 - Jun 25 with 828 views | BillyChong |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 20:08 - Jun 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No dig at anyone here. You have invented it. I just asked if they contributed as part of their community brief. It seems they make big money as rewards for going to Europe which should cover their costs i would imagine. The only dig was by you as it happens.
Funding could be an issue if they want to turn pro and join the English league. Then there will be no Europe unless they are very good.
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I’m not sure the ladies team would come under a community brief. The Americans promised community astroturf facilities, you know how that one panned out.
I’d imagine the ladies side relies on FAW and other funding. It’s a shame they couldn’t be funded to go pro, juggling training around full time work and leave to go on the European trips can’t be easy. | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:06 - Jun 25 with 817 views | BillyChong |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 21:38 - Jun 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Top of the shop for Welsh Women players is Team GB and the Olympics, Kilkenny. You appear to promote the women's game while knocking the Swansea academy. It could be down the line, if budgets are tight, decisions have to be made to finance the academy or the women's team not n both. |
Wrong. The World Cup and Champions League are held in higher esteem than the Olympics.
Also the chance for moves to the likes of Barca. Man City have just lost one of their top players to Barca where there’s better chance of Champions League success and the possibility of playing in front of a packed out Nou Camp - 91,000 attended a game last season. | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:15 - Jun 25 with 805 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 12:58 - Jun 25 by BillyChong |
They are yet to contribute any of their personal wealth to the first team so it’s unlikely |
Martin Morgan is sponsoring the stadium for a cool £1m in the absence of any other non gambling interests. Mr Dineen has been chairman of the Ladies team presumbey for no pay.
Upto £13m was reportedly raised in the convertible loan note (CLN). The Trust notes that this conversion into shares will go ahead soon.
Mr Winter let slip last year that Silverstein and the Levien group "plus other stakeholders" had contributed. This could mean people you call the "sellouts". Perhaps you should rename the "buy ins". In this case the only owners not to contribute were the Trust who received a pay of out of £500k which will go into a bank account earning next to nothing.
I have asked why it did not go into the CLN to earn 5%. No one can answer this question or nobody really cares?
People like to spin and not get actual information The 4g pitches may have been built or be in planning. Ask the new chair of the SCST. | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:18 - Jun 25 with 793 views | Whiterockin |
Here we go again |  | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:28 - Jun 25 with 777 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:18 - Jun 25 by Whiterockin |
Here we go again |
Post inaccuracies and get a response. By the way you are welcome on the thread i started and can talk about anything you like i not not care. I believe in free speech. | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 14:59 - Jun 25 with 739 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:15 - Jun 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Martin Morgan is sponsoring the stadium for a cool £1m in the absence of any other non gambling interests. Mr Dineen has been chairman of the Ladies team presumbey for no pay.
Upto £13m was reportedly raised in the convertible loan note (CLN). The Trust notes that this conversion into shares will go ahead soon.
Mr Winter let slip last year that Silverstein and the Levien group "plus other stakeholders" had contributed. This could mean people you call the "sellouts". Perhaps you should rename the "buy ins". In this case the only owners not to contribute were the Trust who received a pay of out of £500k which will go into a bank account earning next to nothing.
I have asked why it did not go into the CLN to earn 5%. No one can answer this question or nobody really cares?
People like to spin and not get actual information The 4g pitches may have been built or be in planning. Ask the new chair of the SCST. |
****Random (and disingenuous) attempt to steer yet another thread towards the supporters trust alert****
That itch is back with a vengeance. Wouldn't buying some cream be a better use of your time? |  |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 15:33 - Jun 25 with 719 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 14:59 - Jun 25 by Chief |
****Random (and disingenuous) attempt to steer yet another thread towards the supporters trust alert****
That itch is back with a vengeance. Wouldn't buying some cream be a better use of your time? |
You asked if the wealthy owners had contributed to the Ladies team. I informed you Mr Dineen was the (probably unpaid) chairman. Plenty of free hours given for nought there. I see the Ladies team as a community benefit rather than a commercial venture and therefore could be something the Trust could sponsor perhaps. I have ideas and think about things see butt.
Your side kick then stated the 'sellouts' have not put a bean into the club. They have big time. The Trust say the new share is issue is pending and presumably the CLN converted. Good news for the club bad news for you. You do not like it. You lost the argument and have no where to go. [Post edited 25 Jun 2022 17:05]
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 17:12 - Jun 25 with 691 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 15:33 - Jun 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You asked if the wealthy owners had contributed to the Ladies team. I informed you Mr Dineen was the (probably unpaid) chairman. Plenty of free hours given for nought there. I see the Ladies team as a community benefit rather than a commercial venture and therefore could be something the Trust could sponsor perhaps. I have ideas and think about things see butt.
Your side kick then stated the 'sellouts' have not put a bean into the club. They have big time. The Trust say the new share is issue is pending and presumably the CLN converted. Good news for the club bad news for you. You do not like it. You lost the argument and have no where to go. [Post edited 25 Jun 2022 17:05]
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And you didn't answer. Dineen isn't a shareholder so that's irrelevant.
The rest again is you continuing to spout propaganda on a thread that has zero connection to the case or the trust.
As I say
****Random attempt to twist yet another thread to talk about the the trust****
Have you bought the cream yet? If you don't soon my klaxon will run out of gas | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:29 - Jun 25 with 668 views | shaggyrogers |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 17:12 - Jun 25 by Chief |
And you didn't answer. Dineen isn't a shareholder so that's irrelevant.
The rest again is you continuing to spout propaganda on a thread that has zero connection to the case or the trust.
As I say
****Random attempt to twist yet another thread to talk about the the trust****
Have you bought the cream yet? If you don't soon my klaxon will run out of gas |
Swansea Ladies is not run by Swansea city FC so Dineen not being a shareholder is irrelevant chief. It is a total separate entity to the main club. Dineen is in charge of it and i'm told puts his own money in when needed. They have done very well under his stewardship the last 5 years winning the league for the last 3. He took it on when the the club weren't really interested in it and at the time didn't support it. It is totally amateur as are all the teams in the league
There are no revenues as such other than prize money. The club apparently fund the kit and pay something towards pitch hire, refs etc etc and in return get to use the team for marketing and things.
I am told getting to the champions league is worth around £40,000 but they have to pay for their flights and hotels out of it so not much profit there. I am also told that the club now want to incorporate the ladies team into their set up which is a turn around but makes sense. | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:33 - Jun 25 with 668 views | shaggyrogers |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 17:10 - Jun 24 by builthjack |
€400,000 for qualifying. Then more the further you go. |
That is 100% incorrect | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:35 - Jun 25 with 668 views | shaggyrogers |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 05:34 - Jun 25 by 73__73 |
The problem is Keith someone has to pay for them. Hopefully they can be self efficient, but I certainly wouldn’t support them being subsidised from any funds that are directly or indirectly meant to go to the first team. |
Dineen subsidises them | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:45 - Jun 25 with 655 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:29 - Jun 25 by shaggyrogers |
Swansea Ladies is not run by Swansea city FC so Dineen not being a shareholder is irrelevant chief. It is a total separate entity to the main club. Dineen is in charge of it and i'm told puts his own money in when needed. They have done very well under his stewardship the last 5 years winning the league for the last 3. He took it on when the the club weren't really interested in it and at the time didn't support it. It is totally amateur as are all the teams in the league
There are no revenues as such other than prize money. The club apparently fund the kit and pay something towards pitch hire, refs etc etc and in return get to use the team for marketing and things.
I am told getting to the champions league is worth around £40,000 but they have to pay for their flights and hotels out of it so not much profit there. I am also told that the club now want to incorporate the ladies team into their set up which is a turn around but makes sense. |
It is irrelevant to the conversation I was having in which I specifically asked if any shareholders put their money into the women's team.
As a full sellout, Dineen is not a shareholder and is irrelevant to the question I posed.
But your input here has been invaluable shag. | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 22:39 - Jun 25 with 621 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 18:29 - Jun 25 by shaggyrogers |
Swansea Ladies is not run by Swansea city FC so Dineen not being a shareholder is irrelevant chief. It is a total separate entity to the main club. Dineen is in charge of it and i'm told puts his own money in when needed. They have done very well under his stewardship the last 5 years winning the league for the last 3. He took it on when the the club weren't really interested in it and at the time didn't support it. It is totally amateur as are all the teams in the league
There are no revenues as such other than prize money. The club apparently fund the kit and pay something towards pitch hire, refs etc etc and in return get to use the team for marketing and things.
I am told getting to the champions league is worth around £40,000 but they have to pay for their flights and hotels out of it so not much profit there. I am also told that the club now want to incorporate the ladies team into their set up which is a turn around but makes sense. |
Good input for Shaggy which answered my question. All the issues are now open and transparent for the readership of this great forum. | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 23:12 - Jun 25 with 610 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 22:39 - Jun 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Good input for Shaggy which answered my question. All the issues are now open and transparent for the readership of this great forum. |
Indeed.
Cynics may suggest a sense of guilt or most probably vanity to explain his involvement..... | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:28 - Jun 26 with 563 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 23:12 - Jun 25 by Chief |
Indeed.
Cynics may suggest a sense of guilt or most probably vanity to explain his involvement..... |
You ARE a cynic and Do suggest Guilt and vanity the reasons for the Chairman of the ladies team to contribute. Perhaps the Trust should have such guilt and vanity and at least match fund. You are a member suggest it to the new board. Shaggy suggests this is a community not commercial operation and right up the Trusts street you would think.
£500,000 incoming. Swansea ladies team could do with some facilities. | |
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:36 - Jun 26 with 557 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:28 - Jun 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You ARE a cynic and Do suggest Guilt and vanity the reasons for the Chairman of the ladies team to contribute. Perhaps the Trust should have such guilt and vanity and at least match fund. You are a member suggest it to the new board. Shaggy suggests this is a community not commercial operation and right up the Trusts street you would think.
£500,000 incoming. Swansea ladies team could do with some facilities. |
What of course you fail to recognise is that Dineen et al colluded to prevent the trust from gaining funds when the opportunity arose with which maybe they could have provided contributions to the ladies team.
And don't bother trying to dispute that. Dineen and the other sellouts settled out of court admitting guilt on that front.
If Dineen wants to fund the women's team using his I'll gotten gains that's up to him, but i repeat, the cynics would say it's either guilt or vanity that's brought him to this point. [Post edited 26 Jun 2022 13:46]
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 14:30 - Jun 26 with 537 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:36 - Jun 26 by Chief |
What of course you fail to recognise is that Dineen et al colluded to prevent the trust from gaining funds when the opportunity arose with which maybe they could have provided contributions to the ladies team.
And don't bother trying to dispute that. Dineen and the other sellouts settled out of court admitting guilt on that front.
If Dineen wants to fund the women's team using his I'll gotten gains that's up to him, but i repeat, the cynics would say it's either guilt or vanity that's brought him to this point. [Post edited 26 Jun 2022 13:46]
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Guilt does not come into it in my view. 'Taffies/Limeys' got their knickers in a twist for 6 years and could not sort out a legal mess. With a 6 year time limit looming a smooth networking Yankee came over on his holidays and got it sorted in between playing with his kids on Caswell Bay. A little fig leaf inducement of £500k was made to smooth over the deal and restore equilibrium and give peace in our time.
Well done to him i say Onward and upwards and leave the cynics to stew. Moaners moan and doers do. There are plenty of moaners on here. You are one actually.
The new share issue is pending according to the Trust and the £13m INVESTMENT confirmed. This time I do not expect kicking the can down the road for years on end. Doers are now in charge.
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| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 16:11 - Jun 26 with 513 views | shaggyrogers |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 13:36 - Jun 26 by Chief |
What of course you fail to recognise is that Dineen et al colluded to prevent the trust from gaining funds when the opportunity arose with which maybe they could have provided contributions to the ladies team.
And don't bother trying to dispute that. Dineen and the other sellouts settled out of court admitting guilt on that front.
If Dineen wants to fund the women's team using his I'll gotten gains that's up to him, but i repeat, the cynics would say it's either guilt or vanity that's brought him to this point. [Post edited 26 Jun 2022 13:46]
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Chief. Dineen was involved in the ladies team well before any share sale so i doubt guilt is involved. It may be vanity who knows or it might just be a case of believing the Ladies should have the opportunity to play at the highest level . The person i spoke to about the ladies says he is very supportive, attends every match and is highly thought of by the girls and their families. Didn't he stay on as chair of the community trust as well after the sale so it doesn't seem a vanity thing | | | |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 16:15 - Jun 26 with 511 views | Chief |
| Swansea ladies team who pays? on 14:30 - Jun 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Guilt does not come into it in my view. 'Taffies/Limeys' got their knickers in a twist for 6 years and could not sort out a legal mess. With a 6 year time limit looming a smooth networking Yankee came over on his holidays and got it sorted in between playing with his kids on Caswell Bay. A little fig leaf inducement of £500k was made to smooth over the deal and restore equilibrium and give peace in our time.
Well done to him i say Onward and upwards and leave the cynics to stew. Moaners moan and doers do. There are plenty of moaners on here. You are one actually.
The new share issue is pending according to the Trust and the £13m INVESTMENT confirmed. This time I do not expect kicking the can down the road for years on end. Doers are now in charge.
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Well a broken clock is right twice a day and now here's your time.
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You're right, guilt probably doesn't come into it. Judging by their conduct during the sellout and since they do seem too arrogant to experience a sense of guilt.
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